Star Wars: Rebels

[JEDI]

stormtroopers are expert shots except at the stars of the movie.

what is this called?
star wars effect?

 

[Sonikku]

Plot Armor?

 

[Sonikku]

B-Wing! (The "B" stands for Bitchin')

Though I don't remember the B-Wing being able to do that in X-Wing...

I think they made the B Wing massively overpowered. A snub fighter that can one shot an Imperial capital ship? Why even bother with X-Wings (or calamari capital ships for that matter)? Should just make tons and tons of B Wings and lay waste to fleets of Star Destroyers.

 

[ViRGE]

I think they made the B Wing massively overpowered. A snub fighter that can one shot an Imperial capital ship? Why even bother with X-Wings (or calamari capital ships for that matter)? Should just make tons and tons of B Wings and lay waste to fleets of Star Destroyers.

Well to be fair they were just light cruisers, a not even large enough for an internal fighter bay and just a fraction of the power of a Star Destroyer. But you're right, a B-Wing with a death laser seems a bit much.

 

[JEDI]

yeah, where was this b-wing in Episode IV?

and more plot armor... shields only work for main stars.

and if a main star is attacking a bigger ship, that ship not only acts if it has no shields, their hull armor is made of fragile glass. but that's the same problem in CLone Wars

 

[desura]

I'm talking more about the lightsaber fights with the inquisitor in the first season. I think it was weird how they made the clones into the good guys in the clone wars series. as written in the movies they were clearly the bad guys.

 

[Slew Foot]

I'm talking more about the lightsaber fights with the inquisitor in the first season. I think it was weird how they made the clones into the good guys in the clone wars series. as written in the movies they were clearly the bad guys.

they were good guys up until the end of episode 3 and order 66. the clone wars cartoon was between 2 and 3, while rebels is right before 4, after most clones have been decommissioned.

 

[Sonikku]

Well to be fair they were just light cruisers, a not even large enough for an internal fighter bay and just a fraction of the power of a Star Destroyer. But you're right, a B-Wing with a death laser seems a bit much.

I mean, in Rogue Leader an X-Wing can cripple a capital ship, but it's only through skillful flying and exploiting its weak spots one by one, while simultaneously evading tie fighter fire. That's much more plausible. It's how the Rebels win, through analyzing their target and hitting them where they are weak. Giving them a mega deathray that allows them to basically just obliterate the Imperials in a head on fight just doesn't work at all.

Rebels shouldn't be able to beat Imperials fighting them like the Imperials fight Rebels. They're (supposed to be) outmatched in resources and fire power. They should be playing it smarter and turning the tables through more clever and ingenuitive ways, considering out of the box options hard nosed by the book Imperials would never consider.

 

[Charmonium]

they were good guys up until the end of episode 3 and order 66. the clone wars cartoon was between 2 and 3, while rebels is right before 4, after most clones have been decommissioned.

So who are the storm troopers in 4,5and 6?

 

[Slew Foot]

So who are the storm troopers in 4,5and 6?

just regular human recruits trained in military facilities. i suppose its different than what someone whose just seen episodes 2-6 would thnk, but in Rebels they note that the clone troopers were decomissioned and their are stormtrooper academies with human recruits.

 

[Charmonium]

OK, thanks. I've seen all the Clone Wars episodes so I figured all storm troopers were clones.

 

[desura]

That doesn't really make sense. The storm troopers are clones. The original clones...

I guess it's a retcon. This show just feels so weird. note that most younger kids I talk to about Star Wars like the prequels more than the orignals now. That would mean that this is a cartoon based on 30 year old movies. Also, the original clone wars felt like cheesy wartime propoganda which was interesting. George was also heavily involved in the clone wars and I many people unfairly denigrate his creative contributions.

 

[Charmonium]

That doesn't really make sense. The storm troopers are clones. The original clones...

I guess it's a retcon. This show just feels so weird. note that most younger kids I talk to about Star Wars like the prequels more than the orignals now. That would mean that this is a cartoon based on 30 year old movies. Also, the original clone wars felt like cheesy wartime propoganda which was interesting. George was also heavily involved in the clone wars and I many people unfairly denigrate his creative contributions.

Well, there was at least one time when they jumped the shark. It was a series of episodes where Anakin and his cohorts went to some spot in the universe where the force either originated or was strongest - something like that. Those episodes were really bizarre and didn't seem to add anything to the story - aside from the fact that I thought they were pretty stupid.

 

[Sonikku]

Well, there was at least one time when they jumped the shark. It was a series of episodes where Anakin and his cohorts went to some spot in the universe where the force either originated or was strongest - something like that. Those episodes were really bizarre and didn't seem to add anything to the story - aside from the fact that I thought they were pretty stupid.

Darth Revan (and Bane) were going to be in those episodes, but they cut them at the last minute. :'( "Ghosts of ???" something I think the episodes were called.

 

[desura]

Well, there was at least one time when they jumped the shark. It was a series of episodes where Anakin and his cohorts went to some spot in the universe where the force either originated or was strongest - something like that. Those episodes were really bizarre and didn't seem to add anything to the story - aside from the fact that I thought they were pretty stupid.

Those were my favorite episodes by far.

 

[Sonikku]

Those were my favorite episodes by far.

"Ghosts of Mortis" that was the name. That was the one where Anakin sees a peak into the future.

 

[Charmonium]

Those were my favorite episodes by far.

They were interesting for sure. I just thought that they didn't make a lot of sense. It was essentially an origin story for the force - well, IIRC that is. And I didn't see the point of that. The force is something that just exists, like the Higgs field or the color force. There's no need to try to explain it. And if you are going to come up with some sort of story for it, I thought they could have done a lot better. I guess what really bothered me was the personification of the different sides. It felt too much like classical mythology.

 

[desura]

They were interesting for sure. I just thought that they didn't make a lot of sense. It was essentially an origin story for the force - well, IIRC that is. And I didn't see the point of that. The force is something that just exists, like the Higgs field or the color force. There's no need to try to explain it. And if you are going to come up with some sort of story for it, I thought they could have done a lot better. I guess what really bothered me was the personification of the different sides. It felt too much like classical mythology.

It was certainly more interesting than the mitochlorians.

If you look at the Star Wars universe, heck, fantasy universes in general, even the good guys are undemocratic autocracies generally. So these force origin stories kind of get to the bottom of the conflicts, which are basically religious sectarian conflicts based on fundamental rifts.

 

[ViRGE]

"Ghosts of Mortis" that was the name. That was the one where Anakin sees a peak into the future.

Those were fun episodes. They were a very interesting metaphorical/spiritual look into the Star Wars universe. The last arc of the show, with Yoda learning to become a Force Ghost after death, was similarly interesting.

 

[Slew Foot]

I think they made the B Wing massively overpowered. A snub fighter that can one shot an Imperial capital ship? Why even bother with X-Wings (or calamari capital ships for that matter)? Should just make tons and tons of B Wings and lay waste to fleets of Star Destroyers.

It just seems out of place. I mean, this is supposed to be 4 years prior to episode 4, how come the rebellion isnt churning out hordes of these things and laying waster to the empire?

 

[Sonikku]

Yeah. It just seems out of place letting Rebels roflstomp Imperials on sheer mindless firepower. To think this is canon. The consolation is this was the B Wing's "Debut" so it had to look badass. Going forward, its super deathray probably isn't going to turn into another Wave Motion Cannon that just saves the day for the good guys every single battle each and every week.

 

[ViRGE]

Going forward, its super deathray probably isn't going to turn into another Wave Motion Cannon that just saves the day for the good guys every single battle each and every week.

Wave Motion Gun. Get it right, nerds. (That would be like calling the Lightsaber the Lightsword)

 

[lupi]

Saw a nice collector edition BR set for sale only to then look at the details and see it lacks the key 6th season. (for clone wars that is) left it on the shelf for now.

 

[ViRGE]

All hail the Gonk Droid!

 

[Sonikku]

The animation seems very cut rate. The imperial officers look as identical to each other as stormtroopers do. :\