What I'm getting at is, if the average worker at a steel mill gets a 3% wage every year, that doesn't magically become a 7% wage because inflation went up 4% that year. It stays at 3% and the steel worker is working for 1% cheaper or whatever.
Sure some competitor may have to pay 4% more to get new hires, or maybe not because maybe that particular industry has wage stagnation going on and instead their 4% got sucked into some bullshit stat on MBAs at startups vampiring govt subsidies and getting massive payouts instead.
That's the trouble with statistics, they can lie like a motherfucker if you summarize them.
Ah here's the part where everything is Manchin's fault
Yeah I know, I've considered it. It's a depressing thought because I actually like my job, and I'm lucky enough to be remote which is necessary for my current life arrangement, and it may be difficult to replicate. It's not off the table, it's just fucking stupid to be forced to consider it imho.
It is sort of fun to see them (yet again) trying to decide if Biden is a demented old grandpa or if he’s this raging, maniacal dictator.Lots of ad libs in the speech from feeble sleepy Joe who can’t remember his name.
Pretty amazing. Did you see him make Miss Lindsay laugh?
Struggling with separating your line of thinking from Republican mantra of paying the rich (CEOs) more. For them to siphon more. To... trickle down.So to be clear you think it would be better if we were all poorer but more equal?
Lots of ad libs in the speech from feeble sleepy Joe who can’t remember his name.
Pretty amazing. Did you see him make Miss Lindsay laugh?
Yeah I know, I've considered it. It's a depressing thought because I actually like my job, and I'm lucky enough to be remote which is necessary for my current life arrangement, and it may be difficult to replicate. It's not off the table, it's just fucking stupid to be forced to consider it imho.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm anti-capitalist, probably more than most. But I've got more than my own life to consider so I can't go all Rorschach without living a double life.And here I thought you were anti-capitalist for a minute. Turns out you are just a sensible human being about the world around you.
To me the sum total of human prosperity is the point. If ‘trickle down’ economics actually worked by providing superior outcomes for everyone I would support it. The problem is it doesn’t.Struggling with separating your line of thinking from Republican mantra of paying the rich (CEOs) more. For them to siphon more. To... trickle down.
It DOES matter how much wealth the workers have.
And from any objective measure I know, workers have FAR LESS wealth today than in the two decades following WW2.
And it has kept getting worse decade by decade since the 70s.
You must be using some other metric that you do not explain.
But it is not one that is keeping food on the table and roofs over heads. For my entire life the American people have been losing that.
Struggling with separating your line of thinking from Republican mantra of paying the rich (CEOs) more. For them to siphon more. To... trickle down.
It DOES matter how much wealth the workers have.
And from any objective measure I know, workers have FAR LESS wealth today than in the two decades following WW2.
And it has kept getting worse decade by decade since the 70s.
You must be using some other metric that you do not explain.
But it is not one that is keeping food on the table and roofs over heads. For my entire life the American people have been losing that.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm anti-capitalist, probably more than most. But I've got more than my own life to consider so I can't go all Rorschach without living a double life.
He’s talking about all wages not hourly pay.
Not necessarily, some places just keep a job opening available for some low-wage shitheel until it's eventually filled by someone wholly unqualified for the position. Maybe the service quality goes down, maybe more people leave, maybe someone notices and kicks off a 6mo review process, maybe changes are made where some services get shunted to a different service provider at a rate of .7 FTE's, lower quality of service gets normalized over a few years, service degrades further, until you settle at the bottom of a morass of terrible quality until some event takes place (someone takes command that gives a shit, a cryptolock happens, uni requires an insurance policy that dictates higher requirements) and THEN, after a decade, more funds are discovered as available for employee compensation.It is but people like you are why it continues to happen. If companies no longer had a core set of reliable and loyal employee base they’d have to compete and wages would have to go up. Hell, the whole reason wages have been increasing the last few years is because there are less workers, which means more competition to attract the available workers.
Not necessarily, some places just keep a job opening available for some low-wage shitheel until it's eventually filled by someone wholly unqualified for the position. Maybe the service quality goes down, maybe more people leave, maybe someone notices and kicks off a 6mo review process, maybe changes are made where some services get shunted to a different service provider at a rate of .7 FTE's, lower quality of service gets normalized over a few years, service degrades further, until you settle at the bottom of a morass of terrible quality until some event takes place (someone takes command that gives a shit, a cryptolock happens, uni requires an insurance policy that dictates higher requirements) and THEN, after a decade, more funds are discovered as available for employee compensation.
Well, you're in Texas. Asshole "leaders," incredibly anti-female restrictive reproductive legislation. Hypocritical authoritarian and cowardly law enforcement. Getting you down?Not mine. People who think we have a good economy like the Democrats are preaching are out of touch with being working class in America and the GOP has successfully conned Americans into believing that they're the more trustworthy of the two shit parties economically. I think Biden's going down.
I mean you live in Texas, no surprise that your republican run economy sucks. I’m far better off in my democratic utopia than four years ago.
But the data disagrees with you. You can say it isn't enough or as much as you want. But real wages are up. Yes, not for everyone, but in aggregate.Who said you have to think we live in a Utopia to be able to recognize that capitalism has run amuck, that economic benefits have not kept up to the costs of living OR EVEN CLOSe,
Yes, and if you ask someone if they think Joe Biden is too old to be president, what do you think they are going to say? It doesn't matter a rat's ass what they say. What matters is who they vote for.My grocery bill largely remains the same as it has been in the past - a few things are slightly more expensive, but their prices have stabilized, and I really haven't noticed a big change in spending. But in this awesome economy, I went out and got myself a new job paying 25%+ more (and avoided some layoffs at my old place to boot); and my investments are doing fantastically. This Biden economy is awesome.
Some people just want to live in miserable vibe-land. It's all vibes based on what their friends and social media are feeding to them.
So just to make it clear, you can't point to any time the economy was better than today, but you are still going to bitch about it.You can ask a million times if you want and I'll tell you to fuck off while you keep pretending housing isn't a nightmare for working class people right now.
You're deluded. The pandemic was the basic reason for the inflation spike we've been coming down from.Go fuck yourself. Inflation isn't from COVID, it's from corporate profiteering from how little competition there is thanks to all the mergers and buyouts that are allowed to take place. It's the kind of planned economy they used to warn us about in school with the socialist boogeyman but caused by capitalism.
If I knew I could be secure in my remote job I'd probably move the fuck out to rural Montana or somewhere along the 395 in Cali, but with urban housing prices what they are these days moving somewhere desirable feels pretty unattainable unless I moved to an even worse shithole like Phoenix. Though I have family here and like going to Spurs games too (Wemby's a monster).Well, you're in Texas. Asshole "leaders," incredibly anti-female restrictive reproductive legislation. Hypocritical authoritarian and cowardly law enforcement. Getting you down?
Holy shit, I bought them for $5.50/18oz this weekend (I go through 3 18oz packs a week by myself, I basically never pay more than $6 for them). Maybe you need to find a new grocery store. Price inflation is easy when consumers don't adjust their spending habits in response to price gouging.Know what fun thing happens when we're poorer but more equal? You can buy blueberries for less than $7/6oz from fucking Tops, because if you charge that much nobody will ever buy it.
Nonsense. It's largely corporate profits increasing while having the media push BS about supply chains nonstop to manufacture consent for the increased prices.You're deluded. The pandemic was the basic reason for the inflation spike we've been coming down from.