You forgot the bitches tbhGreenbacks to yens exchange rate is great, you will live large. Also, they have a ton of unwanted rural houses that are nearly free but come with lots of strings attached.
lol, sure boss. I am not angry just exhausted with the illogical nonsense being spewed. Not sure why trumpies can be “angry” but us normals have to be polite and not push back. Stop spouting lies and nonsense and I won’t have need to be exasperated. Seven years of this crap is done.Much like Mr. Squished, you need to recalibrate your rage-o-meter.
We need to control for those advancements because we'd have those advancements even if we were all technically slaves. Both sides of this argument have merits. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Once you add healthcare costs into the mix, the scales tip dramatically into the dystopian nightmare area for a LOT of people. A LOT of people who vote, and vote irrationally.Why would you control for quality advancements when the question is if people are better off today than in the past? Having access to the entirety of the world's information is nice! Imagine saying 'living today is better than living in the Middle Ages' and have someone say once you controlled for technological improvement it wasn't. It either is or it isn't.
Regardless, even if you try to stick to common things like cars, houses, etc. our houses are way bigger now than they were back then, we have more cars per household and they don't constantly break, etc., etc.
Go back to the 40s and early 50s and it wasn't much higher, and again, once you add healthcare things are much, much worse:I did not say average income I said 'average American', meaning the regular joe walking down the street.
Regardless, real median household income today is much higher than it was when the Boomers were growing up.
That's fine. So to be clear you would like to go back to when the economy was 'better', which is apparently pre-Reagan, meaning you're yearning for around a 25% drop in real median household income, which would be a national catastrophe. No thanks!No, liberals here are arguing this economy is great. Leftists are saying it's terrible and has been a mess since Reagan.
Save the rage for people actually impeding progress instead of unleashing it on every person who doesn't quite see things exactly the way you see it.lol, sure boss. I am not angry just exhausted with the illogical nonsense being spewed. Not sure why trumpies can be “angry” but us normals have to be polite and not push back. Stop spouting lies and nonsense and I won’t have need to be exasperated. Seven years of this crap is done.
Of course it isn’t rainbows but you made my point. Pre Covid levels. Did everyone think a world wide pandemic with subsequent economic disruptions would not have consequences? The question people should be asking is if Trump’s 70% tariffs on China and putting 10 million people in camps is really the answer or continue using to recovery as it is.If this is true (and I don't doubt it), then it goes far to explain a lot of the economic anxiety out there. Not everyone is an upper-middle class or millionaire ATOTer.
Just because the U.S. macroeconomy is doing great relative to G20 doesn't mean it's all rainbows and unicorns here.
Greenbacks to yens exchange rate is great, you will live large. Also, they have a ton of unwanted rural houses that are nearly free but come with lots of strings attached.
I don't think we would have those advancements regardless of our policy choices at all.We need to control for those advancements because we'd have those advancements even if we were all technically slaves. Both sides of this argument have merits. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Once you add healthcare costs into the mix, the scales tip dramatically into the dystopian nightmare area for a LOT of people. A LOT of people who vote, and vote irrationally.
Nobody is more excited to complain about housing prices than me but when looking at quality of life you have to take everything into account.Go back to the 40s and early 50s and it wasn't much higher, and again, once you add healthcare things are much, much worse:
Home Price to Income Ratio - Updated Chart | Longtermtrends
Historically, an average house in the US cost around 5 times the yearly household income. The ratio in this chart divides the Case-Shiller Home Price Index by the US median annual household income.www.longtermtrends.net
How about you take your fatherly condescension and show it up your ass. Put me on ignore hoss. I wasn’t speaking to you clown.Save the rage for people actually impeding progress instead of unleashing it on every person who doesn't quite see things exactly the way you see it.
What's sort of funny about this is the upper middle class hasn't seen a ton of benefit from the COVID recovery - the people who have benefitted by far the most are at the low end. Tech workers have taken a beating while Wendy's workers have seen large wage increases.Of course it isn’t rainbows but you made my point. Pre Covid levels. Did everyone think a world wide pandemic with subsequent economic disruptions would not have consequences? The question people should be asking is if Trump’s 70% tariffs on China and putting 10 million people in camps is really the answer or continue using to recovery as it is.
Now now, you need to be polite and make sure to accept the lies and ignorance of posters so dank69 can approve of your toneI don't think we would have those advancements regardless of our policy choices at all.
My only point is if you think the current US is a dystopian nightmare of poverty then you would find the 1950's far, far worse. Why? Because standards of living were far worse then!
Nobody is more excited to complain about housing prices than me but when looking at quality of life you have to take everything into account.
Things in America are far from perfect but the idea that the average American was better off when the Boomers were growing up is just not true. Not remotely true.
I'm selective there, but their produce tends to be a very good deal, especially berries. Their raw meat is the same or more as my local grocery and I prefer the local's cutting.My neighbor swears by costco but I've noticed when you compare most stuff.. it's like $10 more on average than Walmart.
And Walmart isn't always the cheapest either. Stop & Shop has some nice bargains if you use the coupons. Keyfood/ Food Universe too if you browse circulars.
I honestly can't understand why people would pay the yearly shopping fee with Costco when it isn't that cheap anymore!
Am I missing something?
Is this the "not rage" you were talking about? Just exhaustion you say? lulz.How about you take your fatherly condescension and show it up your ass. Put me on ignore hoss. I wasn’t speaking to you clown.
It is now everyone’s job to ask every Republican leader if they support IVF, then sit back and watch the the shit show.Fox is really trying to sell that the rebuttal was amazing and she tore apart Biden's SOTU, is so pathetic you just have to laugh at it. This is an actual headline from them:
'BLESS YOUR HEART': Rising Republican star Katie Britt shreds Biden on border, rising costs in SOTU rebuttal
Quality of life and cost of living are two completely different metrics.I don't think we would have those advancements regardless of our policy choices at all.
My only point is if you think the current US is a dystopian nightmare of poverty then you would find the 1950's far, far worse. Why? Because standards of living were far worse then!
Nobody is more excited to complain about housing prices than me but when looking at quality of life you have to take everything into account.
Things in America are far from perfect but the idea that the average American was better off when the Boomers were growing up is just not true. Not remotely true.
Nope, not rage. Just pushing back against the obvious bullshit. Not sure who made you the tone police but how about you put me on ignore so I don’t offend your sensitivities, lulzIs this the "not rage" you were talking about? Just exhaustion you say? lulz.
I am sure there was no correlation between them with women and minorities. Of course not. Also, please remind me what the tax rates were in the 1950s as compared to today?Quality of life and cost of living are two completely different metrics.
Counteroffer:Nope, not rage. Just pushing back against the obvious bullshit. Not sure who made you the tone police but how about you put me on ignore so I don’t offend your sensitivitie, lulz
Shifting goal posts from the economy to civil rights isn't the winning argument you think it is.I am sure there was no correlation between them with women and minorities. Of course not. Also, please remind me what the tax rates were in the 1950s as compared to today?
Oh yeah Wendy's workers are doing amazing in a nation where half of renters are having to spend more than 30% of their income to not be homeless.What's sort of funny about this is the upper middle class hasn't seen a ton of benefit from the COVID recovery - the people who have benefitted by far the most are at the low end. Tech workers have taken a beating while Wendy's workers have seen large wage increases.
lol. Oooooo. Scary tough internet boy here. 😂😂Counteroffer:
How about you eat a bag of dicks?
Sure thing oh great genius. Notice you didn’t answer the effective tax rates in the 50s versus today nor about the inflation adjusted worker wage stagnation that began in the 70s.i said correlation not causation. It appears you don’t know the difference. I also didn’t say white people either. I said minorities and women. You ignoring whole swathes of American population with COL is hilarious.Shifting goal posts from the economy to civil rights isn't the winning argument you think it is.
No, you have the wrong discussion there.Tell me, how is....
This from the guy who posted this:lol. Oooooo. Scary tough internet boy here. 😂😂
How about you take your fatherly condescension and show it up your ass. Put me on ignore hoss. I wasn’t speaking to you clown.
You're like a lost little chihuahua yapping here. We're discussing COL. Nobody is arguing about the causes. We're all in agreement for the most part on the causes. Maybe let the adults talk for a bit?Sure thing oh great genius. Notice you didn’t answer the effective tax rates in the 50s versus today nor about the inflation adjusted worker wage stagnation that began in the 70s.i said correlation not causation. It appears you don’t know the difference. I also didn’t say white people either. I said minorities and women. You ignoring whole swathes of American population with COL is hilarious.
I mean what possibly changed to cause worker wages to stagnate against inflation. Looks at effective tax rates from 50s to today. I wonder 🙄