I'm just quoting the article. It literally used the phrase 'economic impact payments' when referencing the increased wages. What was that referring to if not the stimmy payments?
I'm just quoting the article. It literally used the phrase 'economic impact payments' when referencing the increased wages. What was that referring to if not the stimmy payments?The passage you quoted basically said that wage increases were a knock-on effect of good economic policy during the pandemic. Now I'm not saying this didn't happen, but I pointed out that entry level wage gains have been going on for nearly a decade. If you exclude 2020-2021, the U.S. economy has been near "full employment" for some time now. Naturally, that means wage gains for workers, esp. those who were chronically underpaid.
What that passage did not say was that stimmy payments were directly included in wage data, which is what you're implying.
Does that not take into account cost of living expenses? I thought it did.
(to me) It’s funny (not in a ha-ha sense) that just a few years ago, Trump wanted to ban Tik-tok…or force it’s sale…and was shut down by the courts, but now that one of his supporters owns a piece…Biden banning it would be a disaster and would DOUBLE the size of Facebook/Meta…which is an “enemy of the people.”
It appears you missed my meaning. Inflation is not the totality of rising costs.I think at this point the evidence is so overwhelming I'm not even sure why people are arguing it. What more would it take to convince people?
I see as per usual you ignore reality and insert your own. Did you forget about avian flu wiping out chickens in last few years and now has returned or did that not fit your egg/inflation narrative? At least learn basic facts before substituting your own alt-facts. Egg prices are not just susceptible to inflation but that pesky avian flu 🙄Dude was being a bootlick like egg producers weren't seeing profits blow up from their record prices
So is your alternate fact that egg producers didn't see their profits soar from their price gouging? Was it an alternative fact when the head of Federal Reserve in KC said 60% of inflation was from increased corporate profits?I see as per usual you ignore reality and insert your own. Did you forget about avian flu wiping out chickens in last few years and now has returned or did that not fit your egg/inflation narrative? At least learn basic facts before substituting your own alt-facts. Egg prices are not just susceptible to inflation but that pesky avian flu 🙄
Avian flu and egg prices
This thread is going to be bittersweet to bump in November if the nazi wins, which looks somewhat more likely than not right now based on where the polls stand and how unpopular Biden is. Biden's gotta be up around 4 points in these national polls to be somewhat comfortable with overcoming how much the electoral college fucks the non slave states over in presidential voting. Really hope he runs on killing the ACA or some other ridiculous right wing idea to sabotage his campaign just like Romney 2012 running on hey I'm going to steal your Medicare.Let's just tell the entire middle class and below this is the best economy, dismiss their concerns, Biden is the greatest president in decades, dismiss any concerns they have about him or things that don't inspire them or keep them disillusioned in our system, spurred on by biased media coverage and Democrats who can't message well, and get on with losing the election.
Apparently if you don't do that you just want to be negative and are practically a Trump supporter.
This thread is going to be bittersweet to bump in November if the nazi wins, which looks somewhat more likely than not right now based on where the polls stand and how unpopular Biden is. Biden's gotta be up around 4 points in these national polls to be somewhat comfortable with overcoming how much the electoral college fucks the non slave states over in presidential voting. Really hope he runs on killing the ACA or some other ridiculous right wing idea to sabotage his campaign just like Romney 2012 running on hey I'm going to steal your Medicare.
It's not about dismissing concerns. They shouldn't do that. But we shouldn't frame everything from a negative. Why vote again for the Democrats if the voter viewpoint is "everything still sucks, I have nostalgia goggles on, and Democrats have been in charge for 4 years."Let's just tell the entire middle class and below this is the best economy, dismiss their concerns, Biden is the greatest president in decades, dismiss any concerns they have about him or things that don't inspire them or keep them disillusioned in our system, spurred on by biased media coverage and Democrats who can't message well, and get on with losing the election.
Apparently if you don't do that you just want to be negative and are practically a Trump supporter.
It is mind boggling. If Trump had record stock market this point it would America has greatest economy in world over and over. The democrats need to stop making perfect the enemy of good. It is ridiculous. Way better now than under the orange stain. Own it with message more work left to do but at least we can produce positive jobs unlike the orange stainIt's not about dismissing concerns. They shouldn't do that. But we shouldn't frame everything from a negative. Why vote again for the Democrats if the voter viewpoint is "everything still sucks, I have nostalgia goggles on, and Democrats have been in charge for 4 years."
But for people On Here, who have access to information and are allegedly informed, I think it's okay to point out when people are being stupid.
For example, here's a group of people who are a left-issue organization that can't take a win and don't know who to really blame when it comes to student debt:It is mind boggling. If Trump had record stock market this point it would America has greatest economy in world over and over. The democrats need to stop making perfect the enemy of good. It is ridiculous. Way better now than under the orange stain. Own it with message more work left to do but at least we can produce positive jobs unlike the orange stain
What was the feeling like on this board in 2016? I remember media like NY Times and MSNBC acting like the election was in the bag for Clinton because Trump would have to win every one of like 8 or 9 states and these shitheads in the media who don't understand probability were acting like Trump had to win 8 or 9 independent coin flips in a row when it was much closer to being something like he had to win a coin flip in Florida and a coin flip for the rust belt. As a Democrat you gotta really dominate the popular vote to eek out an electoral victory thanks to how many small conservative states there are leading to ridiculously outsized influence in the senate and electoral college.I'm feeling more positive than you, I think Biden has a solid chance right now, as in more likely to win. But if Dems go with the messaging style that some of the apparently elitist Dems we have here seem to prefer, that will definitely diminish our odds.
Apparently their book calls for "a militant debtors movement", the militant aren't known for taking soft stances, you know?For example, here's a group of people who are a left-issue organization that can't take a win and don't know who to really blame when it comes to student debt:
Those "tweaks" have resulted in people actually being able to get their debt relief they were entitled to under a law signed by the second Bush and that the Trump administration was unnecessarily holding up for reasons, and allowing people to have much lower monthly payments, and all sorts of other rules that benefit people that took out debt. Never mind the actual steps the Biden administration has taken and is taking to forgive more.
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Also the ridiculous idea that somehow, if they had done it really fast, it couldn't have been blocked. What a truly preposterous idea - totally unserious group of people.
No, militant people are not known for their stance of any sort of moderation. However, this stuff gets passed around all over the web without much comment. People don't exactly click on the profiles and do some deep reading into every person or organization they see on social media; it just becomes another information stream that feeds into the vibes people feel about the world around them.Apparently their book calls for "a militant debtors movement", the militant aren't known for taking soft stances, you know?
My real hope is everyone knows who Trump is this time around unlike 2016. I remember taking my mom to her doctor right after the 2016 election and he seemed to have talked himself into thinking Trump wouldn't try to take a wrecking ball to the ACA because he was just talking shit and acting like an ass to drum up support from his nazi base. When I told him Trump's mentor was Roy Cohn it's like all the color left his face and he first realized no that's who Trump actually is and that's how he's going to govern.I'm feeling more positive than you, I think Biden has a solid chance right now, as in more likely to win. But if Dems go with the messaging style that some of the apparently elitist Dems we have here seem to prefer, that will definitely diminish our odds.
If we have to rely on people coming to their senses, then we've got problems.My real hope is everyone knows who Trump is this time around unlike 2016. I remember taking my mom to her doctor right after the 2016 election and he seemed to have talked himself into thinking Trump wouldn't try to take a wrecking ball to the ACA because he was just talking shit and acting like an ass to drum up support from his nazi base. When I told him Trump's mentor was Roy Cohn it's like all the color left his face and he first realized no that's who Trump actually is and that's how he's going to govern.
That's like whenever Jordan Klepper goes to a Trump rally... Sad.If we have to rely on people coming to their senses, then we've got problems.
This is like the people that talk about how hard it is to find a job "right now" and have been for years. Meanwhile unemployment is at historic lows and has been for quite a while.You should definitely try harder to get in touch with the real world. Your anecdotes have made you think real wages for low wage workers have either stagnated or outright declined when they have in fact increased at a faster rate at any time in close to a half century.
When your view of what's happening in the real world is that radically wrong you should take a step back and try to figure out how you got so out of touch.
So is your alternate fact that egg producers didn't see their profits soar from their price gouging? Was it an alternative fact when the head of Federal Reserve in KC said 60% of inflation was from increased corporate profits?
This is like the people that talk about how hard it is to find a job "right now" and have been for years. Meanwhile unemployment is at historic lows and has been for quite a while.
Hell, some "leftist" in this thread agree with them. I can't imagine thinking Biden's America is so bad that you want to go back to March of 2020.Cool, and millions of Republicans are convinced that 2020 was the best year of the lives because inflation was low and gas was cheap. The year no one could leave their house, unemployment was through the roof, hundreds of thousands of people were dying from covid, and you couldn't even get a roll of toilet paper from the grocery store.
Maybe ya'll should stop letting Republicans control the narrative?
Well that is always true, and why 50% of people are dissatisfied with their job.Well it's always been hard to find the job you want.. but easy to get a job if that's all you care about.
really? please point them out.Hell, some "leftist" in this thread agree with them. I can't imagine thinking Biden's America is so bad that you want to go back to March of 2020.
Except, besides may be one person here, nobody has said that. I mean you people just keep making this shit up in your heads. It's bonkers.It's not about dismissing concerns. They shouldn't do that. But we shouldn't frame everything from a negative. Why vote again for the Democrats if the voter viewpoint is "everything still sucks, I have nostalgia goggles on, and Democrats have been in charge for 4 years."
But for people On Here, who have access to information and are allegedly informed, I think it's okay to point out when people are being stupid.