Stein drops Pennsylvania recount

Exophase

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It cost Stein over $3m just to make the Wisconsin recount happen (much higher than what the state gave as an initial estimate). The money they raised isn't enough to make MI alone viable while also fighting a legal battle just to proceed with PA, especially when such a thing would likely stall progress beyond the point of no return anyway. So it isn't surprising that they'd have to cut their losses at this point.

But they should absolutely be held extremely accountable for everything they do use the money for.
 

1prophet

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Looks like if the recount doesn't work they are already working on plan b, the "peaceful petition" to change electoral college voters minds.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kno...al-college-voter-gets-death-threats-over-vote

An Electoral College voter said on CNN Wednesday that he's received death threats over his vote.

Michael Banerian, a college student in Michigan and the youth vice chairman of the Michigan Republican party, is one of the state's 16 electors who will cast a vote for president-elect Donald Trump.

But since people figured out he is one of the electoral voters, he said he has received death threats.

"Obviously, this election cycle was pretty divisive. Unfortunately it's bled over into the weeks following the election and I have been inundated with death threats, death wishes, generally angry messages trying to get me to change my vote to Hillary Clinton or another person, and unfortunately, it's gotten a little out of control," Banerian said.

"I've had people talk about putting a bullet in the back of my mouth. I've had death wishes or people just saying 'I hope you die.' Or, 'Do society a favor, throw yourself in front of a bus,'" he said.

Banerian told CNN he filed a police report over the death threats. He also explained that even if he wanted to change his vote, which he said he doesn't, there are laws that prevent him from doing so.

"In the state of Michigan we have laws that prevent faithless electors. So, essentially what happens, if I tried to vote for somebody else, which, let me be clear, I don't want to, but if I tried to, I would be removed and replaced by another elector. It's a pointless endeavor," he said.
 

superstition

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Ok, that's pretty good

She raised 6 million plus, no refunds, LOL, what a scam.
There was a posting elsewhere about how highly difficult it is to get a recount to happen in PA. Huge number of affidavits required, etc. The bureaucratic impediment, including the deadline, was said to be the primary factor in her failure to get the recount to happen there, not money.

This is not something I've followed but I don't see how it can be called a scam. What does Stein gain from failure to get the recount to happen? It makes her look ineffective. It's not like this money is going to end up in her bank account.
 

superstition

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Breitbart said:
In order to actually trigger a recount statewide, which is the goal, Stein needs to find nearly 30,000 individual voters and have them submit an affidavit requesting the recount — that’s three voters for all 9,163 precincts in the state. If she does find 27,000-plus voters to do that, they must file their affidavits by the end of business Monday.

Pennsylvania is one of a handful of states that mostly tabulates votes 100 percent electronically, with no paper-backed audit.

“The nightmare scenario would be if Pennsylvania decides the election and it is very close. You would have no paper records to do a recount,” voting expert Lawrence Norden told the Los Angeles Times on Oct. 20.
 

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There was a posting elsewhere about how highly difficult it is to get a recount to happen in PA. Huge number of affidavits required, etc. The bureaucratic impediment, including the deadline, was said to be the primary factor in her failure to get the recount to happen there, not money.

This is not something I've followed but I don't see how it can be called a scam. What does Stein gain from failure to get the recount to happen? It makes her look ineffective. It's not like this money is going to end up in her bank account.

Where does it go?
 

Painman

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But who fucking actually cares? The news is that Trump fucking wins anyway.

https://youtu.be/hPnHzWegavo

Fuck y'all. No mercy.

EDIT: I have NO idea why I linked that video. But it's a cool song anyway.
 
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baydude

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How do you raise over $6 million and can't afford $1 million for the recount?
 

Bird222

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The issue is that the people that protest the vote (regular citizens not Jill Stein) have to pay for the recount. Stein is suing to change that.
 

Bird222

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Who does she think should pay for it then?
It's not Jill Stein, it's the powers that be that are saying Jill Stein can't pay for it but the people that filed the protest must. As you can imagine most people don't have millions of dollars for a recount. Stein and co. are going to court to convince a judge of that.
 

OutHouse

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what a tool. it wont change anything so wtf is the point? Trump wins now matter how many recounts are done. If it was something like FL with Gore then maybe but Trump flipped a lot of blue states.
 

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"This is about responding to the American voters who are standing up and saying, 'We deserve an election system that we can trust, and that is accurate, that is secure against hacking, against human error, against machine error, and in which the votes are being counted.' Because right now, it's not clear that all the votes are being counted," Stein said on "Fox News Sunday."

there isn't anything on earth that this statement could represent and she thinks it can actually be attainable by the electoral system.

who's bat shit crazy now.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/03/politics/jill-stein-drops-pennsylvania-recount/
 

peonyu

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She is just a troll paid by Hillary to do this. The proof is that she was interviewed by Chris Wallace yesterday and she was asked why she isnt pushing to recount New Hampshire - a state Hillary won by only 3000 votes! And her reply??

"It was past the filing deadline"...Oh nice Jill, that makes sense, until you realize that PENNSYLVANIA was past the deadline and she hired lawyers to try and force a recount!

Jill is a shill for Hillary and a embarrassment to the Green party - even her VP doesnt back her up and is telling her to cut it out. If she was truely impartial and only concerned about voter integrity then New Hampshire would in the courts now as Jill's lawyers would be pushing for a recount there...But thats not the case.

 

compuwiz1

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what a tool. it wont change anything so wtf is the point? Trump wins now matter how many recounts are done. If it was something like FL with Gore then maybe but Trump flipped a lot of blue states.

This is the reality that some folk can't seem to deal with. That supposed "secure blue wall" got obliterated. After years of democrats failing the people, in those regions, this should come as no surprise. People wanted change and not Obama's fundamental kind of change.
 

peonyu

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This is the reality that some folk can't seem to deal with. That supposed "secure blue wall" got obliterated. After years of democrats failing the people, in those regions, this should come as no surprise. People wanted change and not Obama's fundamental kind of change.

As someone who was born and raised in Western Pennsylvania, and my dad was a coal miner...I saw this coming. Hillary Clinton calling people "deplorables", that especially was very insulting and that was probably the most damaging thing she could have said. The "deplorables" remark felt targeted towards the people of the rust belt and its no surprise they rebelled against her and the Democratic party.
 
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She is just a troll paid by Hillary to do this. The proof is that she was interviewed by Chris Wallace yesterday and she was asked why she isnt pushing to recount New Hampshire - a state Hillary won by only 3000 votes! And her reply??

"It was past the filing deadline"...Oh nice Jill, that makes sense, until you realize that PENNSYLVANIA was past the deadline and she hired lawyers to try and force a recount!

Jill is a shill for Hillary and a embarrassment to the Green party - even her VP doesnt back her up and is telling her to cut it out. If she was truely impartial and only concerned about voter integrity then New Hampshire would in the courts now as Jill's lawyers would be pushing for a recount there...But thats not the case.


Some folks will believe pretty much anything.

Sad.
 
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