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spaceman

Lifer
Dec 4, 2000
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tax the rich!
because any job ive ever had has been in the employ of a poor guy.:roll:
 

Red Dawn

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Jun 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Im pretty much resigned to the fact that Obama will be the next president, taxes will get jacked up, and the government will just continue to spend away on stupid crap. Np real solutions to anything, just more of the same crap.

I mean if he's all about "change", then why wasnt he doing anything as a senator the last few years?

Things going down the crapper is also "change", the hope comes when you hope the president after him will fix it.
Kind of like now with Bush and Obama?

 

Rhaze

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IMO... the only way we really had a chance for 'change' and 'hope' was with Ron Paul. Everything else is stacking up to be varying degrees of crazy/failure.

/flameshield
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Rhaze
IMO... the only way we really had a chance for 'change' and 'hope' was with Ron Paul. Everything else is stacking up to be varying degrees of crazy/failure.

/flameshield
And this is different than any other election we've had in the last 40 years?
 

Xavier434

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Oct 14, 2002
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Well, the simple answer to the questions in your OP is that I believe Obama will do it better than the "other guy". There really isn't much more to say or think about until I am convinced otherwise of that simple belief.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Rhaze
IMO... the only way we really had a chance for 'change' and 'hope' was with Ron Paul. Everything else is stacking up to be varying degrees of crazy/failure.

/flameshield

The bolded go together.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
Well, the simple answer to the questions in your OP is that I believe Obama will do it better than the "other guy". There really isn't much more to say or think about until I am convinced otherwise of that simple belief.

:thumbsup:
 

JJChicken

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Apr 9, 2007
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: herm0016
i have read his plan. he is going to increase the taxes on my investments so that i can not continue to pay for college on my own.

That's his old plan. His new one should be out soon.

:laugh:
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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Originally posted by: Robor
FFS are you serious, Skoorb? Did you really think Obama got where he is without pandering for votes? Come on. You guys complaining about Obama and McCain would be complaining about a 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc. This whining reminds me of 2000 and 2004. Wah. Neither of the candidates are perfect. Wah.

No candidate is going to get elected without making concessions. That's reality. Sorry.

No candidates policies/plans will satisfy 'all of the people all of the time'. There's a reason the popular vote falls around 50%.

No candidate is going to be able to fix everything - especially the mess we're in now. It took a while to get into it and it's going to take a while to get out.

Yes we are voting for the lesser of 2 evils and if it wasn't 2 it would be 3 or 4 or 5.

They're politicians. Duh. JFC people, vote for the candidate who you feel strongest about and stop bitching that 'Candidate A' isn't perfect. I'm an Obama supporter and there's *plenty* of things I don't like about him but there's plenty more I dislike about McCain.

Everyone knows there is no perfect candidate, but right now (as in 04 and 00), I'd bet you most people really feel there is no good choice, they are picking the one least likely to mess things up further. That's a sad state of affairs when we can't produce 3 or 4 quality candidates. Maybe we can outsource the job to India or China

 

Rhaze

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: Rhaze
IMO... the only way we really had a chance for 'change' and 'hope' was with Ron Paul. Everything else is stacking up to be varying degrees of crazy/failure.

/flameshield

The bolded go together.

Just curious. Why?
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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Mommy Mommy, I'm really pissed off at Obama.

But he hasn't even won the election yet my Son.

Ah Mom, why did you bring that up? Can't you see I'm full of tension and just want to have a tantrum.

Well of course my Son but you'll outgrow that when you emotionally get past two.
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: herm0016
i live in Michigan, home of the special tax on small business.. that's what happened here, why do you think it will be different anywhere else? and, yes, i do believe i am qualified to analyze my own economic position.

Michigan is one of the most mismanaged states in America. Even without an idiotic president, your state would still be running up debts and driving away business.

Speaking for myself, I think Louisiana, or at least New Orleans, has that distinction.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Mommy Mommy, I'm really pissed off at Obama.

But he hasn't even won the election yet my Son.

Ah Mom, why did you bring that up? Can't you see I'm full of tension and just want to have a tantrum.

Well of course my Son but you'll outgrow that when you emotionally get past two.

Can you blame them? He's constantly changing his position on a number of issues. He doesn't seem to have a set political philosophy. How can one not question his integrity?
 
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