Street Fighter 4 Official Thread

[pennylane]

How to not be a jerk, according to GamesRadar.

I agree completely with 1 through 7.

10 I disagree completely. Throws are part of the game and they're not really cheap with a 3-frame start-up. Jabbing the opponent usually works...

I can see why 8 is frustrating. I don't know, I guess I don't understand the tactical advantage. The other player reveals his cards, but gains a round. If you sandbag the first round and you're better than your opponent, wouldn't you beat him anyway? If you're of similar skill, he'll have revealed his cards but he's also gained a win (plus he should be able to figure out your sandbagging). If the opponent is better than you, wouldn't he figure out the sandbagging and be able to beat you? I suppose the advantage is more helpful in a best-of-5 instead of a best-of-3.

Of course I have nothing against feeling your opponent out (especially if they're hot) and not revealing your entire gameplan in round 1...

With 9, I can understand that not having a title gets people more matches, and I can understand why noobs don't want to play grand masters (would a complete noob really learn anything from getting double perfected on?). In the end, I feel like people should just be more honest. Learning players should be willing to get owned every now and then (and not worry about getting their 10-ranked wins trochievment) and just play whoever challenges them, and good players should at least put something down to indicate they're not noobs.

I don't know. I guess deception just bothers me, especially pre-match deception. Of course it helps you win and that's the bottom line, but... it's like lying! Sigh, this is what probably will keep me from being a good player.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: fanerman91

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: purbeast0
I would definitely be down with a tourney on either console.

If we do one though, please, let's not just do 1 match. Make it like best of 5 or something.

Cause I hate when I play ranked against someone and have a close match that could have gone either way (usually i only hate when i lose, obviously heh) and can't play them again.

Yeah I prefer best of 5 standard length matches.

I'm not sure how I stand. For online ranked matches, I prefer best-of-five because that's your only shot at the guy. But for player matches that go on indefinitely or in a tournament where you have to win 2 (or 3) matches anyway, I kinda prefer best-of-3.

Not that I'm getting in on this since I'm on PS3. Just some thoughts.

i'm talking (and I think bl4ckfl4g is too) 5 best of 3 matches.

EDIT: i do not like playing 1 round matches and i really don't like 5 round matches either.

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: fanerman91

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g

Originally posted by: purbeast0
I would definitely be down with a tourney on either console.

If we do one though, please, let's not just do 1 match. Make it like best of 5 or something.

Cause I hate when I play ranked against someone and have a close match that could have gone either way (usually i only hate when i lose, obviously heh) and can't play them again.

Yeah I prefer best of 5 standard length matches.

I'm not sure how I stand. For online ranked matches, I prefer best-of-five because that's your only shot at the guy. But for player matches that go on indefinitely or in a tournament where you have to win 2 (or 3) matches anyway, I kinda prefer best-of-3.

Not that I'm getting in on this since I'm on PS3. Just some thoughts.

i'm talking (and I think bl4ckfl4g is too) 5 best of 3 matches.

EDIT: i do not like playing 1 round matches and i really don't like 5 round matches either.

Oh I see what you mean. Yeah I think that's ideal. Blame my not understanding on lack of coffee.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
How to not be a jerk, according to GamesRadar.

I agree completely with 1 through 7.

10 I disagree completely. Throws are part of the game and they're not really cheap with a 3-frame start-up. Jabbing the opponent usually works...

I can see why 8 is frustrating. I don't know, I guess I don't understand the tactical advantage. The other player reveals his cards, but gains a round. If you sandbag the first round and you're better than your opponent, wouldn't you beat him anyway? If you're of similar skill, he'll have revealed his cards but he's also gained a win (plus he should be able to figure out your sandbagging). If the opponent is better than you, wouldn't he figure out the sandbagging and be able to beat you? I suppose the advantage is more helpful in a best-of-5 instead of a best-of-3.

Of course I have nothing against feeling your opponent out (especially if they're hot) and not revealing your entire gameplan in round 1...

With 9, I can understand that not having a title gets people more matches, and I can understand why noobs don't want to play grand masters (would a complete noob really learn anything from getting double perfected on?). In the end, I feel like people should just be more honest. Learning players should be willing to get owned every now and then (and not worry about getting their 10-ranked wins trochievment) and just play whoever challenges them, and good players should at least put something down to indicate they're not noobs.

I don't know. I guess deception just bothers me, especially pre-match deception. Of course it helps you win and that's the bottom line, but... it's like lying! Sigh, this is what probably will keep me from being a good player.

I don't understand #6 at all. Are they whining about picking the right character for the job? That's bullshit, as you have to know how to use the character in the first place to do anything and also they should just be happy they aren't picking Ken. Hypocritical bastards. Also I'm happy to say I've never run into somebody who picked 1 round and 30 seconds.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
How to not be a jerk, according to GamesRadar.

I agree completely with 1 through 7.

10 I disagree completely. Throws are part of the game and they're not really cheap with a 3-frame start-up. Jabbing the opponent usually works...

I can see why 8 is frustrating. I don't know, I guess I don't understand the tactical advantage. The other player reveals his cards, but gains a round. If you sandbag the first round and you're better than your opponent, wouldn't you beat him anyway? If you're of similar skill, he'll have revealed his cards but he's also gained a win (plus he should be able to figure out your sandbagging). If the opponent is better than you, wouldn't he figure out the sandbagging and be able to beat you? I suppose the advantage is more helpful in a best-of-5 instead of a best-of-3.

Of course I have nothing against feeling your opponent out (especially if they're hot) and not revealing your entire gameplan in round 1...

With 9, I can understand that not having a title gets people more matches, and I can understand why noobs don't want to play grand masters (would a complete noob really learn anything from getting double perfected on?). In the end, I feel like people should just be more honest. Learning players should be willing to get owned every now and then (and not worry about getting their 10-ranked wins trochievment) and just play whoever challenges them, and good players should at least put something down to indicate they're not noobs.

I don't know. I guess deception just bothers me, especially pre-match deception. Of course it helps you win and that's the bottom line, but... it's like lying! Sigh, this is what probably will keep me from being a good player.

I agree with all of em except 1, 2, 8, 9, and 10.

You can play as whoever the hell you want.

It's pretty damn easy to just avoid 1 round or 30 second matches, it tells you before you enter the room.

8 is just dumb, you can play however you want.

9 is dumb too, some people don't give a crap about customization and just want to fight someone. you also have the other extreme of people who think they are good because they have finished all of the hard challenges and have the uber hard icon/title to get, and then you face them and they suck.

10 i would have agreed with when sf4 first came out, but now i'm learning to use them more and accept them more, and because of this, i'm getting thrown a lot less because i'm teching.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: fanerman91
How to not be a jerk, according to GamesRadar.

I agree completely with 1 through 7.

10 I disagree completely. Throws are part of the game and they're not really cheap with a 3-frame start-up. Jabbing the opponent usually works...

I can see why 8 is frustrating. I don't know, I guess I don't understand the tactical advantage. The other player reveals his cards, but gains a round. If you sandbag the first round and you're better than your opponent, wouldn't you beat him anyway? If you're of similar skill, he'll have revealed his cards but he's also gained a win (plus he should be able to figure out your sandbagging). If the opponent is better than you, wouldn't he figure out the sandbagging and be able to beat you? I suppose the advantage is more helpful in a best-of-5 instead of a best-of-3.

Of course I have nothing against feeling your opponent out (especially if they're hot) and not revealing your entire gameplan in round 1...

With 9, I can understand that not having a title gets people more matches, and I can understand why noobs don't want to play grand masters (would a complete noob really learn anything from getting double perfected on?). In the end, I feel like people should just be more honest. Learning players should be willing to get owned every now and then (and not worry about getting their 10-ranked wins trochievment) and just play whoever challenges them, and good players should at least put something down to indicate they're not noobs.

I don't know. I guess deception just bothers me, especially pre-match deception. Of course it helps you win and that's the bottom line, but... it's like lying! Sigh, this is what probably will keep me from being a good player.

I don't understand #6 at all. Are they whining about picking the right character for the job? That's bullshit, as you have to know how to use the character in the first place to do anything and also they should just be happy they aren't picking Ken. Hypocritical bastards. Also I'm happy to say I've never run into somebody who picked 1 round and 30 seconds.

they are talking about the people who wait for you to pick your character before they pick theirs, and i agree 100%, that is just lame as hell, and could be avoided if they just didnt show you who the other person picked (ala ssf2thdr)

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: fanerman91
How to not be a jerk, according to GamesRadar.

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I don't understand #6 at all. Are they whining about picking the right character for the job? That's bullshit, as you have to know how to use the character in the first place to do anything and also they should just be happy they aren't picking Ken. Hypocritical bastards. Also I'm happy to say I've never run into somebody who picked 1 round and 30 seconds.

they are talking about the people who wait for you to pick your character before they pick theirs, and i agree 100%, that is just lame as hell, and could be avoided if they just didnt show you who the other person picked (ala ssf2thdr)

Yeah I guess, but still IMO it shouldn't really matter. The game is pretty solidly balanced so a good player should be able to hold his own even if the other player picked his counter. I would still love to have the char select hidden though.

And I sort of agree w/ 10, but in all honesty that's just because I'm getting thrown a lot which really is my own damn fault. He spams me with attacks that I block and then get tossed, and I never can get a hit in before they do so.

 

[pennylane]

I think the point of #1 is to let noobs know that noobs/scrubs have a habit of picking Ken and spamming shoryukens and it's kind of annoying. For the record, I don't mind playing Ken scrubs because I haven't learned to own them yet. But I do enjoy playing against different characters.

#2 is annoying because there are people online that change the round settings to 1-round 30-second quickly and before you realize it (based on experiences of SRK people--I haven't run into any). If it's set to 1-round 30-second from the beginning, then the onus is on you to leave if you don't like it, but apparently some people online try to "trick" you into getting into a 1-round 30-second match. I think #2 is more about courtesy than anything.

#6 is about waiting until the other guy picks the character and then picking the "counter", like purbeast0 said. I'd file this one under being courteous, too. I don't know. Maybe I'm too "honorable" before the match.

 

[purbeast0]

yah i think it's just lame cause it's basically the guy saying "Oh I have to use X in order to beat you if you are Ken, but if you picked Balrog I would have to use Y in order to beat you."

the sad thing is, usually these people aren't good since they have to depend on certain characters to beat certain characters.

also, fyi, anyone on efnet, join #streetfighter4 to chat up some sf4 goodness!

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Awesome. My Sanwa buttons, bubble ball top, bat top (gonna see which one I like better), octogonal gate (i use square but I'm curious) shipped from Akihabrashop today. Ordered 2 weeks after I ordered from LL and the LL order probably won't ship for another 2 weeks.

 

[purbeast0]

hey anyone on 360, i'll be on tomorrow during the day on 360 for a while and if anyone wants to run some player matches send me an invite.

i can get on ps3 too if anyone wants to hop on there and play, but i'll probably be on 360 by default.

 

[Dangerer]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
And I sort of agree w/ 10, but in all honesty that's just because I'm getting thrown a lot which really is my own damn fault. He spams me with attacks that I block and then get tossed, and I never can get a hit in before they do so.

A typical tick throw attempt starts with a jump in kick, then jab jab, then walk up throw. I'll assume you blocked the jump in high, and immediately went to crouch to continue blocking. Immediately following his two jabs, start mashing throw while still crouched. There will be three outcomes, either you do a lk, lp, or a tech throw, but you basically never get thrown in any scenario.

 

[Dumac]

I find #6 really annoying, but I haven't encountered it to much.

7 is also pretty annoying...

10 is dumb. Especially how they relate it to snaking in Mario Kart :roll:

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: bl4ckfl4g
Awesome. My Sanwa buttons, bubble ball top, bat top (gonna see which one I like better), octogonal gate (i use square but I'm curious) shipped from Akihabrashop today. Ordered 2 weeks after I ordered from LL and the LL order probably won't ship for another 2 weeks.

I feel pretty bad for LL. I totally did not foresee this magnitude of a jump in demand for joystick products. Of course LL could have handled it better, but it's hard to assess the situation when it happens so fast and you have a million orders to deal with.

 

[ponyo]

I think my cheap Fighting Stick 3 joystick is starting to go. I've played 298 online matches and bunch of computer matches and noticed the joystick starting to stick. Certain movements and commands are getting harder to pull off as if the input is less precise. I should've picked up the Hori RAP3 when I had the chance earlier this month. Now who knows when it will be restocked.

Passed 2,000 battle points mark. I feel my Zief getting better the more I play and certain matchups that gave me lot of problems like Akuma is more manageable now. I wouldn't mind playing some of the forum members. I play on the PS3 under "latexpaint" usually after 10pm Eastern couple nights a week.

 

[ponyo]

How do you get different costumes for your character? I see some people with fancy stuff, and I'm stuck with the boring stock uniforms.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Naustica
How do you get different costumes for your character? I see some people with fancy stuff, and I'm stuck with the boring stock uniforms.

Play the survivor and time attack challenges. You get new stuff at certain levels.

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: Naustica
How do you get different costumes for your character? I see some people with fancy stuff, and I'm stuck with the boring stock uniforms.

Play the survivor and time attack challenges. You get new stuff at certain levels.

Alternate costume packs also cost money. They're $4 each on PSN (320 XBOX bucks) individually (5 total). Or you can wait until April when the all-in-one pack comes out for $10 total (and whatever the equivalent in xbox bucks is).

 

[Chrono]

HAHA I played ELF and this guy messaged me that "you play like a pussy"

 

[Chrono]

Mind you I was comboing with ELF quite well on the guy. Don't know how that's playing like a pussy. I do not turtle unlike others who simply hit and run.

 

[purbeast0]

hey i think i was just playing someone from here but not sure and forget the PSN ID, but i thought it was my other friends request so i quit out after our first match.

 

[Trader05]

im about to jump on and play some online

 

[pennylane]

I :heart: shamWOW

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
I :heart: shamWOW

dont watch this video, it's a waste of time.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: fanerman91
I :heart: shamWOW

dont watch this video, it's a waste of time.

Why didn't you tell me before I clicked on it? What a horrible video... what's the fucking point? And why is it getting rated so high?