Street Fighter 4 Official Thread

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Someone's gotta tell me how to beat a Zangief Lariat spammer... When playing online as Honda, I find myself often getting stuck in a situation where Zangief comes in close with his Lariat, I'm blocking then he'll grab and throw me. I dont appear to be good enough to tech the throw. I get people that will also walk up close, and when I'm on the ground jump to the other side and Lariat again, then repeat. It seems like not many of Honda's moves have priority over it... jabs certainly don't.

I find that non-fireball characters have problems facing zangief.

I main Balrog and Zangief matches are boring and tough to win. His lariet basically destroys ANYTHING I can try to throw at him, except a jump fierce punch. However, I've learned that if Zangief is ducking when he throws that lariet as I come in with the jump fierce punch, his lariet has priority over my jump punch.

I typically just jump around a lot when facing Zangief, and I tend to try to catch him with quick dash punches as I land if I see him walking forward, then jump back and fierce punch again in the air.

As Honda, on wake, you should try the sumo butt smash move. I think that has some startup frames but not sure as I don't use him much at all, and if you use a fierce one, it will take you pretty far away from zangief as you are getting up if he's overtop of you.

The Lariat is probably the most dominant move in the game.

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Someone's gotta tell me how to beat a Zangief Lariat spammer... When playing online as Honda, I find myself often getting stuck in a situation where Zangief comes in close with his Lariat, I'm blocking then he'll grab and throw me. I dont appear to be good enough to tech the throw. I get people that will also walk up close, and when I'm on the ground jump to the other side and Lariat again, then repeat. It seems like not many of Honda's moves have priority over it... jabs certainly don't.

Try using Ryu or Ken. I'm not a very good player, G2E, but I love playing Zangief. He's just easy to beat for me. I'll throw a fireball from 3/4 away from him, when he goes into his lariat, I dash then leg sweep. You know what they say, fight a bigger person, take out their legs. The leg sweeping doesn't always work as I find myself backed in the corner often and I actually find it easier to control him. When backed in the corner, just jump straight up and fierce kick then sweep.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Modeps
Someone's gotta tell me how to beat a Zangief Lariat spammer... When playing online as Honda, I find myself often getting stuck in a situation where Zangief comes in close with his Lariat, I'm blocking then he'll grab and throw me. I dont appear to be good enough to tech the throw. I get people that will also walk up close, and when I'm on the ground jump to the other side and Lariat again, then repeat. It seems like not many of Honda's moves have priority over it... jabs certainly don't.

I find that non-fireball characters have problems facing zangief.

I main Balrog and Zangief matches are boring and tough to win. His lariet basically destroys ANYTHING I can try to throw at him, except a jump fierce punch. However, I've learned that if Zangief is ducking when he throws that lariet as I come in with the jump fierce punch, his lariet has priority over my jump punch.

I typically just jump around a lot when facing Zangief, and I tend to try to catch him with quick dash punches as I land if I see him walking forward, then jump back and fierce punch again in the air.

As Honda, on wake, you should try the sumo butt smash move. I think that has some startup frames but not sure as I don't use him much at all, and if you use a fierce one, it will take you pretty far away from zangief as you are getting up if he's overtop of you.

The Lariat is probably the most dominant move in the game.

What makes it even more annoying, is that you can bind it to one button. There's no skill required to pull it off. No timing, just hit that button. Good idea about the Sumo smash... I'll try to do that on wake next time I face off.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Modeps

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Modeps
Someone's gotta tell me how to beat a Zangief Lariat spammer... When playing online as Honda, I find myself often getting stuck in a situation where Zangief comes in close with his Lariat, I'm blocking then he'll grab and throw me. I dont appear to be good enough to tech the throw. I get people that will also walk up close, and when I'm on the ground jump to the other side and Lariat again, then repeat. It seems like not many of Honda's moves have priority over it... jabs certainly don't.

I find that non-fireball characters have problems facing zangief.

I main Balrog and Zangief matches are boring and tough to win. His lariet basically destroys ANYTHING I can try to throw at him, except a jump fierce punch. However, I've learned that if Zangief is ducking when he throws that lariet as I come in with the jump fierce punch, his lariet has priority over my jump punch.

I typically just jump around a lot when facing Zangief, and I tend to try to catch him with quick dash punches as I land if I see him walking forward, then jump back and fierce punch again in the air.

As Honda, on wake, you should try the sumo butt smash move. I think that has some startup frames but not sure as I don't use him much at all, and if you use a fierce one, it will take you pretty far away from zangief as you are getting up if he's overtop of you.

The Lariat is probably the most dominant move in the game.

What makes it even more annoying, is that you can bind it to one button. There's no skill required to pull it off. No timing, just hit that button. Good idea about the Sumo smash... I'll try to do that on wake next time I face off.

You don't have to bind it to one button yourself, the game has 3xP and 3xK bound by default.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

You don't have to bind it to one button yourself, the game has 3xP and 3xK bound by default.

When you're playing with a control pad, 3xP&K is almost impossible to properly pull off... I understand WHY they do it, but that doesn't mean I like it.

 

[JoPh]

i use zangief but i find the lariet doesnt work when ryu does a jump hk when he is right ontop of my head... like overhead.. maybe i just cant time the lariet properly but i suck with it.

 

[buzzsaw13]

for zangief you have to time crouching MP for antiair if you can't time the lariat

 

[mxyzptlk]

how do you fail at the lariat easy button?!

lol anyway, when gief is spinning his head is vulnerable so I aim for that. Sakura's jumping HP is good for hitting him on the noggin.

 

[JoPh]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
how do you fail at the lariat easy button?!

lol anyway, when gief is spinning his head is vulnerable so I aim for that. Sakura's jumping HP is good for hitting him on the noggin.

i fail at sf4. i seem to always get kicked in the head when i lariet. so it misses.

 

[Dangerer]

Just spent the better half of my day losing my way into G2-C bracket. Didn't win a single tourney in probably 4 hours of play ugh

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Dangerer
Just spent the better half of my day losing my way into G2-C bracket. Didn't win a single tourney in probably 4 hours of play ugh

i popped up into there tonight too. i won 2 tourneys to help.

you sould watch my replay, i played this scrub ken who had absolutely 0 offense, so i just decided to sit back and see what he would do.

he had nothing at all, it is kind of an amusing video to see how someone like him can be in a final.

i'm still trying to get used to sanwa, i don't know if i like it or not yet. it still doesn't feel "right" when i'm playing with this joystick/buttons. i'm having trouble linking some stuff that i wasn't before, but at the same time i'm linking other stuff i was doing not so easily before. my main problem is balrogs damn headbutt. don't know why i'm having so much problems with it.

anyone else notice that lag on sf4 has been bad the past few days? like worse than normal?

 

[Cdubneeddeal]

Originally posted by: purbeast0


anyone else notice that lag on sf4 has been bad the past few days? like worse than normal?

Yeah..I've noticed it too. Been difficult to find any players to play. Seems to have gotten better later this evening though.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal

Originally posted by: purbeast0


anyone else notice that lag on sf4 has been bad the past few days? like worse than normal?

Yeah..I've noticed it too. Been difficult to find any players to play. Seems to have gotten better later this evening though.

ok glad it was not just me, seems the past few days i'ts been tougher to get good matches.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

My actual match lag hasn't been bad. It is just that the connection bars aren't right. Just ignore the connection bars. 9/10 it is fine. Whatever server is pinging everyones connection is bad or overloaded or something.

 

[mxyzptlk]

gg's last night chrono. I am trying to force FA's into my game right now, I'm still at the infant stages. I'm not getting the dashes right, I tend to spam them and either dash too soon and into a hit or too many times and waste too much time during the crumple animation... I wasn't even able to capitalize on the few crumples that I landed. I went into training mode for a bit after we were done and tried to build a successful combo off the lvl2 focus, something simple like c.lk->c.FP->ex tatsu.. I can do it in training, but it's still going to take some time to put it into work in a live battle, mainly because I just need to calm down and tone down the mashing.

lol, I'll tell you this though.. after playing you, g2e scrubs are cake. I gave a round to this horrible, run-away Akuma. Stood completely still and let him fireball me death for 1 round, then half the 2nd round. After that, I totally mopped the floor with him, perfected the 3rd round.

 

[Chrono]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
gg's last night chrono. I am trying to force FA's into my game right now, I'm still at the infant stages. I'm not getting the dashes right, I tend to spam them and either dash too soon and into a hit or too many times and waste too much time during the crumple animation... I wasn't even able to capitalize on the few crumples that I landed. I went into training mode for a bit after we were done and tried to build a successful combo off the lvl2 focus, something simple like c.lk->c.FP->ex tatsu.. I can do it in training, but it's still going to take some time to put it into work in a live battle, mainly because I just need to calm down and tone down the mashing.

lol, I'll tell you this though.. after playing you, g2e scrubs are cake. I gave a round to this horrible, run-away Akuma. Stood completely still and let him fireball me death for 1 round, then half the 2nd round. After that, I totally mopped the floor with him, perfected the 3rd round.

Heh. You beat my ELF! I haven't really been playing as ELF. Just Abel and Ryu lately. You're getting better, that's good. Championship point wise, I only have 2900 points.

 

[mxyzptlk]

oh yea, ripped off from srk forums..

http://i39.tinypic.com/102rp15.gif

IRL Zangief lariat -> ultra combo. :laugh:

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

mxyzptlk, you on XBL? I need more people to play.

I'll be adding Chrono tonight. Can't wait to get beat down.

 

[mxyzptlk]

nope sorry, psn only.

 

[Chrono]

NEED TO GET BETTER. Only way to get better is by knowing how other characters play. Lil too much time needed to do that.

 

[bl4ckfl4g]

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
oh yea, ripped off from srk forums..

http://i39.tinypic.com/102rp15.gif

IRL Zangief lariat -> ultra combo. :laugh:

rofl nice. Why is he doing it to a dummy haha.

 

[JoPh]

anyone up for some ps3 ?

 

[urinesane]

I just started playing on Live yesterday. My main is Fuerte, but I still can't do his infinite loop and please don't call him ELF.

 

[Chrono]

ELF? You don't like that nick name?

Zief, Slim, Elf, Dictator, etc. heh

 

[JoPh]

Originally posted by: Chrono
ELF? You don't like that nick name?

Zief, Slim, Elf, Dictator, etc. heh

who is slim?