Stupidity

[sao123]

im tired of this argument too...


if you get high on any substance for any reason whatsoever... you are a fucking idiot.
/thread

 

[canadageek]

Originally posted by: sao123
im tired of this argument too...


if you get high on any substance for any reason whatsoever... you are a fucking idiot.
/thread

I'll bet you're a blast at parties :s

I grow my own, and smoke it every day, mo'fucka. no dealer bullshit, no dry spells, just a nice, clean smoke.

 

[shortylickens]

I figured this would turn into a P&N thread sooner rather than later.

ATOT Queen Bitches disappoint me again. :|

 

[canadageek]

yeah....everybody needs to chill out and offer a blessing to Jah

 

[Tessi]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Where the hell did you hear that it is decriminalized in CA?

If you think a state can decriminalize, your knowledge of how laws work is lacking.

Check out this news story from CNN:
Oakland, California, passes landmark marijuana tax

 

[IGBT]

your a doper and you need help. if you feel a need to intoxicate under the guise of "recreation", you need rehab and counseling. Find out why your maturity level is stuck on dizzy.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: IGBT
your a doper and you need help. if you feel a need to intoxicate under the guise of "recreation", you need rehab and counseling. Find out why your maturity level is stuck on dizzy.

I want to know the reason you are so against the "recreational use of an intoxicant."

If someone has an explicit feeling of need for a chemical, then that's one thing, and deserves attention.
If someone has a desire to use something, to enjoy the bliss, well... that rarely warrants attention, except to those hardliners who are against any chemical intoxicant.

Are you so hardlined with alcohol? It's a chemical intoxicant, more specifically, a central nerve system depressant.
Going out and getting intoxicated with buddies, or even drinking one or two at night after work, or alongside dinner, etc... is that a terrible concept in your mind? Just because society has gone so far to incorporate into daily lives and keep it as a legal intoxicant, doesn't make it any better than something like marijuana. Both, alongside with nicotine, have been staples since the dawn of civilization, some civilizations having differing attitudes at their times, but in the end, always there. Doesn't make anything good or bad, that would be strictly the style of use and how often used.

Everyone who uses either alcohol or marijuana, or both... have styles and justifications for how it is used. Typically both are very social, however some use it for relaxing, some for therapeutic purposes (and yes, alcohol has its therapeutic uses, in very moderate consumption).

There will always be the hardliners against any chemical going into the body, and these people are nuts. They often want to have purity in their bodies, doesn't mean they need to push that stance on others. Live free and let live.
But ultimately, the decision to judge someone else as too far unstable and in need of help, that is a hard decision to make because you have to observe their lifestyle and habits, and get inside their head to judge their justifications and reasoning. Many moderate marijuana consumption the same way they moderate alcohol, and have similar uses when comparing to others and their chemical of choice. There is a fine line between acceptable and in need of rehab, and pushing one with little evidence is unruly.

 

[coolVariable]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Where the hell did you hear that it is decriminalized in CA?

If you think a state can decriminalize, your knowledge of how laws work is lacking.

GF is right: "People who smoke weed are dumb"

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: destrekor

I want to know the reason you are so against the "recreational use of an intoxicant."

being intoxicated is an immoral and disgusting practice.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: destrekor

I want to know the reason you are so against the "recreational use of an intoxicant."

being intoxicated is an immoral and disgusting practice.

:roll:
WTF does it mean to be immoral? Please, do tell.

These immoral things have lasted thousands of years of regular use in many/most/all societies (depending on the intoxicant), with only a handful of civilizations creating new morals based on the concepts of extreme religious fanaticism, the same fanaticism that led to the murdering of thousands of innocents in the persecution of witches. Please tell me the same immorality that led to the burning of witches isn't the same concept of immorality you have stuck so far up your ass. Please.

edit:
With that said, keep your fanatical beliefs to yourself and live the life you see fit. Don't preach it to others and use it to judge others. As while anything "immoral" is surely sinful in your eyes, shouldn't the whole concept of passing judgment on others weigh just as much on your conscience? Hmm, funny how that works.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: destrekor

I want to know the reason you are so against the "recreational use of an intoxicant."

being intoxicated is an immoral and disgusting practice.

:roll:
WTF does it mean to be immoral? Please, do tell.

These immoral things have lasted thousands of years of regular use in many/most/all societies (depending on the intoxicant), with only a handful of civilizations creating new morals based on the concepts of extreme religious fanaticism, the same fanaticism that led to the murdering of thousands of innocents in the persecution of witches. Please tell me the same immorality that led to the burning of witches isn't the same concept of immorality you have stuck so far up your ass. Please.

edit:
With that said, keep your fanatical beliefs to yourself and live the life you see fit. Don't preach it to others and use it to judge others. As while anything "immoral" is surely sinful in your eyes, shouldn't the whole concept of passing judgment on others weigh just as much on your conscience? Hmm, funny how that works.

neither myself nor society as a whole needs to judge a particular to say that a particular act is immoral or undesired and hence pass a law which says you cannot do that act, without recieving some sort of punishment as a deterrant.
Killing, stealing, even conspiring, are all punishable against the law.

Moreover... I myself do not decide what is immoral, as it is clearly defined already before me. therefore, I have not judged, only enforced what is written, both in the laws of our country, and the laws of our bible.

finally, the great commission requires all who accept Christ to go forth and proclaim the gospel to the four corners of the world.

and yet it seems funny to me, that while you can advocate at the top of your voice that lets legalize weed and go get high, but would deny me those same right to voice the of the gospel of jesus christ... you call me the fanatic, but sir you are in the minority.

 

[roboskier]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: destrekor

I want to know the reason you are so against the "recreational use of an intoxicant."

being intoxicated is an immoral and disgusting practice.

:roll:
WTF does it mean to be immoral? Please, do tell.

These immoral things have lasted thousands of years of regular use in many/most/all societies (depending on the intoxicant), with only a handful of civilizations creating new morals based on the concepts of extreme religious fanaticism, the same fanaticism that led to the murdering of thousands of innocents in the persecution of witches. Please tell me the same immorality that led to the burning of witches isn't the same concept of immorality you have stuck so far up your ass. Please.

edit:
With that said, keep your fanatical beliefs to yourself and live the life you see fit. Don't preach it to others and use it to judge others. As while anything "immoral" is surely sinful in your eyes, shouldn't the whole concept of passing judgment on others weigh just as much on your conscience? Hmm, funny how that works.

neither myself nor society as a whole needs to judge a particular to say that a particular act is immoral or undesired and hence pass a law which says you cannot do that act, without recieving some sort of punishment as a deterrant.
Killing, stealing, even conspiring, are all punishable against the law.

Moreover... I myself do not decide what is immoral, as it is clearly defined already before me. therefore, I have not judged, only enforced what is written, both in the laws of our country, and the laws of our bible.

finally, the great commission requires all who accept Christ to go forth and proclaim the gospel to the four corners of the world.

and yet it seems funny to me, that while you can advocate at the top of your voice that lets legalize weed and go get high, but would deny me those same right to voice the of the gospel of jesus christ... you call me the fanatic, but sir you are in the minority.

Holier than thou art.:roll:

You holy rollers both frustrate and scare the shit out of me.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: sao123
neither myself nor society as a whole needs to judge a particular to say that a particular act is immoral or undesired and hence pass a law which says you cannot do that act, without recieving some sort of punishment as a deterrant.
Killing, stealing, even conspiring, are all punishable against the law.

Moreover... I myself do not decide what is immoral, as it is clearly defined already before me. therefore, I have not judged, only enforced what is written, both in the laws of our country, and the laws of our bible.

finally, the great commission requires all who accept Christ to go forth and proclaim the gospel to the four corners of the world.

and yet it seems funny to me, that while you can advocate at the top of your voice that lets legalize weed and go get high, but would deny me those same right to voice the of the gospel of jesus christ... you call me the fanatic, but sir you are in the minority.

On the rather tenuous assumption that you aren't just trolling here...

The underlined, bolded statement above is a total cop-out, utter hogwash. Of course you make your own moral judgments. Disowning responsibility for your own moral code is weaksauce. Either these are your morals that you freely chose or they're not. If they are, fine, own them, don't pass the buck onto some external source. If these aren't your morals then preaching them makes you a hypocrite.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: IGBT
your a doper and you need help. if you feel a need to intoxicate under the guise of "recreation", you need rehab and counseling. Find out why your maturity level is stuck on dizzy.

On the other hand, marijuana is much more environmentally friendly than alcohol. While pot does contribute to air pollution while burning, it requires very little in the way of energy inputs unlike the fermenting and distillation processes used in the manufacture of alcohol. In addition, as pot is currently not taxed, the consumption of pot does not "feed the beast" of big government in the way that heavily taxed alcohol consumption does.

 

[canadageek]

well, only if its outdoor grown marijuana....indoor takes pretty good amounts of electricity.

Also, screw anyone who thinks they can decide what I put in my OWN body.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: sao123
neither myself nor society as a whole needs to judge a particular to say that a particular act is immoral or undesired and hence pass a law which says you cannot do that act, without recieving some sort of punishment as a deterrant.
Killing, stealing, even conspiring, are all punishable against the law.

Moreover... I myself do not decide what is immoral, as it is clearly defined already before me. therefore, I have not judged, only enforced what is written, both in the laws of our country, and the laws of our bible.

finally, the great commission requires all who accept Christ to go forth and proclaim the gospel to the four corners of the world.

and yet it seems funny to me, that while you can advocate at the top of your voice that lets legalize weed and go get high, but would deny me those same right to voice the of the gospel of jesus christ... you call me the fanatic, but sir you are in the minority.

On the rather tenuous assumption that you aren't just trolling here...

The underlined, bolded statement above is a total cop-out, utter hogwash. Of course you make your own moral judgments. Disowning responsibility for your own moral code is weaksauce. Either these are your morals that you freely chose or they're not. If they are, fine, own them, don't pass the buck onto some external source. If these aren't your morals then preaching them makes you a hypocrite.

well let me enlighten you... I didnt write the bible, I uphold it.
Its not a cop-out, its truth.

 

[canadageek]

and I support you choosing your own Moral Code, even if I don't agree with it. That is the great thing about living in a free society. However, I don't agree with others deciding my morals for me.