Survivor: Samoa

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her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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Yep. There was Russell, and then there were a lot of weak-minded people. And that's what you get when you have a lot of weak-minded people.

Jaison even suggested he should have been made aware in advance before he got booted, lol.
I think Russell could have secured Jaison's jury vote if he told Jaison that he was going home.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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I think Russell could have secured Jaison's jury vote if he told Jaison that he was going home.

I don't see how that should even come into play. If people get told they are going home, then they can scramble up until the last minute and change things up by working last minute deals with others.

Russell made deals with people even knowing they were getting booted to try and stop their scrambling with others. That's cowardly to hold an excellent strategy against someone like that.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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I wonder if erik didn't stand up and say he was voting for nat would so many of the others have still gone that way.
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
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I wonder if erik didn't stand up and say he was voting for nat would so many of the others have still gone that way.

I am sure it was conversed outside of the show who they voted for.

side question : did they wait x amount of days to fly back to hollywood to air that last episode and count votes??
 

her209

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Oct 11, 2000
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side question : did they wait x amount of days to fly back to hollywood to air that last episode and count votes??
Yes, they wait until the live show to count the votes (in front of everybody at least), but the jury voting happens on day 39.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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They may have talked, but I'd guess most are usually waiting to decide going into the final jury.


The seasons are generally filmed approximately a season in advance. So what we just watched ended during the summer and the hero/villain stuff probably just ended being taped.
 

911paramedic

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Jan 7, 2002
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"Here, I brought you a new pair of socks...but you're not getting them either."
/tosses into fire

Priceless.
 

ViviTheMage

Lifer
Dec 12, 2002
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Yes, they wait until the live show to count the votes (in front of everybody at least), but the jury voting happens on day 39.

Yeah, I know the voting is done at the location, then transferred, but how much time is in between that and airing live for the actual count of votes?

"Here, I brought you a new pair of socks...but you're not getting them either."
/tosses into fire

Priceless.

That was awesome, haha.
 

Zedtom

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Nov 23, 2001
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Russell just didn't understand that even though it's just a game, the idea of being on a team means that there has to be a certain amount of assumed trust with your fellow teammates. The idea of "going rogue" and saying "to hell with my team- I'm in this for my own glory", is what makes the jury turn against you.

I think Erik's speech made Natalie the winner. Russell's bragging of being rich and not really needing the money was a big laugh when he seemed to be whining in the studio that he gotten screwed.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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seasons are generally filmed approximately a season in advance. So what we just watched ended during the summer and the hero/villain stuff probably just ended being taped.

i'm curious about this too, since russel was at the live show last night.

did they already film the 20th season? i'm almost 100% positive they 20th season in the fall, because when i filled out the application it said they were filmiing seasons 19 and 20 in the summer and fall respectively.
 

Spineshank

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i'm curious about this too, since russel was at the live show last night.

did they already film the 20th season? i'm almost 100% positive they 20th season in the fall, because when i filled out the application it said they were filmiing seasons 19 and 20 in the summer and fall respectively.

Yes, season 20 is done filming.


Last nights show was not live.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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Source? I would think CBS would get in trouble for claiming that a non-live show was live.

That's my take on it.

Also...looks like Russell didn't win either or else he wouldn't have felt the need to try and pay Natalie so much money for the 'title' of having won.
 

kalrith

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Aug 22, 2005
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Also...looks like Russell didn't win either or else he wouldn't have felt the need to try and pay Natalie so much money for the 'title' of having won.

True. Since the survivors from next season could've seen part of this season (depending on when filming started), they'd be fools to not vote Russell out after seeing how smart of a player he is.
 

her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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That's my take on it.

Also...looks like Russell didn't win either or else he wouldn't have felt the need to try and pay Natalie so much money for the 'title' of having won.
That's my guess as well.
 

her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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Did anyone else get thrown off by Brett's "brodate" question? That was funny as shit.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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I'm surprised at how many of you think Russel should have won. Other than finding idols, all he did was lie, he stabbed every other player in the back, and mocked them on camera for being stupid enough to listen to him. How he could have expected the other players to reward him for being a snake is beyond me. He never picked up on the fact that the people he was screwing over were the same people that award the money. The Blond chick out played him, she let him make all the bold moves while she made friends, and it paid off to the tune of a million bucks.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
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I'm surprised at how many of you think Russel should have won. Other than finding idols, all he did was lie, he stabbed every other player in the back, and mocked them on camera for being stupid enough to listen to him. How he could have expected the other players to reward him for being a snake is beyond me. He never picked up on the fact that the people he was screwing over were the same people that award the money. The Blond chick out played him, she let him make all the bold moves while she made friends, and it paid off to the tune of a million bucks.

Russell started out the game making bold predictions being cocky and condescending about everyone. Most everyone hated him (viewers that is.)

However he won viewers over imo (incl. me) when he backed just about every one of those up. He mastered the game like he said he could, showed how inept strategically everyone else was, and he made it to the final like he said he would.

He unfortunately didn't back up winning tho, and even tho dominating everyone else may not have been popular, I think if he made a different choice for who he took to the final, and had a better speech, he would have won. Not to mention, he worked extremely hard while others did yoga, etc., lol.

The only one Natalie outplayed was the rat, and that was luck because it was one of the few living species around more stupid than she was. She won mostly because of luck, which is important to have in the game......but she was the least bad choice in some people's eyes and that's unfortunate.
 
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her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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The only one Natalie outplayed was the rat, and that was luck because it was one of the few living species around more stupid than she was. She won mostly because of luck, which is important to have in the game......but she was the least bad choice in some people's eyes and that's unfortunate.
I thought Russell was going to win going into the final Tribal Council vote. Then he got all cocky and reminded everyone why he shouldn't win.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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Russell started out the game making bold predictions being cocky and condescending about everyone. Most everyone hated him (viewers that is.)

However he won viewers over imo (incl. me) when he backed just about every one of those up. He mastered the game like he said he could, showed how inept strategically everyone else was, and he made it to the final like he said he would.

He unfortunately didn't back up winning tho, and even tho dominating everyone else may not have been popular, I think if he made a different choice for who he took to the final, and had a better speech, he would have won. Not to mention, he worked extremely hard while others did yoga, etc., lol.

The only one Natalie outplayed was the rat, and that was luck because it was one of the few living species around more stupid than she was. She won mostly because of luck, which is important to have in the game......but she was the least bad choice in some people's eyes and that's unfortunate.

I have to disagree, Russel only won half the game. Yes, he pretty much controlled who went home and who stayed, but he did it in such a way that the jury hated him. Everyone thinks Natalie was nothing but an airhead blond, but the fact remains that she made it to the end, she didn't lie to everyone else in the game, and she walked away with a million bucks. Russel was outplayed no matter how you cut it.
 

GrumpyMan

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May 14, 2001
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She played it the only way she could win it. Russel was her pit bull dog which had all the anger and slyness to make everyone else go away. She was his trophy "friend". She knew this right off the bat. Of course on the final vote everyone remembered him as being the pit bull and the "innocent" dumb blonde was never really a threat.
She is actually very smart on how she played Russell if you ask me and deserved the million. He doesn't even know what hit him. A lot of men are so dumb concerning good looking women, gotta watch out for 'em because some of them aren't so dumb.
 
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suzyque

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Dec 21, 2009
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Has anyone heard anything about Russell NOT being a rich oil man and it all is just a con?
 

FoBoT

No Lifer
Apr 30, 2001
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just watched the DVR

WORST ENDING OF THE BEST SEASON

i hate juries, they only vote against whoever they hate
juries always talk about honesty in their little speeches, what makes people think survivor is about honesty the second they get voted onto the jury

russell got jipped
 
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