Tale of computer building skills

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

jhansman

Platinum Member
Feb 5, 2004
2,768
29
91
That's mostly what I do, but I don't spread it with a ruler. I put down several drops, put the heatsink on, twist a little, then clamp it down.

Amen. That's how I did my 1090T with the CM 212, and it never gets above 52 C, even when using all six cores to recode video.
 

Doppel

Lifer
Feb 5, 2011
13,306
3
0
Alright that's sarcasm. I recently worked on a computer that belonged to a friend. He spent $2000 on a college budget
What a f-tard. I wouldn't spend $2k now on a computer and I have a job. People like him are going to enjoy paying down their college debt later.
 

Lean L

Diamond Member
Apr 30, 2009
3,685
0
0
What a f-tard. I wouldn't spend $2k now on a computer and I have a job. People like him are going to enjoy paying down their college debt later.

Lol don't get me started. This is one of my closest friends and I tell him all the time how shitty his spending habits are... he just says he would rather pay then have to put up with inconvenience. This guy will complain about having to walk half a block to a parking spot and then blame me for parking so far away. This has to be genetics... some people are just like this. Can't really fault him but I'd keep my computers and finances far away from him.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
41,596
19
81
Have you tried Speedfan? Before I moved my tower into the other room that program was very handy. I'll open it now to see what my temps are...
</img>
And I also haven't been doing much overclocking in years, so haven't been looking too hard.

Speedfan says 41-48C for Cores 0-4, ~23% CPU usage (video playing).
 

jteef

Golden Member
Feb 20, 2001
1,355
0
76
thermal compound should be as thin as possible. it's entire purpose is to fill the microscopic valleys/separations in the interface between the heatsink and cpu. the maximum pc photo is accurate.

I put a dot about that size, smear it around the metal with my finger, then lightly drag a flat surface across the top. The surface should have just enough to look 'wet' without having any areas scraped dry.
 

allenk09

Senior member
Jan 22, 2012
366
0
0
I use Artic Silver's instructions on their website for dual/quad core cpu's. for single core and bare core, i apply a little and spread it evenly with something clean and plastic.

When I applied the pea sized method, I dropped 5c. I think having the heatsink spread it rather than having you spread it, allows it to flow into all the tiny microscopic imperfections better. It worked for a 5C drop coming from spreading it out evenly across the entire processor...but I'm no scientist.
 

DominionSeraph

Diamond Member
Jul 22, 2009
8,386
32
91
lol, windows xp? doesnt matter how many tasks you have running, you still fail.

<---- MFW

XP is stable, fast as hell, and ultra-compatible. I don't need a new rig as I've got one hell of a backlog of legacy games to clear before I'd care about anything modern. (last game finished was The Witcher. Currently on KOTOR.) Windows 7 will do nothing for my current rig but slow it down and break the games I want to play. 7 is a Fischer Price OS and can barely compete with a standard install of XP, never mind a tweaked one. I used Vista for over a year, I've played with 7 installs, and so I know for a fact that I can't do a damned thing with either of them. I'd need to double my hardware specs to get them to run like I have my XP running.
I don't have the hardware that needs a 64 bit OS nor a usage pattern that would really benefit from superfetch. The security model of 7 won't do much for me -- most vulnerabilities still allow free access to the user space and the user space is the only thing I care about. So 7 would have no upside, and it breaking compatibility means it has a rather large downside, which makes spending $100 on the thing a total waste of money.
 

Murloc

Diamond Member
Jun 24, 2008
5,382
65
91
<---- MFW

XP is stable, fast as hell, and ultra-compatible. I don't need a new rig as I've got one hell of a backlog of legacy games to clear before I'd care about anything modern. (last game finished was The Witcher. Currently on KOTOR.) Windows 7 will do nothing for my current rig but slow it down and break the games I want to play. 7 is a Fischer Price OS and can barely compete with a standard install of XP, never mind a tweaked one. I used Vista for over a year, I've played with 7 installs, and so I know for a fact that I can't do a damned thing with either of them. I'd need to double my hardware specs to get them to run like I have my XP running.
I don't have the hardware that needs a 64 bit OS nor a usage pattern that would really benefit from superfetch. The security model of 7 won't do much for me -- most vulnerabilities still allow free access to the user space and the user space is the only thing I care about. So 7 would have no upside, and it breaking compatibility means it has a rather large downside, which makes spending $100 on the thing a total waste of money.
if you're retrogaming then okay.
But except for software compatibility, there is no justification imho. If a computer is good enough for the witcher, it's good enough for w7.
Also the better interface alone is enough of a reason to me. I really waste half the time with the w7 interface.

I don't know how OP can live with a friend like that. I mean, I can't but think that that behaviour spreads to personality too, and negatively impacts relations. You know, whining and stuff.
 

Joseph F

Diamond Member
Jul 12, 2010
3,522
2
0
<---- MFW

XP is stable, fast as hell, and ultra-compatible. I don't need a new rig as I've got one hell of a backlog of legacy games to clear before I'd care about anything modern. (last game finished was The Witcher. Currently on KOTOR.) Windows 7 will do nothing for my current rig but slow it down and break the games I want to play. 7 is a Fischer Price OS and can barely compete with a standard install of XP, never mind a tweaked one. I used Vista for over a year, I've played with 7 installs, and so I know for a fact that I can't do a damned thing with either of them. I'd need to double my hardware specs to get them to run like I have my XP running.
I don't have the hardware that needs a 64 bit OS nor a usage pattern that would really benefit from superfetch. The security model of 7 won't do much for me -- most vulnerabilities still allow free access to the user space and the user space is the only thing I care about. So 7 would have no upside, and it breaking compatibility means it has a rather large downside, which makes spending $100 on the thing a total waste of money.

I wish XP had DX11. If it did, I would have never switched to 7.
 
Last edited:

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
69,761
13,362
126
www.betteroff.ca
lol the very first thing I do when I turn a built computer for the first time is load up the bios screen monitor and check the temps for 5-10 minutes, before I even start installing the OS. New case, new internals, etc... no idea what heat/cooling is going to be like until I check. Sounds like he failed to do that primary check before continuing on.

Funny thing is the stock heat sink always has a "pad" on it that acts as thermal paste. Peal and stick, it's so easy! lol
 

Lean L

Diamond Member
Apr 30, 2009
3,685
0
0
I don't know how OP can live with a friend like that. I mean, I can't but think that that behaviour spreads to personality too, and negatively impacts relations. You know, whining and stuff.

He's a great guy. Every once in a while I have a moment when I want to kill him but that's a good friendship for ya. He does well with others in general.

Also keep in mind that most AT posters are probably more logical and the rest of the population is likely to be slightly more whiny in comparison.
 

DominionSeraph

Diamond Member
Jul 22, 2009
8,386
32
91
But except for software compatibility, there is no justification imho. If a computer is good enough for the witcher, it's good enough for w7.

For a regular install I'd agree. The difference is negligible. But after I get done tweaking, XP is head and shoulders above 7.
 

TakeNoPrisoners

Platinum Member
Jun 3, 2011
2,599
1
81
This thread makes me think some people shouldn't be allowed to touch the inside of a computer.

I've never seen people fuck something up as bad as the stories in this thread.
 

mobobuff

Lifer
Apr 5, 2004
11,099
1
81
lol the very first thing I do when I turn a built computer for the first time is load up the bios screen monitor and check the temps for 5-10 minutes, before I even start installing the OS. New case, new internals, etc... no idea what heat/cooling is going to be like until I check. Sounds like he failed to do that primary check before continuing on.

Funny thing is the stock heat sink always has a "pad" on it that acts as thermal paste. Peal and stick, it's so easy! lol

That's always a good idea. With a poorly mounted heatsink the processor doesn't have to be under heavy load to show high temps, checking it in the BIOS before cooking it will save some headaches. This doesn't guarantee that you won't have overheating issues when you're actually putting a load on it though. Sometimes it's not a problem with the thermal paste, but with those cheap ass retention clips. New builders aren't familiar with just how much pressure you really need to get those things to engage, and sometimes they just pop right back out. If your thumbs aren't sore or bleeding, you probably didn't push hard enough.
 

mobobuff

Lifer
Apr 5, 2004
11,099
1
81
And I also haven't been doing much overclocking in years, so haven't been looking too hard.

Speedfan says 41-48C for Cores 0-4, ~23% CPU usage (video playing).

The room my tower is in (my office) I never really go into anymore, so I blocked off the heater register and keep the door closed. It's about 15 degrees colder in there. Nice thing about winters in Michigan, free cold air. In the summer I just keep the fans at full speed, but it's okay because I can't hear it! And they're pretty loud.
 

DominionSeraph

Diamond Member
Jul 22, 2009
8,386
32
91
Sure, enjoy not getting security updates and being stuck on DX 9.

>security updates to OS
And the last time your OS was hacked was... when exactly?

It's Flash and Java that provide the security holes, and those are continually patched.

And none of my games use DX10+. It'll probably be a few years before I'll get to one of those. I'm really in no hurry to play crappy console ports.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
39,053
19,751
146
When I applied the pea sized method, I dropped 5c. I think having the heatsink spread it rather than having you spread it, allows it to flow into all the tiny microscopic imperfections better. It worked for a 5C drop coming from spreading it out evenly across the entire processor...but I'm no scientist.

Which type of core are you referring to, I noted two. one with IHS, one bare.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
What the hell? This makes no sense. They'd save money and improve cooling performance just by using 1/10th of that.

they'd lose more money from people using too little though... u know it will happen.

at this point with chips being as cool as they are this is getting ocd unless u overclock to the limit or live in a desert.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
24,558
5,973
136
XP is stable, fast as h**l, and ultra-compatible.

not as stable, fast, or compatible as win 7

7 is a Fischer Price OS and can barely compete with a standard install of XP, never mind a tweaked one.

lol, you obviously dont know how to use the OS features.

I used Vista for over a year, I've played with 7 installs, and so I know for a fact that I can't do a d***ed thing with either of them.

thats your problem, not the OS. they are both much better than xp.

I'd need to double my hardware specs to get them to run like I have my XP running.

doubtful

I don't have the hardware that needs a 64 bit OS nor a usage pattern that would really benefit from superfetch.

so you dont have an ssd? because win 7 is the only windows version that supports TRIM, which is a vital feature. and ssds blow hdds out of the water.

So 7 would have no upside, and it breaking compatibility means it has a rather large downside, which makes spending $100 on the thing a total waste of money.

cool story bro, have fun livin in the past.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |