Tekken 5: $38

Pr0d1gy

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Tekken deserves a bumpski for sure. That game got me through college...sort of...lol
 

serialkiller

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Originally posted by: r0bVious
Woot! From what I've been reading, this is going to be the best Tekken yet ;D


best tekken my bunghole, not to thread crap but I have been a hardcore tekken player since tekken I the original..... I have stopped playing from tekken 4, because they changed the whole layout/engine of the game into a more virta fighter layout/engine. The game is closed to pointless now since the key to being the ultimate tekken 4 & 5 player is to master the art of "jabbing like a mad man." All combos and juggles are combined with the simple use of the jab. Not only that, but all combos and juggles are also interupted easily by the use of this simple jab to a point where its pointless to even use any of the moves.... last time I remember there wasnt much skills involved to jab away at your opponent. Tekken was a good game because it had an ass load of moves that you could choose from to defeat your opponent. Not only that but it took skills to be good since every character had their own personal moves/style which were pretty tricky to master since alot of the combos or power moves can be switched up into either a high,mid or low attack. I just think they should of stayed with the old layout/engine..... Im sure no one cares, but tekken tag imho was the best tekken that ever came out. Good luck in the jab-a-thon contest!
 

Kabob

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I agree, I didn't like Tekken 4 at all. Tag was the best (imho) but maybe I'm just biased...

I've owned Tekken's 2, 3, and tag. Just couldn't get into 4 or 5...
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: serialkiller
best tekken my bunghole, not to thread crap but I have been a hardcore tekken player since tekken I the original..... I have stopped playing from tekken 4, because they changed the whole layout/engine of the game into a more virta fighter layout/engine. The game is closed to pointless now since the key to being the ultimate tekken 4 & 5 player is to master the art of "jabbing like a mad man." All combos and juggles are combined with the simple use of the jab.
You can't be serious about 5. About Tekken 4, you are correct. But T5's combo system seems much more like TTT's again, although there's no tag feature. I agree that T5 has become slightly more VF-ish, but it's still tekken. The biggest change that T5 seems to have added, is the non-infinite playfields, yes, T4 had walls, but T5's walls are.. more deadly. Much more like SF-style "corner traps", if you start to get combo'd against a wall.

Still a few glitches too, but not nearly as bad as T4. T4's greatest sin was that the battle was kind of non-deterministic, there was an element of chance added in there (due to uneven floors, and glitches), that wasn't in TTT. In TTT, it was much more like SF2 - there really wasn't any element of chance in the battle, it was purely strategic, and if you knew what you were doing, you could have the upper hand, and if you started a combo and did it properly, there was no way for them to get out of it. They were at your mercy. (SF games handled that a bit differently, with Parries, Alpha Counters, and Air Escapes, but there was no escape in TTT. I'm still getting used to T5, but it seems that they added more in the way of stances and parries, but very little randomness, the floors in the stages are all mostly level.)

Originally posted by: serialkiller
Not only that, but all combos and juggles are also interupted easily by the use of this simple jab to a point where its pointless to even use any of the moves.... last time I remember there wasnt much skills involved to jab away at your opponent. Tekken was a good game because it had an ass load of moves that you could choose from to defeat your opponent. Not only that but it took skills to be good since every character had their own personal moves/style which were pretty tricky to master since alot of the combos or power moves can be switched up into either a high,mid or low attack. I just think they should of stayed with the old layout/engine..... Im sure no one cares, but tekken tag imho was the best tekken that ever came out. Good luck in the jab-a-thon contest!

I still haven't seen T5 to be a pure jab-a-thon like T4 was, although I think TTT was nearly the best Tekken ever (especially the Tag Combos, they were quite flashy). But to be able to utilize a jab as a defensive move, rather than an offensive move, isn't necesarily a bad thing. It was true in various SF games as well - you could jab E. Honda out of his hundred-hand-slap move, or jab Blanka (if done carefully) out of his electricity move.

I also don't see the move towards a VF-ish style to be a bad thing, I'm also a fairly experienced although not super-high-level VF player, and the VF style of gameplay was a lot more "deep" than Tekken's, and combos weren't so guaranteed, if you knew when to parry/counter at certain "sequence points" to break the combos. VF4 was very deep in that regard. But the style of fighting and their moves, is still pure Tekken.
 

r0bVious

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Originally posted by: serialkiller
Originally posted by: r0bVious
Woot! From what I've been reading, this is going to be the best Tekken yet ;D


best tekken my bunghole, not to thread crap but I have been a hardcore tekken player since tekken I the original..... I have stopped playing from tekken 4, because they changed the whole layout/engine of the game into a more virta fighter layout/engine. The game is closed to pointless now since the key to being the ultimate tekken 4 & 5 player is to master the art of "jabbing like a mad man." All combos and juggles are combined with the simple use of the jab. Not only that, but all combos and juggles are also interupted easily by the use of this simple jab to a point where its pointless to even use any of the moves.... last time I remember there wasnt much skills involved to jab away at your opponent. Tekken was a good game because it had an ass load of moves that you could choose from to defeat your opponent. Not only that but it took skills to be good since every character had their own personal moves/style which were pretty tricky to master since alot of the combos or power moves can be switched up into either a high,mid or low attack. I just think they should of stayed with the old layout/engine..... Im sure no one cares, but tekken tag imho was the best tekken that ever came out. Good luck in the jab-a-thon contest!

Way to do your homework. Tekken 4 was a failure, Tekken 5 is "bringing it home", as many game previews/reviews say.
 

imported_vr6

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i am a hardcore tekken fan, and let me tell you this is not like 4. If you like tag, then you will like tekken 5. i have my own tekken5 card which is like a character profile can build up at the local arcade, but most of you probably won't care anyway. i am definitly recommending this to all tekken players who were turned off by T4. T4 was a blemish, why not give this a try at the local arcade and see for yourselves?
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: vr6
i am definitly recommending this to all tekken players who were turned off by T4. T4 was a blemish, why not give this a try at the local arcade and see for yourselves?
Exactly! This is not your father's Tekken 4.

Indeed, how could it be - Heihachi is dead! Quite possibly the biggest storyline change in the entire series. Btw, the new Jack is a bad-azz. He's not only powerful, but quick as heck too. They've also added some new pop-up/air-throw combos, Hworang and Jack both have something like that, as does Raven, one of the new characters.
 

serialkiller

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From what I felt from playing tekken 5 is the same style as tekken 4(give or take). I tried using a character I was familiar with from the previous tekkens (julia). Every move I tried to pull would not execute properly, and the time that it took to execute the move was very sluggish and laggy. Forward, forward left punch or right punch i forgot in tag was a very quick move that had hardly no wait time to recover.... in tag it seemed like after executing it paused for a moment to where I was not able to execute another move right after it. Maybe my tag playing style just isnt what the newer line of tekken is geared for. I also watched how my opponent played and sure enough all he did was jab away here and there and threw in some lower attacks to confuse me. All in all maybe I will have to get used to the "new" style that tekken 5 offers, or just stick to playing tag. One good thing I will have to add is the whole "plug your own ps2 controller" option... very cool idea... although I can execute moves way faster on the stick. I will give tekken 5 another chance... thats if I can ever make time to actually go out to the arcade and play one round or two. But from what I have seen so far..... its jab-a-thon part II.

Glad to see there are alot of tekken fans out there! Gooooo tekken..... tag that is!! hahahah
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: serialkiller
From what I felt from playing tekken 5 is the same style as tekken 4(give or take). I tried using a character I was familiar with from the previous tekkens (julia). Every move I tried to pull would not execute properly, and the time that it took to execute the move was very sluggish and laggy.
Well.. every new game that they come out with, they "tweak" things, add/change moves, joystick movements, change timings, you have to re-learn the game all over again, nearly. (Also being a huge SF fan, I consider that a slight drawback to Tekken, having to re-learn it again, with SF, once you learn "basic SF skills", you can sit down at nearly any of them and play them. Tekken and MK change the moves on you.)
Originally posted by: serialkiller
Forward, forward left punch or right punch i forgot in tag was a very quick move that had hardly no wait time to recover.... in tag it seemed like after executing it paused for a moment to where I was not able to execute another move right after it. Maybe my tag playing style just isnt what the newer line of tekken is geared for.
You have to learn the "frames" all over again, they do tweak things. While T5 isn't nearly the jab-fest that T4 was, I do slightly agree that those players with mostly faster attacks do have an advantage.
Originally posted by: serialkiller
I also watched how my opponent played and sure enough all he did was jab away here and there and threw in some lower attacks to confuse me.
Sounds like he was a "scrub", just playing a frame- and change-up game. You need to go to some of the gatherings in Philly, Chi-town, Boston, NJ, etc. There's some pretty good players around here. (One of them was so obsessed, he had a "TEKKEN" license plate. Yeah, he's very good. I could still beat him in T4 though, sometimes. Maybe it was the "randomness" of that game.)
Originally posted by: serialkiller
Glad to see there are alot of tekken fans out there! Gooooo tekken..... tag that is!! hahahah
Yeah, I miss the fact that most arcades have removed/destroyed their old arcade TTT machines, I used to play that still, when T4 or SC2 was busy. I could beat the arcade one one-handed, it was kind of fun that way. (Eddy/Panda/Ganryu were all possible to play more-or-less one-handed, at least against the computer and mid-level and below human opponents.) T4 is significantly harder to play one-handed, Christy is alright, but Steve is probably better, because you can still sway defensively and duck/dodge with just the buttons. I've beaten (lower-level) human opponents one-handed in T4 too. But it would be foolish to try that against good human players. (I can play Maxi one-handed in SC and SC2 too, and Voldo somewhat one-handed.)
 

serialkiller

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: serialkiller
From what I felt from playing tekken 5 is the same style as tekken 4(give or take). I tried using a character I was familiar with from the previous tekkens (julia). Every move I tried to pull would not execute properly, and the time that it took to execute the move was very sluggish and laggy.
Well.. every new game that they come out with, they "tweak" things, add/change moves, joystick movements, change timings, you have to re-learn the game all over again, nearly. (Also being a huge SF fan, I consider that a slight drawback to Tekken, having to re-learn it again, with SF, once you learn "basic SF skills", you can sit down at nearly any of them and play them. Tekken and MK change the moves on you.)
Originally posted by: serialkiller
Forward, forward left punch or right punch i forgot in tag was a very quick move that had hardly no wait time to recover.... in tag it seemed like after executing it paused for a moment to where I was not able to execute another move right after it. Maybe my tag playing style just isnt what the newer line of tekken is geared for.
You have to learn the "frames" all over again, they do tweak things. While T5 isn't nearly the jab-fest that T4 was, I do slightly agree that those players with mostly faster attacks do have an advantage.
Originally posted by: serialkiller
I also watched how my opponent played and sure enough all he did was jab away here and there and threw in some lower attacks to confuse me.
Sounds like he was a "scrub", just playing a frame- and change-up game. You need to go to some of the gatherings in Philly, Chi-town, Boston, NJ, etc. There's some pretty good players around here. (One of them was so obsessed, he had a "TEKKEN" license plate. Yeah, he's very good. I could still beat him in T4 though, sometimes. Maybe it was the "randomness" of that game.)
Originally posted by: serialkiller
Glad to see there are alot of tekken fans out there! Gooooo tekken..... tag that is!! hahahah
Yeah, I miss the fact that most arcades have removed/destroyed their old arcade TTT machines, I used to play that still, when T4 or SC2 was busy. I could beat the arcade one one-handed, it was kind of fun that way. (Eddy/Panda/Ganryu were all possible to play more-or-less one-handed, at least against the computer and mid-level and below human opponents.) T4 is significantly harder to play one-handed, Christy is alright, but Steve is probably better, because you can still sway defensively and duck/dodge with just the buttons. I've beaten (lower-level) human opponents one-handed in T4 too. But it would be foolish to try that against good human players. (I can play Maxi one-handed in SC and SC2 too, and Voldo somewhat one-handed.)

TAG RULES!!!!
 

Taejin

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The price listed appears to be 37.99, but the cart displays the price to be 49.99..

Has anyone ordered this? I'm afraid to order.
 

dayg

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Tekken Tag ROCKS! T4 sucks sooooo bad. I'm gonna do wait and see for T5.
 

imported_vr6

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: vr6
i am definitly recommending this to all tekken players who were turned off by T4. T4 was a blemish, why not give this a try at the local arcade and see for yourselves?
Exactly! This is not your father's Tekken 4.

Indeed, how could it be - Heihachi is dead! Quite possibly the biggest storyline change in the entire series. Btw, the new Jack is a bad-azz. He's not only powerful, but quick as heck too. They've also added some new pop-up/air-throw combos, Hworang and Jack both have something like that, as does Raven, one of the new characters.


btw heihachi is NOT dead. hes alive and is the last time released character.
 

imported_vr6

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tekken forum

here is THE tekken website. check out some of the combo movies then you will see the similaries with tag and how its different from T4.
and devil jin kicks ass, but still not a badass like kazuya!
 

serialkiller

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Originally posted by: r0bVious
Originally posted by: serialkiller
Originally posted by: Taejin
No one?


No ones buying it because it sux so bad... hehehe.. jk

Please go away or something. No one finds your pessimism funny.


Lighten up dude, its a joke... you see the hehehehe and the jk in the sentence? Got humor?

By the way, from reading all your posts you haven't even played the game it seems like. All you have done is did some research online to take other peoples quotes about how good the game is..... you might want to play the game first if you haven't, before putting in opinions.

 
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