Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
You know the biggest irony of it all athithi, Sultan claims that a Fundamentalist government is a viable form of government and that democracy is not the best form of government. I wonder why he chooses to live in the United States and not under a dictator or in an Islamic country... afterall, they are, according to him,'successful' states.
I dare you, Sultan, to goto China and start posting on these message boards that Chinese Communist model sucks or to congregate in a mosque to pray on a regular basis out in the open. The very freedoms that you are taking for granted right now are being denied in some of your 'favorite' forms of government.
Its not as bad as you think, imo its better than democracy.
My whole family is moving to Saudi Arabia.....does that count? They are a fundamentalist government and I can't wait to go.
good riddance
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
You know the biggest irony of it all athithi, Sultan claims that a Fundamentalist government is a viable form of government and that democracy is not the best form of government. I wonder why he chooses to live in the United States and not under a dictator or in an Islamic country... afterall, they are, according to him,'successful' states.
I dare you, Sultan, to goto China and start posting on these message boards that Chinese Communist model sucks or to congregate in a mosque to pray on a regular basis out in the open. The very freedoms that you are taking for granted right now are being denied in some of your 'favorite' forms of government.
Its not as bad as you think, imo its better than democracy.
My whole family is moving to Saudi Arabia.....does that count? They are a fundamentalist government and I can't wait to go.
good riddance
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
You know the biggest irony of it all athithi, Sultan claims that a Fundamentalist government is a viable form of government and that democracy is not the best form of government. I wonder why he chooses to live in the United States and not under a dictator or in an Islamic country... afterall, they are, according to him,'successful' states.
I dare you, Sultan, to goto China and start posting on these message boards that Chinese Communist model sucks or to congregate in a mosque to pray on a regular basis out in the open. The very freedoms that you are taking for granted right now are being denied in some of your 'favorite' forms of government.
Its not as bad as you think, imo its better than democracy.
My whole family is moving to Saudi Arabia.....does that count? They are a fundamentalist government and I can't wait to go.
good riddance
:laugh:
I can't believe that people think that these hell hole fundamentalist countries are any good. Even funnier is how some people seem to think that these religious governments can be any good if they're based on barbaric foundations.
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
You know the biggest irony of it all athithi, Sultan claims that a Fundamentalist government is a viable form of government and that democracy is not the best form of government. I wonder why he chooses to live in the United States and not under a dictator or in an Islamic country... afterall, they are, according to him,'successful' states.
I dare you, Sultan, to goto China and start posting on these message boards that Chinese Communist model sucks or to congregate in a mosque to pray on a regular basis out in the open. The very freedoms that you are taking for granted right now are being denied in some of your 'favorite' forms of government.
Its not as bad as you think, imo its better than democracy.
My whole family is moving to Saudi Arabia.....does that count? They are a fundamentalist government and I can't wait to go.
good riddance
:laugh:
I can't believe that people think that these hell hole fundamentalist countries are any good. Even funnier is how some people seem to think that these religious governments can be any good if they're based on barbaric foundations.
My Dad had to work in Saudi for a few years and oh boy the horror stories he used to tell me.. the constant harassment by the local authorities once they found out he wasn't "one of them", the constant sound of loud prayers, the public executions... the culture over there is... how do I put this without offending anyone... very closed minded. They seriously look down on anyone if they aren't their own.... it doesn't surprise me that most of the terrorists come from there.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
You are part of what they consider the superior race and religion there. They execute, torture, genocide, etc. undesirables there.
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
You are part of what they consider the superior race and religion there. They execute, torture, genocide, etc. undesirables there.
Ya I'm saying I didn't see anyone being executed or tortured in public streets.........meh man I wanna go back do another pilgrimage, it was crazy last time 5 million people all there just to Pray to Allah, people from all over the world.
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
Nothing is wrong with praying but to wake up with the loud noise of prayer through a loudspeaker every morning... well that just sucks. I mean, I'm not one to judge, you are obviously Muslim and so it may not be a problem for you but if you aren't, then it gets transformed into a whole other place.
And I'd also like to add that having to live in a free society where you can express views the way you want, practice or not practice religion however you want, having my wife/mother/sister etc be able to walk outside by themselves.. well its something that I personally cherish and wouldn't give up for the world.
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
You are part of what they consider the superior race and religion there. They execute, torture, genocide, etc. undesirables there.
Ya I'm saying I didn't see anyone being executed or tortured in public streets.........meh man I wanna go back do another pilgrimage, it was crazy last time 5 million people all there just to Pray to Allah, people from all over the world.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
_Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's chief propagandist.
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
Nothing is wrong with praying but to wake up with the loud noise of prayer through a loudspeaker every morning... well that just sucks. I mean, I'm not one to judge, you are obviously Muslim and so it may not be a problem for you but if you aren't, then it gets transformed into a whole other place.
And I'd also like to add that having to live in a free society where you can express views the way you want, practice or not practice religion however you want, having my wife/mother/sister etc be able to walk outside by themselves.. well its something that I personally cherish and wouldn't give up for the world.
Difference of opinion I guess.
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
You are part of what they consider the superior race and religion there. They execute, torture, genocide, etc. undesirables there.
Ya I'm saying I didn't see anyone being executed or tortured in public streets.........meh man I wanna go back do another pilgrimage, it was crazy last time 5 million people all there just to Pray to Allah, people from all over the world.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
_Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's chief propagandist.
I'm not sure who you are directing this against, but the first link with a google search on "public executions Saudi Arabia" links you to amnesty international. It is very real.. my Dad has seen it first hand and he has no reason to lie about it.
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
You are part of what they consider the superior race and religion there. They execute, torture, genocide, etc. undesirables there.
Ya I'm saying I didn't see anyone being executed or tortured in public streets.........meh man I wanna go back do another pilgrimage, it was crazy last time 5 million people all there just to Pray to Allah, people from all over the world.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
_Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's chief propagandist.
I'm not sure who you are directing this against, but the first link with a google search on "public executions Saudi Arabia" links you to amnesty international. It is very real.. my Dad has seen it first hand and he has no reason to lie about it.
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
You are part of what they consider the superior race and religion there. They execute, torture, genocide, etc. undesirables there.
Ya I'm saying I didn't see anyone being executed or tortured in public streets.........meh man I wanna go back do another pilgrimage, it was crazy last time 5 million people all there just to Pray to Allah, people from all over the world.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
_Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's chief propagandist.
I'm not sure who you are directing this against, but the first link with a google search on "public executions Saudi Arabia" links you to amnesty international. It is very real.. my Dad has seen it first hand and he has no reason to lie about it.
Meh, if it does happen, then...I say...so? I mean say they are executing someone who did a serious crime like murder, like they do in America, in Saudi Arabia they execute him publicly to make an example of him, while in the States they do it behind closed doors, but it still happens.
I'd rather people learn from his bad example then not see it.
And ya...i don't get what he was doing with that quote.
:QSaudi Arabia has one of the highest rates of executions in the world in both absolute numbers and per capita. The death penalty applies to a wide range of non-violent activities such as apostasy and "witchcraft", "sexual offences", acts deemed to amount to "corruption on earth", and crimes such as drug dealing.
More than 1,100 people have been executed in the past 20 years, according to reports received by Amnesty International, although the true total is probably far higher. It is almost certain that all were sentenced to death after secret and summary hearings and with no meaningful appeal
Often, the first warning prisoners have of their imminent execution is when they are taken out of their cell in handcuffs on a Friday, the day executions are normally carried out. They are taken to a public square, blindfolded and forced to kneel. The executioner raises a sword, then brings the blade down across the prisoner's neck. Sometimes more than one stroke is needed to sever the head. A doctor certifies that the prisoner is dead, then the body and head are removed and buried.
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Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Saudi Arabia has one of the highest rates of executions in the world in both absolute numbers and per capita. The death penalty applies to a wide range of non-violent activities such as apostasy and "witchcraft", "sexual offences", acts deemed to amount to "corruption on earth", and crimes such as drug dealing.
More than 1,100 people have been executed in the past 20 years, according to reports received by Amnesty International, although the true total is probably far higher. It is almost certain that all were sentenced to death after secret and summary hearings and with no meaningful appeal
Often, the first warning prisoners have of their imminent execution is when they are taken out of their cell in handcuffs on a Friday, the day executions are normally carried out. They are taken to a public square, blindfolded and forced to kneel. The executioner raises a sword, then brings the blade down across the prisoner's neck. Sometimes more than one stroke is needed to sever the head. A doctor certifies that the prisoner is dead, then the body and head are removed and buried.
They sure like to assume a lot don't they?
As for the rest of it..........and?
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Saudi Arabia has one of the highest rates of executions in the world in both absolute numbers and per capita. The death penalty applies to a wide range of non-violent activities such as apostasy and "witchcraft", "sexual offences", acts deemed to amount to "corruption on earth", and crimes such as drug dealing.
More than 1,100 people have been executed in the past 20 years, according to reports received by Amnesty International, although the true total is probably far higher. It is almost certain that all were sentenced to death after secret and summary hearings and with no meaningful appeal
Often, the first warning prisoners have of their imminent execution is when they are taken out of their cell in handcuffs on a Friday, the day executions are normally carried out. They are taken to a public square, blindfolded and forced to kneel. The executioner raises a sword, then brings the blade down across the prisoner's neck. Sometimes more than one stroke is needed to sever the head. A doctor certifies that the prisoner is dead, then the body and head are removed and buried.
They sure like to assume a lot don't they?
As for the rest of it..........and?
Wow.. you are now just being ignorant arent you?
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Saudi Arabia has one of the highest rates of executions in the world in both absolute numbers and per capita. The death penalty applies to a wide range of non-violent activities such as apostasy and "witchcraft", "sexual offences", acts deemed to amount to "corruption on earth", and crimes such as drug dealing.
More than 1,100 people have been executed in the past 20 years, according to reports received by Amnesty International, although the true total is probably far higher. It is almost certain that all were sentenced to death after secret and summary hearings and with no meaningful appeal
Often, the first warning prisoners have of their imminent execution is when they are taken out of their cell in handcuffs on a Friday, the day executions are normally carried out. They are taken to a public square, blindfolded and forced to kneel. The executioner raises a sword, then brings the blade down across the prisoner's neck. Sometimes more than one stroke is needed to sever the head. A doctor certifies that the prisoner is dead, then the body and head are removed and buried.
They sure like to assume a lot don't they?
As for the rest of it..........and?
Wow.. you are now just being ignorant arent you?
What do you expect of someone who believes in such barbaric customs?
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Saudi Arabia has one of the highest rates of executions in the world in both absolute numbers and per capita. The death penalty applies to a wide range of non-violent activities such as apostasy and "witchcraft", "sexual offences", acts deemed to amount to "corruption on earth", and crimes such as drug dealing.
More than 1,100 people have been executed in the past 20 years, according to reports received by Amnesty International, although the true total is probably far higher. It is almost certain that all were sentenced to death after secret and summary hearings and with no meaningful appeal
Often, the first warning prisoners have of their imminent execution is when they are taken out of their cell in handcuffs on a Friday, the day executions are normally carried out. They are taken to a public square, blindfolded and forced to kneel. The executioner raises a sword, then brings the blade down across the prisoner's neck. Sometimes more than one stroke is needed to sever the head. A doctor certifies that the prisoner is dead, then the body and head are removed and buried.
They sure like to assume a lot don't they?
As for the rest of it..........and?
Wow.. you are now just being ignorant arent you? Please do show me
WTH is wrong with you? Did you not read the quote, here let me highlight it for you again:Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Saudi Arabia has one of the highest rates of executions in the world in both absolute numbers and per capita. The death penalty applies to a wide range of non-violent activities such as apostasy and "witchcraft", "sexual offences", acts deemed to amount to "corruption on earth", and crimes such as drug dealing.
More than 1,100 people have been executed in the past 20 years, according to reports received by Amnesty International, although the true total is probably far higher. It is almost certain that all were sentenced to death after secret and summary hearings and with no meaningful appeal
Often, the first warning prisoners have of their imminent execution is when they are taken out of their cell in handcuffs on a Friday, the day executions are normally carried out. They are taken to a public square, blindfolded and forced to kneel. The executioner raises a sword, then brings the blade down across the prisoner's neck. Sometimes more than one stroke is needed to sever the head. A doctor certifies that the prisoner is dead, then the body and head are removed and buried.
They sure like to assume a lot don't they?
As for the rest of it..........and?
Wow.. you are now just being ignorant arent you? Please do show me
Ya and? :S
Other than the assumptions they made....nothing is wrong with everything else. I don't know what you want.
Saudi Arabia has one of the highest rates of executions in the world in both absolute numbers and per capita. The death penalty applies to a wide range of non-violent activities such as apostasy and "witchcraft", "sexual offences", acts deemed to amount to "corruption on earth", and crimes such as drug dealing.
Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
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Their is A HUGE difference and to not see it is clearly ignorant.. ITS CALLED DUE PROCESS! Look it up sometime will ya??
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
You are part of what they consider the superior race and religion there. They execute, torture, genocide, etc. undesirables there.
Ya I'm saying I didn't see anyone being executed or tortured in public streets.........meh man I wanna go back do another pilgrimage, it was crazy last time 5 million people all there just to Pray to Allah, people from all over the world.
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: mOeeOm
We had a fantastic time there Mecca = amazing, I stayed there for a month(travelled all over Saudi arabia during the pilgrimage) and I didn't see any of those public executions you speak of. Whats wrong with praying? :S
You are part of what they consider the superior race and religion there. They execute, torture, genocide, etc. undesirables there.
Ya I'm saying I didn't see anyone being executed or tortured in public streets.........meh man I wanna go back do another pilgrimage, it was crazy last time 5 million people all there just to Pray to Allah, people from all over the world.
Good. You're one of OBL's disciples. Or at least thats the profile we have been given of a typical OBL disciple.