Tesla Cybertruck

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lxskllr

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Dunno, when I see pic after pic of the axles being broken off, and/or the ct getting hauled up on a rollback, I'm not impressed. None of that shit matters if it can't do what it says on the box, which is be a truck. It literally does nothing better than even bottomest end 84 Chevy, aside from going fast, and trucks don't need to go fast.

 

bbhaag

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Whatever bro......You asked about the tech then shit on it when you got an answer you didn't like.
 
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Kaido

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The tech underpinning the CT is pretty cool.

First on the list is the 48v architecture which is an automotive industry first. The last time the industry went from 6v to 12v was over 70 years ago. Automobiles have advanced a lot since then and a 48v architecture just makes sense.

Second is the steer by wire. Also an automotive industry first in mass production vehicle. Not only is the CT steer by wire but it also has four wheel steering. That is pretty fucking cool on a truck.

Third is the 4860 Gen 2 batteries. These batteries are designed, engineered, and manufactured in house by Tesla. This is another automotive industry first. All other manufacturers rely on third party partners to design, engineer, and manufacture their batteries.

Fourth and probably the one you care about the least about is its performance. The rear motors on the CT are induction motors versus the industry standard permanent magnet motors. The rears motors were designed, engineered, and are manufactured by Tesla. Yet another automotive industry first.

Anyway, these are just a few of the technology advances hidden underneath the skin of the CT. I know you don't do YT but Jason Camissa did an awesome video about the CT around a year ago. He is hands down one of the best automotive journalists.

From a purely automotive engineering perspective the exterior and CEO is the least outrageous part about the CT.

It's really phenomenal technology wrapped in an "unappealing to the masses" package & then KO'd by the CEO's political forays.

I think it stood a chance before the DOGE stuff at $40k & maybe even $60k, but I LOL'd when they sent the $100k price in the pre-order email.

Lucid already technically cracked the 500-mile EV barrier:


I'm just not interested in a sedan. What I'd love is a 500+ mile EV Minivan, like take the VW Bus & put a mega battery in it!
 

GodisanAtheist

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It's really phenomenal technology wrapped in an "unappealing to the masses" package & then KO'd by the CEO's political forays.

I think it stood a chance before the DOGE stuff at $40k & maybe even $60k, but I LOL'd when they sent the $100k price in the pre-order email.

Lucid already technically cracked the 500-mile EV barrier:


I'm just not interested in a sedan. What I'd love is a 500+ mile EV Minivan, like take the VW Bus & put a mega battery in it!

-Maybe it's my own ignorance at play here, but none of the tech sounds phenomenal or revolutionary or anything. Feels like it's being oversold on hype more than anything.

It really just looks like Musk/Tesla had the will (and a lot of investor money bought with wild promises) to actually implement fairly practical changes that other auto companies making "boring" cars did not have the flexibility to do.

Now we see that the same "go fast break stuff" mentality that allowed the CT changes to happen also allowed the company as a whole to get stuck with this albatross of a CEO around it's neck.
 

Kaido

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-Maybe it's my own ignorance at play here, but none of the tech sounds phenomenal or revolutionary or anything. Feels like it's being oversold on hype more than anything.

It really just looks like Musk/Tesla had the will (and a lot of investor money bought with wild promises) to actually implement fairly practical changes that other auto companies making "boring" cars did not have the flexibility to do.

Now we see that the same "go fast break stuff" mentality that allowed the CT changes to happen also allowed the company as a whole to get stuck with this albatross of a CEO around it's neck.

I mean, everything everywhere is evolutionary by nature & by design, but it's really neat to see bold changes in action:


 

LurchFrinky

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It's really phenomenal technology wrapped in an "unappealing to the masses" package & then KO'd by the CEO's political forays.
I personally think phenomenal is a little too strong. I can agree with revolutionary or cutting edge though.
And I think "unappealing to the masses" is just completely missing the depth of the quality and design failings.
I will start by saying "the devil is in the details," because other cars have successfully used a stainless steel exterior or an aluminum frame, but these are some of the biggest problems with the CT. They spent so much effort on the technological aspects that they completely lost sight of the overall package. The CT isn't much more than a technology demonstrator at this point.
What is it supposed to be? It doesn't have to fit into any pre-defined category either, but it should be marketed to somebody for some purpose. Is it supposed to be a pick-up truck, a street racer, a long-range road tripper, an off-road master, or a post-apocalyptic survival vehicle? Because it really fails at all of them individually. The only thing it succeeds at is mashing all of that together so it can claim to be the fastest, post-apocalyptic, off-road pick-up truck - because it is the only thing in that category.
And the problem with this is that the owners don't know what they are supposed to do with it and they end up breaking it by trying to rock crawl, or drive in the snow, or ford large puddles, or even driving it on the freeway on a sunny day. These are things that a reasonable person could expect their vehicle to be good or bad at depending on its label or intended purpose, but the CT doesn't have an actual purpose.
And yes, the "driving on the freeway on a sunny day" is a little snarky, but if any part of your vehicle falls off under those conditions then you have quality and/or design issues that are almost unheard of in modern automobile manufacturing.
 

Kaido

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I personally think phenomenal is a little too strong. I can agree with revolutionary or cutting edge though.
And I think "unappealing to the masses" is just completely missing the depth of the quality and design failings.
I will start by saying "the devil is in the details," because other cars have successfully used a stainless steel exterior or an aluminum frame, but these are some of the biggest problems with the CT. They spent so much effort on the technological aspects that they completely lost sight of the overall package. The CT isn't much more than a technology demonstrator at this point.
What is it supposed to be? It doesn't have to fit into any pre-defined category either, but it should be marketed to somebody for some purpose. Is it supposed to be a pick-up truck, a street racer, a long-range road tripper, an off-road master, or a post-apocalyptic survival vehicle? Because it really fails at all of them individually. The only thing it succeeds at is mashing all of that together so it can claim to be the fastest, post-apocalyptic, off-road pick-up truck - because it is the only thing in that category.
And the problem with this is that the owners don't know what they are supposed to do with it and they end up breaking it by trying to rock crawl, or drive in the snow, or ford large puddles, or even driving it on the freeway on a sunny day. These are things that a reasonable person could expect their vehicle to be good or bad at depending on its label or intended purpose, but the CT doesn't have an actual purpose.
And yes, the "driving on the freeway on a sunny day" is a little snarky, but if any part of your vehicle falls off under those conditions then you have quality and/or design issues that are almost unheard of in modern automobile manufacturing.

My guess is:

1. Elon had an idea

2. I'm betting people said "don't do it", but got overridden

3. Could have been cooler!



 

bbhaag

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I saw it yesterday & they lost me at $40,000 lol
Yeah the asking price is steep but at least it comes with a radio and power windows and power locks unlike the Slate.

None of these little trucks matter though because Ford beat everyone to market with the Maverick.
 
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