Tesla Cybertruck

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Kaido

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I don't know what you are arguing. Mechanical backup to an electrical system is a very common practice.

Just explaining the differences in failover system implementation. Very neat technology! Kinda wish it had Crab Walk tho!

 

Kaido

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tesla had the lead in autonomous driving. but their insistence on optical only sensors and no mapping specific roads and letting general ai solve the problems has left them looking like they are now and will be behind waymo and the others. their constant failure to reach FSD when promised and their tendancy to remove features customers have already paid for opens them up to all kinds of lawsuits. same thing goes for the taxi feature.

I judge based off 2 factors:

1. History
2. Currently-available features

As it stands today, from having used it myself, Supervised FSD is incredible in practice, but is nowhere near the capabilities promised on the timeline promised. The stock is still vastly over-priced & subject to constant pump & dump cycles from the PR hype system. Waymo has self-driving cars on the road right now, today, whereas Tesla just cancelled the CT Extended Battery pack (vaporware) & cancelled the Autosteer feature on non-FSD trucks (bait & switch). Regarding self-piloting Tesla cybercabs, as the saying goes, "I'll believe it when I see it" lol.
 

BoomerD

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Having a mechanical backup is a safety feature...MB had SBC which was brake by wire. I had it in my 2006 E350 4Matic. It had its own battery backup. The system proved to be unreliable and MB switched it out. But they extended the warranty on it to 25 years.



Four wheel steering is pretty old too. 1987 Honda Prelude had it.
Some heavy equipment, such as rough terrain cranes and forklifts have had 4 wheel and crab steering going back even farther than that.
 
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sdifox

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Nobody thinks Tesla invented AWS. What they were the first to do was put steer by wire and AWS together which the 2014 Infinity Q50 did not do.
Quadrasteer was steering by wire as well no?

The Quadrasteer system was electronically controlled by two sophisticated microprocessors, enabling it to behave differently depending on vehicle speed and driving mode.
It was particularly useful for those who tow boats, fifth wheels, or other large equipment.
 

bbhaag

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Quadrasteer was steering by wire as well no?

The Quadrasteer system was electronically controlled by two sophisticated microprocessors, enabling it to behave differently depending on vehicle speed and driving mode.
It was particularly useful for those who tow boats, fifth wheels, or other large equipment.
No it was not.
 

sdifox

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Your confusing me bro. First your talking about front axles on a Q50 and now your talking about rear axles on a GMC. Make up you mind.......or just admit I was right.
How is it confusing? Q50 had (not sure if it is still used) SbW on the front axle, GM Quadrasteer had it on the rear axle. Tesla is the first to have both SbW on both axels and AWS in one road legal vehicle.
 
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sdifox

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How does that happen?
 
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Kaido

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How does that happen?

I thought that was the Onion lol, how is that news haha
 

bbhaag

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How is it confusing? Q50 had (not sure if it is still used) SbW on the front axle, GM Quadrasteer had it on the rear axle. Tesla is the first to have both SbW on both axels and AWS in one road legal vehicle.
The confusion was coming from you throwing out the Q50 which is SBW on a front axle vehicle then you brought up Quadrasteer which is a rear axle that is SBW. I was just having a hard time keeping up with you that is all.
 
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