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I blamed Texas governor Rick Perry for the original hospital sending this Ebola patient home without the proper treatment
I blame Thomas Eric Duncan, he should have never lied about being in direct physical contact with someone that had ebola. He should have never boarded a plane to Europe and onward to the US. He could have infected hundreds of people during his travel.
I blame Thomas Eric Duncan, he should have never lied about being in direct physical contact with someone that had ebola. He should have never boarded a plane to Europe and onward to the US. He could have infected hundreds of people during his travel.
What if you come in with Ebola symptoms but turn out not to have it? I'd guess that's going to be most people presenting.At least one state has announced to its hospitals that if any uninsured patients come in with Ebola, Medicaid is going to cover those costs 100%. So, at least in that state, hospitals may seem less prone to dismissing questionable cases and sending patients away. I'm not saying this is necessarily the cause in Texas - that's being blamed on miscommunication. Could someone in such a professional position be that ignorant as to what's going on in Africa that she didn't pass that information on? Heck - look at the reactions in these threads - it would seem that there's a 90% chance that she was scrubbing herself and gargling with bleach as soon as the patient left the office. Is the nurse merely being thrown under the bus? Being used as an excuse for medical malfeasance? (just tossing that out - I have no reason not to believe it wasn't poor communication)
Apparently there is some debate as to whether or not he knew he'd been in contact with it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dallas-ebola-patient-was-one-of-several-victims-in-liberian-town/
The woman he helped was the first local case, was pregnant, and was having abdominal pains.
At any rate, the ER staff in the Dallas hospital should be better at determining Ebola symptoms than a civilian in Liberia would.
Early ebola symptoms are not much different than having the intestinal flu or a stomach virus.
At least one state has announced to its hospitals that if any uninsured patients come in with Ebola, Medicaid is going to cover those costs 100%. So, at least in that state, hospitals may seem less prone to dismissing questionable cases and sending patients away. I'm not saying this is necessarily the cause in Texas - that's being blamed on miscommunication. Could someone in such a professional position be that ignorant as to what's going on in Africa that she didn't pass that information on? Heck - look at the reactions in these threads - it would seem that there's a 90% chance that she was scrubbing herself and gargling with bleach as soon as the patient left the office. Is the nurse merely being thrown under the bus? Being used as an excuse for medical malfeasance? (just tossing that out - I have no reason not to believe it wasn't poor communication)
For the first part, that's very smart. For the second, most people are clueless about everything. Unfortunately, as Hayabusa Rider points out we have an unfortunate tendency to buy a piece of software and declare the problem solved. A piece of software is not an implemented protocol, it's merely one piece of an implemented protocol.At least one state has announced to its hospitals that if any uninsured patients come in with Ebola, Medicaid is going to cover those costs 100%. So, at least in that state, hospitals may seem less prone to dismissing questionable cases and sending patients away. I'm not saying this is necessarily the cause in Texas - that's being blamed on miscommunication. Could someone in such a professional position be that ignorant as to what's going on in Africa that she didn't pass that information on? Heck - look at the reactions in these threads - it would seem that there's a 90% chance that she was scrubbing herself and gargling with bleach as soon as the patient left the office. Is the nurse merely being thrown under the bus? Being used as an excuse for medical malfeasance? (just tossing that out - I have no reason not to believe it wasn't poor communication)
We bill the shit out of 'em.What if you come in with Ebola symptoms but turn out not to have it? I'd guess that's going to be most people presenting.
Will you then get charged?
(for the record I have no idea how or even if you bill people in an American ER)
If you read reports from Africa he did in fact know he was exposed. They are reporting the pregnant lady was in fact his girlfriend and that her brother died the day after she did. His boss and coworkers also reveal he knew he was exposed.
The man is a POS of the first order.
Starting to get nervous...... is this it then? Civilization ender?
If you read reports from Africa he did in fact know he was exposed. They are reporting the pregnant lady was in fact his girlfriend and that her brother died the day after she did. His boss and coworkers also reveal he knew he was exposed.
The man is a POS of the first order.
Starting to get nervous...... is this it then? Civilization ender?
Early ebola symptoms are not much different than having the intestinal flu or a stomach virus.
I'd imagine that stomach conditions aren't particularly unusual in people that have visited West Africa.Except when combined with recent travel to/from one of the areas in W. Africa where the outbreak is occurring. The staff knew of both, and they either ignored it or didn't put it together.
Otherwise, I agree.
I don't see how you can impugn his judgement. Can you honestly say you'd refuse to help a pregnant young woman in dire straits? Maybe he didn't take sensible precautions, but then again, maybe he took every precaution available to him in that situation. Plenty of doctors and nurse actually caring for Ebolla patients in Africa are contracting Ebolla - it's a nasty disease in a dirt poor, backward part of the world.It's amazing the crap that folks like you seem to be willing to accept and spread while you quake with fear waiting for the next outrage to be upset about.
You're willing to accept the most outlandish stories and anonymously impugn a dead man and his family because, why? Because you can? Because you're scared?
Truly pathetic.
The incident happened 4 days before he left. Her brother died a week later, not the next day.
"MONROVIA, Liberia — A man who flew to Dallas and was later found to have the Ebola virus was identified by senior Liberian government officials on Wednesday as Thomas Eric Duncan, a resident of Monrovia in his mid-40s.
Mr. Duncan, the first person to develop symptoms outside Africa during the current epidemic, had direct contact with a woman stricken by Ebola on Sept. 15, just four days before he left Liberia for the United States, the woman’s parents and Mr. Duncan’s neighbors said.
In a pattern often seen here in Monrovia, the Liberian capital, the family of the woman, Marthalene Williams, 19, took her by taxi to a hospital with Mr. Duncan’s help on Sept. 15 after failing to get an ambulance, said her parents, Emmanuel and Amie Williams. She was convulsing and seven months pregnant, they said.
Turned away from a hospital for lack of space in its Ebola treatment ward, the family said it took Ms. Williams back home in the evening, and that she died hours later, around 3 a.m.
Mr. Duncan, who was a family friend and also a tenant in a house owned by the Williams family, rode in the taxi in the front passenger seat while Ms. Williams, her father and her brother, Sonny Boy, shared the back seat, her parents said. Mr. Duncan then helped carry Ms. Williams, who was no longer able to walk, back to the family home that evening, neighbors said."
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/w...overage®ion=Marginalia&pgtype=article&_r=0
The guy may not have had the best judgement in the world. Although he may well have thought her issues were pregnancy related he probably should have at least talked to a doctor afterwards. But this kind of attack is simply disgusting.
lol I applaud your gift for understatement, sir.I'd imagine that stomach conditions aren't particularly unusual in people that have visited West Africa.
The virus doesn't live in the open environment. It lives (to the extent that any virus can be said to be "living") inside the bodies of its hosts - fruit bats, humans, and probably other mammals, where its dark, warm, and moist.Is this virus resistant to cold?
Getting the family to file lawsuits as well.
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And to add, if he had not taken that flight to USA, he would have been another nameless, faceless death in Africa. Just a tiny little part of stats.We all have to go but would Mr. Duncan have ever imagined that he would be discussed by tens of millions on the net, be on the tv worldwide, in newspapers around the world. That he would become one of the most well known name and face in the world. Life can be strange...
I think that a lot of people have been assuming that the high death rate (71% in the current epidemic, according the the latest analysis) of Ebola has been due to the poor medical care available in Africa, and that the death rate would be a lot lower in first-world countries. But now it's being reported that Thomas Eric Duncan has died, despite receiving first-class care in an American hospital.
It's pretty typical for people to engage in "us/them" reasoning in order to psychologically insulate themselves from frightening things that are happening to "that other group." And we in America are doing this right now with respect to Ebola. Obviously, with only only imported cases so far, we're a long way from an Ebola epidemic here in America. But there's still a lot we don't understand about this virus. Let's hope that it's as hard to catch, and as easy to control, as we're being told.