Texas Ebola patient dies

[sportage]

You don't think lack of Medicaid expansion creates an incentive to send indigent ER patients home with as little care as can be legally justified?

It simply boils down to economics and people without healthcare are definitely a burden on hospitals. And hospitals are going under all the time due to economic hardships.

Try going to a doctor with no healthcare insurance, they won't even see you.
The ER must see you, those uninsured, but will not treat the same as someone with insurance.
I'm betting this Ebola victim in Texas has no insurance. Thanks to Rick Perry.

He has a temp of 103, as well as serious internal issues, and was sent home with Tylenol and antibiotics?
No one can be that dense to not see what was really going on here.
No pay, no stay.
Simple healthcare economics, in America.

We know exactly who is to blame for the healthcare disaster in Texas.
And why that hospital just would not take on the financial burden with admitting this guy for observation and care.

Obviously, few here have actually been to the ER with having no insurance.
Especially in Texas.

In time, someone will connect the dots and bring this up in the media, Rick Perry refusing the benefits from Obamacare and thus endangering millions of Texans.
Including this Ebola victim.
And the connection between republican ass-wipe Rick Perry and how hospitals must operate in Texas in order to save money will be brutally clear.
And should Ebola spread to another state because on this one Ebola exposure, you have Rick Perry to thank plain and simple.

 

[massmedia]

Or it could just be that the hospital screwed up terribly

 

[Linux23]

or our screwed up system screwed up terribly?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It simply boils down to economics and people without healthcare are definitely a burden on hospitals. And hospitals are going under all the time due to economic hardships.

Try going to a doctor with no healthcare insurance, they won't even see you.
The ER must see you, those uninsured, but will not treat the same as someone with insurance.
I'm betting this Ebola victim in Texas has no insurance. Thanks to Rick Perry.

He has a temp of 103, as well as serious internal issues, and was sent home with Tylenol and antibiotics?
No one can be that dense to not see what was really going on here.
No pay, no stay.
Simple healthcare economics, in America.

We know exactly who is to blame for the healthcare disaster in Texas.
And why that hospital just would not take on the financial burden with admitting this guy for observation and care.

Obviously, few here have actually been to the ER with having no insurance.
Especially in Texas.

In time, someone will connect the dots and bring this up in the media, Rick Perry refusing the benefits from Obamacare and thus endangering millions of Texans.
Including this Ebola victim.
And the connection between republican ass-wipe Rick Perry and how hospitals must operate in Texas in order to save money will be brutally clear.
And should Ebola spread to another state because on this one Ebola exposure, you have Rick Perry to thank plain and simple.

And if it doesn't spread will you thank RICK PERRY?

Again you've shovelled shit all over in order to get your inane digs in. To your dismay RICK PERRY isn't going to spread THE EBOLAS. I can connect the dots. You don't care anything about this disease nor anyone else as long as you can attack RICK PERRY. A man dies of a serious disease (BTW a fever of 103 doesn't land you in in a bed even in states where RICK PERRY has no influence). But I suppose a death is worth it to you. Bloody parasite.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

or our screwed up system screwed up terribly?

Unfortunately for the RICK PERRY bot, no. As has been pointed out other hospitals are making sure they are prepared so they don't repeat the mistake in TX that RICK PERRY didn't make. Sometimes things suck.

 

[squarecut1]

Tweet from my favorite character, Bunk, in one of the best and most thoughtful shows on tv, The Wire

https://mobile.twitter.com/WendellPierce/status/519890005192224770

 

[WelshBloke]

And if it doesn't spread will you thank RICK PERRY?

That would be an interesting post. I think he'd rather have ebola!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

That would be an interesting post. I think he'd rather have ebola!

We as a people, at least in the US don't really understand how or even what a health care system is. As I've been involved with ours for more years than I care to think about I've a pretty good idea of what many think and want. They want to walk into some place for free, get better and leave in about as long as it took to type this sentence. Since they can't have that they grumble. They want perfection and everything now because everyone knows that water comes from a tap, vegetables from a market and free care from the government. Well no, that's not how it works, but RICKPERRYBOT acts like it's true and preaches that way. RPB as I'll refer to him thinks he knows RICK PERRY is evil and Obama is a demigod and that government has all the answers. Well no. From my perspective which is far better informed by reality, I'd say none have a clue, of all Mr. RPB. He's so up Obama's ass he'll disagree with him to make almost insane attacks against Perry, whom I believe has a fair bit against him, but none of it can rationally be linked to the Ebola incident. Irrationally however that's another thing. It's pretty much the left equivalent of birtherism. A thing must be true however outrageous if it says something bad about the opposition.

 

[Matt1970]

It simply boils down to economics and people without healthcare are definitely a burden on hospitals. And hospitals are going under all the time due to economic hardships.

Try going to a doctor with no healthcare insurance, they won't even see you.
The ER must see you, those uninsured, but will not treat the same as someone with insurance.
I'm betting this Ebola victim in Texas has no insurance. Thanks to Rick Perry.

He has a temp of 103, as well as serious internal issues, and was sent home with Tylenol and antibiotics?
No one can be that dense to not see what was really going on here.
No pay, no stay.
Simple healthcare economics, in America.

We know exactly who is to blame for the healthcare disaster in Texas.
And why that hospital just would not take on the financial burden with admitting this guy for observation and care.

Obviously, few here have actually been to the ER with having no insurance.
Especially in Texas.

In time, someone will connect the dots and bring this up in the media, Rick Perry refusing the benefits from Obamacare and thus endangering millions of Texans.
Including this Ebola victim.
And the connection between republican ass-wipe Rick Perry and how hospitals must operate in Texas in order to save money will be brutally clear.
And should Ebola spread to another state because on this one Ebola exposure, you have Rick Perry to thank plain and simple.

If you think having Medicaid or insurance would have got him a hospital stay, think again. If anything they will push you to go home faster than the doctors will. Insurance companies save money when you go home and doctors will claim it is healthier for you to recover at home.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I'm betting this Ebola victim in Texas has no insurance. Thanks to Rick Perry.

Wow, Rick Perry controls who gets insurance in Liberia?

 

[squarecut1]

Someone texted me this. They said they got it from the net somewhere

More Americans have been dumped by Taylor Swift than have died from ebola

 

[BeeBoop]

Nurse that treated Duncan has Ebola. Was this nurse sucking on his fecal matter? I'm just assuming it's the nurse.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/...-at-dallas-hospital-tests-positive-for-ebola/

 

[dmcowen674]

Someone texted me this. They said they got it from the net somewhere

More Americans have been dumped by Taylor Swift than have died from ebola

Nurse that treated Duncan has Ebola. Was this nurse sucking on his fecal matter? I'm just assuming it's the nurse.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/...-at-dallas-hospital-tests-positive-for-ebola/

While this thing spreads you have nuts like squarecut cracking jokes.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

While this thing spreads you have nuts like squarecut cracking jokes.

Better to have bad jokes than ignorance.

To that I'll add

"Police have ruled out RICK PERRY as a suspect".

It sucks to be this worker. Also we don't know if this was "the nurse who treated Duncan". All we know is that it would have been a worker who had the necessary contact. Maybe that will head off some of the "Yeah well he/she deserved it" remarks.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Better to have bad jokes than ignorance.

To that I'll add

"Police have ruled out RICK PERRY as a suspect".

It sucks to be this worker. Also we don't know if this was "the nurse who treated Duncan". All we know is that it would have been a worker who had the necessary contact. Maybe that will head off some of the "Yeah well he/she deserved it" remarks.

It could be she wasn't properly decontaminated before she removed her protective clothing or didn't follow the proper precautions when removing the protective clothing. Or she could have come in contact with sharps that weren't properly disposed of after use. It's hard to say at this point.

 

[Jaskalas]

Two weeks of treatment by multiple people, and no one is supposed to make a mistake for something they've never really handled before? That's not going to happen.

Time to reset the 21 day clock!

 

[WelshBloke]

Two weeks of treatment by multiple people, and no one is supposed to make a mistake for something they've never really handled before? That's not going to happen.

Time to reset the 21 day clock!

Yeah, I'd hate to have to treat someone while decked out in those suits they are wearing. Its bad enough having to wear a mask and goggles for a few minutes.

 

[sportage]

Second patient in Dallas confirmed Ebola.

Again, thank you Rick Perry.
If Texas did not have so many uninsured, and Duncan could have had health insurance, Duncan would have been admitted to that hospital with the first visit.

Because of Obamacare reforms, governors of states now play a direct role in deciding if that state should accept and cooperate with ACA, or nay.
A direct role.
You can not hide the fact that Rick Perry would not and did not wish to cooperate with ACA.
Try as some may, the facts are the facts.

Duncan could have had affordable health insurance and his chances would have been greatly increased for admittance to any hospital, as well as his chances for survival.
Without insurance, hospitals are simply forced to draw a line as to who is admitted and who is not, given that person has no ability to pay and no health insurance covering costs.

Duncan was only one victim from Rick Perry's lack of concern for the uninsured in Texas.
How many non Ebola victims that have suffered because of Rick Perry? That is hard to tell.
Since millions in Texas are uninsured, the suffering must reach into the thousands.

Duncan had no option for insurance thanks to Rick Perry. Period.
Hard cold fact.
And that boils down to hospitals in desperate economic condition forced to draw a line with providing needed treatment for those uninsured.
Or at worse, refusing to treat altogether.
And as Duncan would later find out the hard way, Tylenol is not acceptable treatment for Ebola.

Rick Perry is directly responsible, DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE, for the economic hardships that hospitals in Texas now suffer.
Simple math.
Uninsured show up at the ER, unable to pay, no insurance to cover charges, and the hospital eats every one of those treatment costs.
The direct connection, the smoking gun, between Rick Perry and his deliberate decision to not cooperate with ACA.

And now we have a second Ebola confirmation in the U.S.
Wish to guess where?
Dallas Texas.

One patient, Mr Duncan, along with his receiving such poor treatment, has directly lead to a second Ebola case in Texas.
And so it begins.
And again, thank you very much Texas governor Rick Perry.

Beginning to see how voting smart can make all the difference?
Duncan would surely had agreed, if he first had a shot for affordable health insurance, and thus hospitals could afford to properly and accurately treat all people that show up in the ER.

Truly a very sad story. And an extremely sad governor for such a large state.
How you vote is the true trickle down theory.
.
.

 

[squarecut1]

While this thing spreads you have nuts like squarecut cracking jokes.

Jon Stewart was talking in his show the other day about the thousands of people that die every year in America due to things like alcohol, drugs, obesity, and so on. And how the media and politicians are obsessed with the two Monsters, Ebola and Terrorism. The number of Americans who have died due to these two terrible Monsters?

Heck it is 100% guaranteed that atleast 30,000 more Americans will kill themselves this year than be killed by ebola. And the next year. And the next.

We are told that ISIS is going to "come here and kill us all". And tens of millions of Americans actually believe that . The ignorance in our society is staggering.

You clearly don't understand how things are done in America to keep people in a constant state of fear, while the real issues are ignored. But perhaps some nuts do. Cheers.

 

[DCal430]

Duncan was not an american, he was visiting the U.S. , the ACA has nothing to do with him.

 

[Genx87]

Second patient in Dallas confirmed Ebola.

Again, thank you Rick Perry.
If Texas did not have so many uninsured, and Duncan could have had health insurance, Duncan would have been admitted to that hospital with the first visit.

Because of Obamacare reforms, governors of states now play a direct role in deciding if that state should accept and cooperate with ACA, or nay.
A direct role.
You can not hide the fact that Rick Perry would not and did not wish to cooperate with ACA.
Try as some may, the facts are the facts.

Duncan could have had affordable health insurance and his chances would have been greatly increased for admittance to any hospital, as well as his chances for survival.
Without insurance, hospitals are simply forced to draw a line as to who is admitted and who is not, given that person has no ability to pay and no health insurance covering costs.

Duncan was only one victim from Rick Perry's lack of concern for the uninsured in Texas.
How many non Ebola victims that have suffered because of Rick Perry? That is hard to tell.
Since millions in Texas are uninsured, the suffering must reach into the thousands.

Duncan had no option for insurance thanks to Rick Perry. Period.
Hard cold fact.
And that boils down to hospitals in desperate economic condition forced to draw a line with providing needed treatment for those uninsured.
Or at worse, refusing to treat altogether.
And as Duncan would later find out the hard way, Tylenol is not acceptable treatment for Ebola.

Rick Perry is directly responsible, DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE, for the economic hardships that hospitals in Texas now suffer.
Simple math.
Uninsured show up at the ER, unable to pay, no insurance to cover charges, and the hospital eats every one of those treatment costs.
The direct connection, the smoking gun, between Rick Perry and his deliberate decision to not cooperate with ACA.

And now we have a second Ebola confirmation in the U.S.
Wish to guess where?
Dallas Texas.

One patient, Mr Duncan, along with his receiving such poor treatment, has directly lead to a second Ebola case in Texas.
And so it begins.
And again, thank you very much Texas governor Rick Perry.

Beginning to see how voting smart can make all the difference?
Duncan would surely had agreed, if he first had a shot for affordable health insurance, and thus hospitals could afford to properly and accurately treat all people that show up in the ER.

Truly a very sad story. And an extremely sad governor for such a large state.
How you vote is the true trickle down theory.
.
.

You are a pathetic clown.

 

[Matt1970]

Second patient in Dallas confirmed Ebola.


Duncan had no option for insurance thanks to Rick Perry. Period.
Hard cold fact.

It's about your facts. Medicaid takes 45 days to process applications. Duncan arrived in Dallas from Liberia on September 20 and sought medical help 5 days later. His application, provided he submitted it the day he got here would have been processed just about now and he would have been sent a letter stating his coverage starting date. There are stories on the net of it taking much longer.

 

[Genx87]

It's about your facts. Medicaid takes 45 days to process applications. Duncan arrived in Dallas from Liberia on September 20 and sought medical help 5 days later. His application, provided he submitted it the day he got here would have been processed just about now and he would have been sent a letter stating his coverage starting date. There are stories on the net of it taking much longer.

The truth is worse than that. Hospitals will provide care before the application is approved. The idea that a lack of medicaid expansion has anything to do with Ebola patients not getting care is a story for morons to believe.

 

[theeedude]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsY2-yi5W74
No matter what you got, Robitussin better handle it

 

[theeedude]

The truth is worse than that. Hospitals will provide care before the application is approved. The idea that a lack of medicaid expansion has anything to do with Ebola patients not getting care is a story for morons to believe.

You have to be a moron to believe that lack of Medicaid expansion had nothing to do with Ebola patients not getting care. You treat patients different if you assume you are getting paid vs if you assume you are taking a loss. Then you do the bare minimum the law requires, which is get the patient stable enough and out the door.
"Hospitals will provide care" but there is a difference between "care" that barely satisfies EMTALA, and discharges you in stable condition, vs care that aims to actually find out what's wrong with you and provide curative treatment. This Republican naivete that ER's are a replacement for universal health insurance is just plain folly.