Texas Ebola patient dies

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It could be she wasn't properly decontaminated before she removed her protective clothing or didn't follow the proper precautions when removing the protective clothing. Or she could have come in contact with sharps that weren't properly disposed of after use. It's hard to say at this point.

It could have been a nurse from the first time he went to the hospital, when they did not know or suspect he had ebola. So no extra precautions. Hope she/he recovers soon.
 

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You have to be a moron to believe that lack of Medicaid expansion had nothing to do with Ebola patients not getting care. You treat patients different if you assume you are getting paid vs if you assume you are taking a loss. Then you do the bare minimum the law requires, which is get the patient stable enough and out the door.
"Hospitals will provide care" but there is a difference between "care" that barely satisfies EMTALA, and discharges you in stable condition, vs care that aims to actually find out what's wrong with you and provide curative treatment. This Republican naivete that ER's are a replacement for universal health insurance is just plain folly.

Again this patient wasn't a resident of the U.S or a U.S Citizen, they were a foreigner visiting the U.S, on a short term VISA. They have nothing to do with medicaid. This would be like a Canadian visiting the U.S, nothing to do with medicaid.
 
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The reports are saying that this second case was due to a "breach in protocol," but there are no specifics about what that means. Do hospitals who will be caring for Ebola patients each have dedicated decontamination rooms, where every square inch of a worker's protective suit is sprayed down with a bleach solution?
 

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Again this patient isn't a resident of the U.S, they are a foreigner visiting the U.S, or a short term VISA. They have nothing to do with medicaid. This would be like a Canadian visiting the U.S, nothing to do with medicaid.

You are living in a fantasy world. It has everything to do with Medicaid, that's what you don't get. If a hospital is overburdened with unreimbursed ER bills, they are going to be getting anyone who is likely to contribute to that burden out the door ASAP, with as little "care" as legally required, which is that they be stable when they leave. They can't afford to fully treat someone first and ask financial questions later.
 
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The reports are saying that this second case was due to a "breach in protocol," but there are no specifics about what that means. Do hospitals who will be caring for Ebola patients each have dedicated decontamination rooms, where every square inch of a worker's protective suit is sprayed down with a bleach solution?

"hospitals who will be caring for Ebola patients" = whatever hospital an Ebola patient decides to go to
 

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You are living in a fantasy world. It has everything to do with Medicaid, that's what you don't get. If a hospital is overburdened with unreimbursed ER bills, they are going to be getting anyone who is likely to contribute to that burden out the door ASAP, with as little "care" as legally required, which is that they be stable when they leave. They can't afford to fully treat someone first and ask financial questions later.

And you are living in a fantasy world if you think you can come to the US and get Medicaid coverage in 5 days.
 

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You are living in a fantasy world. It has everything to do with Medicaid, that's what you don't get. If a hospital is overburdened with unreimbursed ER bills, they are going to be getting anyone who is likely to contribute to that burden out the door ASAP, with as little "care" as legally required, which is that they be stable when they leave. They can't afford to fully treat someone first and ask financial questions later.

That is not true. You can ask medical professionals if you like. The hospitals do not treat the uninsured significantly different when they go to the ER.
 

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That is not true. You can ask medical professionals if you like. The hospitals do not treat the uninsured significantly different when they go to the ER.

Really, you went and asked all medical professionals? Or you are just assuming that they are treating patients who are likely to pay them same as patients who are likely to help bankrupt their hospital?
 

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Really, you went and asked all medical professionals? Or you are just assuming that they are treating patients who are likely to pay them same as patients who are likely to help bankrupt their hospital?

No, I am not assuming.
 

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"hospitals who will be caring for Ebola patients" = whatever hospital an Ebola patient decides to go to

Which pretty much says it all. I very much doubt that most hospitals are prepared for the decontamination protocols needed to fully protect health care workers from Ebola.
 

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Republicans think they can not expand Medicaid, cut CDC funding, cut NIH funding, cut WHO funding, and there are zero consequences. That the government they cut, and that doesn't even provide health coverage to tens of millions of Americans during normal times, should still somehow magically protect them in times of an epidemic.
Wake the fark up, people. Wake up and smell the coffee.
 

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Which pretty much says it all. I very much doubt that most hospitals are prepared for the decontamination protocols needed to fully protect health care workers from Ebola.

The decontamination protocols are not really different from any other virus, such as the flu. The difference is that we accept people will get the flu and that is a normal part of life. Ebola is new, and scary so we do things we would normally not do, but would do if we wanted to decontaminate someone.
 

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My point flew right over your head.
Read again. If not sufficient, wash, rinse, repeat.

Your point didn't fly over anyone's head. You are saying this has everything to do with Medicaid and that his care would have been much better had he been covered. I am telling you none of it matters as he had a snowball's chance in hell of having coverage 5 days after arriving in the US.

Republicans think they can not expand Medicaid, cut CDC funding, cut NIH funding, cut WHO funding, and there are zero consequences. That the government they cut, and that doesn't even provide health coverage to tens of millions of Americans during normal times, should still somehow magically protect them in times of an epidemic.
Wake the fark up, people. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Now you trying to associate this guys death with a lack of funding for Medicaid.
 

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Your point didn't fly over anyone's head. You are saying this has everything to do with Medicaid and that his care would have been much better had he been covered. I am telling you none of it matters as he had a snowball's chance in hell of having coverage 5 days after arriving in the US.

Whoosh.
 

theeedude

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Really? "they are going to be getting anyone who is likely to contribute to that burden out the door ASAP, with as little "care" as legally required" Maybe you whooshed yourself.

It's OK, you don't need to get it, being in Syracuse, the smarter voters of NY have decided to expand Medicaid and save you from your own ignorance.
Texas wasn't so lucky, but you are home free.
 

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Just make sure your local hospital asks patients if they've been to Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Texas or other third world sh!tholes.
 
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