Tf700

[Chrono]

Should I buy TF700... or wait for the new tegra4 tablets to come out?

Hmmmm

 

[dagamer34]

I'd look into the Sony Xperia Tablet Z when it's finally released.

 

[lothar]

Should I buy TF700... or wait for the new tegra4 tablets to come out?

Hmmmm

Why in particular are you looking for a Tegra tablet?

 

[Bateluer]

Why in particular are you looking for a Tegra tablet?

TegraZone and THD games without having to root or mess with Chainfire, etc are pretty solid reasons. Plus Tegra 4 looks like it'll have the most powerful GPU out there . . . on paper.


I have a TF700, and its a decent tablet though the slow internal NAND and mono speaker really hold it back. Unless you score one for cheap, I'd wait for the next gen TF models.

 

[luiswhite]

I personally dislike TF700.. The edge width is too thick, and the price is a bit higher I think.

 

[poofyhairguy]

I have a TF700, and its a decent tablet though the slow internal NAND and mono speaker really hold it back. Unless you score one for cheap, I'd wait for the next gen TF models.

Yeah my TF201 has the same problems. The NAND is really rough. Luckily I got root finally so I will try to offload more to the SD card.

 

[s44]

I'd look into the Sony Xperia Tablet Z when it's finally released.

It -- basically a blown up N4 -- is going to be out, what, a month before the next-gen TF?

Another fail Sony attempt.

Plus Tegra 4 looks like it'll have the most powerful GPU out there . . . on paper.

More important is, IMO, the massive memory bandwidth boost from (up to) dual-channel LPDDR3.

 

[lothar]

TegraZone and THD games without having to root or mess with Chainfire, etc are pretty solid reasons. Plus Tegra 4 looks like it'll have the most powerful GPU out there . . . on paper.


I have a TF700, and its a decent tablet though the slow internal NAND and mono speaker really hold it back. Unless you score one for cheap, I'd wait for the next gen TF models.

Yes, but if you buy a non-Tegra device(whether phone or tablet) at anytime in the future, then TegraZone and THD games becomes a negative reason to own one.
The pendulum swings both ways.

On paper? Possibly. But at this point, Tegra 4 is vaporware.
I'll wait for an actual shipping product before speculating on it's performance.
At the rate nVidia is going...Who knows, maybe SnapDragon 800 would have shipped and taken the crown back before Tegra 4 ever gets launched.

 

[Bateluer]

Yes, but if you buy a non-Tegra device(whether phone or tablet) at anytime in the future, then TegraZone and THD games becomes a negative reason to own one.
The pendulum swings both ways.

On paper? Possibly. But at this point, Tegra 4 is vaporware.
I'll wait for an actual shipping product before speculating on it's performance.
At the rate nVidia is going...Who knows, maybe SnapDragon 800 would have shipped and taken the crown back before Tegra 4 ever gets launched.

True enough. Have to see what Asus launches for their next Transformer, they are learning with only a few things holding them back.

 

[lothar]

True enough. Have to see what Asus launches for their next Transformer, they are learning with only a few things holding them back.

AFAIK, currently only ZTE and SanDisk are officially listed as Tegra 4 Launch partners.
For all we know, ASUS may not even endup using Tegra 4 SoC.

Tegra 4 won't come out in tablets for a while.
nVidia says Project Shield will be the first Tegra 4 device. Project Shield has an expected launch date of July.

 

[Chrono]

Such BS... why July until Tegra4? I think the first T3 device was released last year in Feb?(TF200?).

 

[s44]

Such BS... why July until Tegra4? I think the first T3 device was released last year in Feb?(TF200?).

This year they have the fastest chip, not the slowest. And probably by a lot on the GPU side.

It's rather amusing that time to market pretty much tracks performance in each generation.

 

[Raduque]

TegraZone and THD games

If we all stopped buying this shit, it would GO AWAY. I will never buy or allow anybody who relies on my tech knowledge for purchasing to buy a Tegra device.

 

[Bateluer]

Such BS... why July until Tegra4? I think the first T3 device was released last year in Feb?(TF200?).

Its a July release because they need to actually finish the chip. Better to have a completed product at launch than something half baked like the Tegra 2.

If we all stopped buying this shit, it would GO AWAY. I will never buy or allow anybody who relies on my tech knowledge for purchasing to buy a Tegra device.

Not that simple. Nvidia provides far more developer support than Qualcomm, Sammy provides zero, ARM provides zero, TI pulled out, etc. If you're a developer making a game and Nvidia is holding your hand, you'll make an enhanced THD version and a less-enhanced version for everyone else.

Also, the Nexus 7 uses Tegra 3, and thats still the reigning champ for the 7in tablet market. If someone wants a 7in tablet, there's only one option and thats the Nexus 7. Might change in May though, if the Nexus 7 2013 model sports an S4 Pro.

 

[lopri]

What is TF700?

Did a quick search and it's been out? -> http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-TF700T-B1-GR-10-1-Inch-Tablet-Gray/dp/B008F4NL04

@s44: Under what criteria Xepria Z tablet a fail? Personally I wish it was 7~8" and cheaper (heard that it's going to be $500+) but other than that it's the most brilliant design I've ever seen on a tablet.

We can talk about Tegra 4 when it comes out. I have a feeling it's going to be a long while. And frankly I prefer Sony's QC over that of ASUS's.

 

[Bateluer]

@s44: Under what criteria Xepria Z tablet a fail? Personally I wish it was 7~8" and cheaper (heard that it's going to be $500+) but other than that it's the most brilliant design I've ever seen on a tablet.

Not a fail, per se. But arriving late to market with an SoC thats about to be outdated means it comes in right at the end of a product cycle and will end up being compared to parts that handily outperform it.

We can talk about Tegra 4 when it comes out. I have a feeling it's going to be a long while. And frankly I prefer Sony's QC over that of ASUS's.

Tegra 4 = July-ish, thats not far off.
Right now, Asus has a pretty solid track record with OS updates too.

 

[Raduque]

Not that simple. Nvidia provides far more developer support than Qualcomm, Sammy provides zero, ARM provides zero, TI pulled out, etc. If you're a developer making a game and Nvidia is holding your hand, you'll make an enhanced THD version and a less-enhanced version for everyone else.

That's why they should code to standards, not chipsets. They also need to stop taking nVidia's money to cripple titles.

Also, the Nexus 7 uses Tegra 3, and thats still the reigning champ for the 7in tablet market. If someone wants a 7in tablet, there's only one option and thats the Nexus 7. Might change in May though, if the Nexus 7 2013 model sports an S4 Pro.

The nexus 7 is not the only option for a 7" tablet.

 

[Bateluer]

The nexus 7 is not the only option for a 7" tablet.

Didn't say it was, I said it was best option. There is no other 7in tablet that offers the performance, specs, features, and most current Android while maintaining a 200 dollar price tag. The Samsung GTab 2 7in is a poor competitor due to the worse screen and far slower OMAP4, though its sd slow is nice. Unless you're heavily into Amazon's services, the Fire's aren't a good choice either. The N7 simply offers more.

 

[Raduque]

Didn't say it was, I said it was best option.

If someone wants a 7in tablet, there's only one option and thats the Nexus 7.

The Nexus 7 is also crippled by Google's insistence on scaling up the phone UI to larger screens.

 

[Bateluer]

The Nexus 7 is also crippled by Google's insistence on scaling up the phone UI to larger screens.

The N7 is hardly crippled because you don't like the UI. But if having a similar UI to a Nexus phone bothers you, install one of the other launchers.

 

[Raduque]

The N7 is hardly crippled because you don't like the UI. But if having a similar UI to a Nexus phone bothers you, install one of the other launchers.

The launcher doesn't change that the system framework has two status bars when it should have one.

 

[Bateluer]

The launcher doesn't change that the system framework has two status bars when it should have one.

This causes no usability issues on the screen while allowing easy access to more information and controls than with just the bottom navigation bars. Its positive on a 7in screen. You can whine as much as you want, but show another 7in tablet at a 199 price point that even comes close to the N7.

On a 10in, I think it'd be a little cumbersome, but I don't have a stock 4.2 10in device so I can't really comment.

 

[Fire&Blood]

This causes no usability issues on the screen while allowing easy access to more information and controls than with just the bottom navigation bars. Its positive on a 7in screen. You can whine as much as you want, but show another 7in tablet at a 199 price point that even comes close to the N7.

On a 10in, I think it'd be a little cumbersome, but I don't have a stock 4.2 10in device so I can't really comment.

I have the N10 and 2 status bars instead of 1 isn't an issue for me. It didn't even take long to get used to it. Though I think there is room for improvement of virtual bezel that would benefit all Nexus devices.

The soft keys bar isn't setup proportionately to screen dimensions, it's the same height on both the N4 and the N10 so I'm guessing it's same on the N7 as well. Logical assumption is that it's less of an issue on bigger devices but it still takes up a good chunk of the surface. Maybe they should have integrated the soft keys into the upper left notification tab, at least on bigger devices. Not really an issue but there is definitely room for for improvement of the look and function of soft keys and Google needs to revisit the virtual bezel and reconsider if 2 separate bars are really the way to go forward.

 

[robphelan]

I've had a TF700 for about 6 months or so. I just bought the TF201 dock and am loving all of it. I'm happy with Asus' OS releases. I've had 3 of them so far.

Compare that to Samsung's release strategy which is to force you to buy a new phone for an upgraded OS. Albeit I'm comparing a tablet to a phone, you get the idea.

I'd buy it if you can score a really good price on one.

 

[s44]

Compare that to Samsung's release strategy which is to force you to buy a new phone for an upgraded OS.

I don't know where people come up with this stuff. Samsung has been by far the best in updating its mid-high end phones from 2011 onward. The original S2 will probably end up with more current final firmware than the One X.