I'm talking about reasonable plan to make remove Hezbollah from the boarder. giving up land doesn't make people disappear.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yet the 'killing hundreds of people' plan is easily beat by making reasonable plans with the international community to resolve the problem in a more peaceful manner.Originally posted by: jrenz
Killing hundreds of people and hopeing for the best, what a way to deal
Beats having hundreds of your own people killed, and hoping for the best.
IT doesn't work. They gave up land and got attacked anyway.
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: RichardE
I belive in killing the people trying to destroy peace, protecting the peacefull. It is why I would fight for the US army if it defended Taiwan from China.
So if the U.S. or Canada was ever involved in destroying peace somewhere. You would be doing what you can to kill those people?
Oh, I am sorry they dropped 23 tons of explosive on their enemy who declared open war on them, and vowed to kill them all. It was very insensitive of them to strike such a target. I guess it shows what kind of monsters they are.Originally posted by: BBond
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli warplanes dropped bombs early Thursday on a bunker in south Beirut where senior Hezbollah leaders were thought to be, the military said.
Military officials said a wave of aircraft dropped 23 tons of explosives on the bunker. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters, said top Hezbollah figures were thought to be there, possibly including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
A military source told NBC News that dozens of aircraft took part in the operation sometime before midnight on Wednesday. Israeli forces called the multiple bombing runs ?very significant? attacks. An official would not say if Nasrallah was in the bunker at the time.
Originally posted by: shuan24
I love how all the Muslim and/or terrorist apologists choose to ignore the fact that Hezbollah captured the Israeli soldiers so they can hold them for ransom. Where is the outrage now? This was an unprovoked, deliberate act of war. But you guys don't want to call it war because Hezbollah does not have a military, or at least what most people define as a military. So any Hezbollah deaths are now considered "civilian" deaths. Talk about a double standard.
If Hezbollah had a legitimate gripe, shouldn't they have gone to this "international community to resolve the problem in a more peaceful manner"? The hypocrisy is uncanny.
No, it is a blatent example of the fact that two wrongs don't make a right.Originally posted by: shuan24
If Hezbollah had a legitimate gripe, shouldn't they have gone to this "international community to resolve the problem in a more peaceful manner"? The hypocrisy is uncanny.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Are they?
If big blue aliens with Coors beers came down and started to pick the hairs out of your body 1 by 1....
Hypothetical situations with no basis are no good in an argument.
Amnesty International, in its annual report on US military aid and human rights, states that ?throughout the world, on any given day, a man, woman or child is likely to be displaced, tortured, killed or ?disappeared? at the hands of governments or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares the blame.? [Chomsky, 1998]
Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: RichardE
Are they?
If big blue aliens with Coors beers came down and started to pick the hairs out of your body 1 by 1....
Hypothetical situations with no basis are no good in an argument.
Amnesty International, in its annual report on US military aid and human rights, states that ?throughout the world, on any given day, a man, woman or child is likely to be displaced, tortured, killed or ?disappeared? at the hands of governments or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares the blame.? [Chomsky, 1998]
Not really hypothetical, but I don't think your ready for reality. Your just going through a phase you'll grow out of someday
Outside of academia, Chomsky is far more widely known for his political activism, and for his criticism of the foreign policy of the United States and other governments. Chomsky describes himself as a libertarian socialist and a sympathizer of anarcho-syndicalism (he is a member of the IWW). He is generally considered to be a key intellectual figure within the left wing of the United States politics.
* He holds a wide range of very strong criticisms of the U.S. government.
* He describes himself as a libertarian socialist or anarcho-syndicalist and is highly critical of Leninist branches of socialism.
* He holds views that can be summarized as anti-war: Anti-Vietnam War and against most other US interventions in conflicts of his lifetime.
* He has a classical liberal view of broad free-speech rights, especially in the mass media; he opposes censorship of views he disdains.
* He considers himself a Zionist in the traditional sense, previously supported a one-state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict but now supports a two state solution.
Originally posted by: RichardE
You should choose your sources/examples for this subject more carefully than an anti-american policy, anti-war, activist with an agenda
Originally posted by: RichardE
All I am saying is you choose a quote from a guy who is out to attack US policy. That is like asking a Jewish hater what his view on Israel is. Of course you are going to get some far out comment like
"Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it."-Noam Chomsky
He holds views that can be summarized as anti-war: Anti-Vietnam War and against most other US interventions in conflicts of his lifetime.
Originally posted by: RichardE
meh, forget it
You're not going to change my mind on this, and I won't change yours.
Last year, Noam Chomsky paid a solidarity visit to Hezbollah. That alone, makes him a scumbag worth a bullet in the head.Originally posted by: Orignal Earl
Originally posted by: RichardE
All I am saying is you choose a quote from a guy who is out to attack US policy. That is like asking a Jewish hater what his view on Israel is. Of course you are going to get some far out comment like
"Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it."-Noam Chomsky
That makes total sense to me. Anything else is just beening a hyprocite
He holds views that can be summarized as anti-war: Anti-Vietnam War and against most other US interventions in conflicts of his lifetime.
I believe that war is horrible and should never happen. Try talking to some vets ( not the ones on here, head down to your local Legion and share your views)
I was involved with the military and can be called your classic redneck. I was kid during
Vietnam and did not learn all the details about what really went on till much later in life.
Yes, now I am beginning to learn about reaping what you sow
That is an ad-hominem argument rather than a logical one.Originally posted by: Meuge
Last year, Noam Chomsky paid a solidarity visit to Hezbollah. That alone, makes him a scumbag worth a bullet in the head.
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
That is an ad-hominem argument rather than a logical one.Originally posted by: Meuge
Last year, Noam Chomsky paid a solidarity visit to Hezbollah. That alone, makes him a scumbag worth a bullet in the head.
In May 2006, Chomsky traveled to Lebanon and met with Nabil Qauq, Hezbollah leader in Southern Lebanon, who took Chomsky, his wife, and fellow university professor Fawwaz al-Trabulsi on a tour of Al Khiyam prison[5]. Many on the American right have cited this event as evidence of Chomsky as a sympathizer with terrorism, and Lebanese criticized Chomsky's visit as well.[6], [7], [8]
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, that is ad-hominem, attacks on a person rather than his argument.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Yeah, that is ad-hominem, attacks on a person rather than his argument.
The actions of a person can describe there argument/Stance.
7) King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia. Age 82. In power since 1995. Last year?s rank: 5
Originally posted by: Meuge
Oh, I am sorry they dropped 23 tons of explosive on their enemy who declared open war on them, and vowed to kill them all. It was very insensitive of them to strike such a target. I guess it shows what kind of monsters they are.Originally posted by: BBond
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli warplanes dropped bombs early Thursday on a bunker in south Beirut where senior Hezbollah leaders were thought to be, the military said.
Military officials said a wave of aircraft dropped 23 tons of explosives on the bunker. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters, said top Hezbollah figures were thought to be there, possibly including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
A military source told NBC News that dozens of aircraft took part in the operation sometime before midnight on Wednesday. Israeli forces called the multiple bombing runs ?very significant? attacks. An official would not say if Nasrallah was in the bunker at the time.
Tool.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Meuge
Oh, I am sorry they dropped 23 tons of explosive on their enemy who declared open war on them, and vowed to kill them all. It was very insensitive of them to strike such a target. I guess it shows what kind of monsters they are.Originally posted by: BBond
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli warplanes dropped bombs early Thursday on a bunker in south Beirut where senior Hezbollah leaders were thought to be, the military said.
Military officials said a wave of aircraft dropped 23 tons of explosives on the bunker. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters, said top Hezbollah figures were thought to be there, possibly including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
A military source told NBC News that dozens of aircraft took part in the operation sometime before midnight on Wednesday. Israeli forces called the multiple bombing runs ?very significant? attacks. An official would not say if Nasrallah was in the bunker at the time.
Tool.
The Israeli terrorist forces are dropping bombs and missiles on Lebanese civilians and civilian infrastructure. Clearly a war crime outlawed in Article 4 of the
Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.
How soon the Israeli people forget that they were on the other side of the coin not so long ago. Nice to see the state of Israel is little better than the Third Reich.
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Meuge
Oh, I am sorry they dropped 23 tons of explosive on their enemy who declared open war on them, and vowed to kill them all. It was very insensitive of them to strike such a target. I guess it shows what kind of monsters they are.Originally posted by: BBond
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli warplanes dropped bombs early Thursday on a bunker in south Beirut where senior Hezbollah leaders were thought to be, the military said.
Military officials said a wave of aircraft dropped 23 tons of explosives on the bunker. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters, said top Hezbollah figures were thought to be there, possibly including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
A military source told NBC News that dozens of aircraft took part in the operation sometime before midnight on Wednesday. Israeli forces called the multiple bombing runs ?very significant? attacks. An official would not say if Nasrallah was in the bunker at the time.
Tool.
The Israeli terrorist forces are dropping bombs and missiles on Lebanese civilians and civilian infrastructure. Clearly a war crime outlawed in Article 4 of the
Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.
How soon the Israeli people forget that they were on the other side of the coin not so long ago. Nice to see the state of Israel is little better than the Third Reich.
If Israel was as bad as the third reich, there would be no Palestinians... hell there probably wouldn't be any Jordanians either... but you are an idiot... so I won't expect you to understand that.
300 people != 50,000,000
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Meuge
Oh, I am sorry they dropped 23 tons of explosive on their enemy who declared open war on them, and vowed to kill them all. It was very insensitive of them to strike such a target. I guess it shows what kind of monsters they are.Originally posted by: BBond
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli warplanes dropped bombs early Thursday on a bunker in south Beirut where senior Hezbollah leaders were thought to be, the military said.
Military officials said a wave of aircraft dropped 23 tons of explosives on the bunker. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters, said top Hezbollah figures were thought to be there, possibly including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
A military source told NBC News that dozens of aircraft took part in the operation sometime before midnight on Wednesday. Israeli forces called the multiple bombing runs ?very significant? attacks. An official would not say if Nasrallah was in the bunker at the time.
Tool.
The Israeli terrorist forces are dropping bombs and missiles on Lebanese civilians and civilian infrastructure. Clearly a war crime outlawed in Article 4 of the
Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.
How soon the Israeli people forget that they were on the other side of the coin not so long ago. Nice to see the state of Israel is little better than the Third Reich.
If Israel was as bad as the third reich, there would be no Palestinians... hell there probably wouldn't be any Jordanians either... but you are an idiot... so I won't expect you to understand that.
300 people != 50,000,000
Israel is genocidal and savage just like the Third Reich and it didn't kill 300 people only along its history.
Originally posted by: Gamer X
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Meuge
Oh, I am sorry they dropped 23 tons of explosive on their enemy who declared open war on them, and vowed to kill them all. It was very insensitive of them to strike such a target. I guess it shows what kind of monsters they are.Originally posted by: BBond
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli warplanes dropped bombs early Thursday on a bunker in south Beirut where senior Hezbollah leaders were thought to be, the military said.
Military officials said a wave of aircraft dropped 23 tons of explosives on the bunker. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters, said top Hezbollah figures were thought to be there, possibly including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
A military source told NBC News that dozens of aircraft took part in the operation sometime before midnight on Wednesday. Israeli forces called the multiple bombing runs ?very significant? attacks. An official would not say if Nasrallah was in the bunker at the time.
Tool.
The Israeli terrorist forces are dropping bombs and missiles on Lebanese civilians and civilian infrastructure. Clearly a war crime outlawed in Article 4 of the
Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.
How soon the Israeli people forget that they were on the other side of the coin not so long ago. Nice to see the state of Israel is little better than the Third Reich.
If Israel was as bad as the third reich, there would be no Palestinians... hell there probably wouldn't be any Jordanians either... but you are an idiot... so I won't expect you to understand that.
300 people != 50,000,000
Israel is genocidal and savage just like the Third Reich and it didn't kill 300 people only along its history.