Last I checked this is a public forum where people of all walks of life are free to debate as we please...
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Doboji
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: BBond
Americans are so funny. Their view of the world so skewed. "third world" indeed.
Look in your own backyard for a good example of the "third world". Look at New Orleans. Appalachia. Skeeter, Mississippi. :laugh:
You Sir, are a clueless idiot.
I've lived in Paris, Berlin, London, NYC etc (born in CA). I currently live in what you refer to as "Appalachia". It's not a "Third World" country, at all.
Take your "Northern" predjudice and shove it up your backside.
Fern
I've been to Appalachia too. It had all the appearances of a third world county when I was there and I doubt it's changed much since.
Only eight of the 410 counties in Appalachia are equal to or better than the national average on indicators like per-capita income, poverty, and unemployment rates, according to Ohio News Now. All eight counties are urban or suburban. Poverty remains the worst in central Appalachia, including eastern Kentucky. Of the 91 counties classified by the ARC as ?distressed,? 35 are in eastern Kentucky. In these areas, poverty rates are double the national average, according to the AP.
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I was born in Appalachia. Coal country. Poverty and lack of education were rampant and still are. Luckily, I escaped to the "prejudiced" Northeast while still very young.
Meanwhile you appear to be acclimating yourself to Appalachia quite well. I recognize the ignorance of the locals in your name calling and suggestive reference to my "backside".
I take it you've seen "Deliverance" and are a fan.
Was that you playing the banjo on the porch? Or are you lying in wait for the city folk who venture out into the woods?
Holy crap man... I think you really need to see a psychiatrist
You're likely more in need of psychiatric help than I am. You're stalking me through threads and seem to have an obsession with injecting yourself into my arguments with others.
Originally posted by: Doboji
Last I checked this is a public forum where people of all walks of life are free to debate as we please...
Originally posted by: BBond
More reasons to "thank" Israel...
57 perish on deadliest day of war so far
By Raed El Rafei
Daily Star staff
Thursday, July 20, 2006
BEIRUT: Israeli air strikes killed at least 57 civilians and a Hizbullah fighter on Wednesday, the single deadliest day of the war so far, as thousands of villagers continued to flee. The scale of civilian casualties was described by the UN human rights chief Wednesday as having the potential to result in charges of "war crimes"
In the morning, Israel struck at the heart of Beirut's largest Christian neighborhood for the first time since the conflict started. A helicopter strike in Achrafieh destroyed two trucks stationed in an abandoned lot, but caused no casualties.
"It's simply terrifying. Nowhere is safe anymore," said Arlette, shaking at the memory of the blast that went off a few meters from her home.
Many families in the area were seen packing their bags shortly after the attack, leaving for the safety of the mountains.
"I am sending my nephews to Faraya. I cannot bare feeling they might be hurt," said Hoda as she waved goodbye to her three nephews. "I am totally confused. Israel is apparently sparing nobody."
Previous attacks had almost exclusively targeted Muslim, particularly Shiite, areas. While some suggested well-drilling equipment aboard the trucks could have been mistaken for rocket launchers by the Israeli military, others said the strike was a message to Christian MP Michel Aoun for comments this week in support of Hizbullah.
Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Wednesday that Israel's campaign would continue.
"The prime minister stressed that Israel will conduct the fight against Hizbullah for as long as necessary to return the kidnapped solders and fully implement" UN resolutions, Olmert's office said in a statement after he met with European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana.
Israel's security Cabinet met later in the day and decided that the country's twin offensives in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon would continue "with no time limit," a senior government official said.
The Cabinet described the brutal campaign in Lebanon, dubbed "Operation Just Reward," as an "intensive war against Hizbullah."
The Israeli ministers also outlined the conditions under which negotiations could begin: the unconditional release of the two soldiers snatched by Hizbullah last week, and end to Hizbullah rocket strikes against northern Israel, and implementation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559, the source said.
Israeli officials claimed Wednesday that the Jewish state's air strikes had destroyed "about 50 percent" of Hizbullah's arsenal.
Denying the claim, the Shiite resistance group said it had the capacity to target Israeli territory for months.
In the latest violence on the ground, fierce firefights broke out between Israeli troops and Hizbullah guerrillas along the border Wednesday, with casualties reported on both sides.
The Israeli military confirmed that two soldiers were killed and another nine wounded in the clashes, while Hizbullah officials in South Lebanon said one fighter had been killed.
Israeli military officials said troops had crossed the border into Lebanon Wednesday in search of tunnels and weapons. Hizbullah said it repelled Israeli forces near the coastal border town of Naqoura.
Israeli strikes flatten Lebanese villages
By NASSER NASSER
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
TYRE, Lebanon -- An entire neighborhood of a southern Lebanese village is no more: All 15 houses were destroyed Wednesday in an airstrike by Israelis apparently determined to stop Hezbollah's frequent rocket fire from this region.
Down the road, residents fled north on treacherous roads regularly targeted with Israeli bombs. Meanwhile, U.N. peacekeepers in the nearby southern port of Tyre prepared to evacuate their families and other Westerners.
Israel's onslaught, now in its second week, has wreaked its worst damage in the poor farming regions of southern Lebanon. Warplanes have blasted bridges and roads and turned villages into ghost towns as civilians flee, abandoning the area to Hezbollah guerrillas who continue to fire rockets on Israel and engage any ground force that advances from the border 12 miles to the south.
The Tyre region is the heartland of Lebanon's Shiite Muslims. The guerrilla group is less powerful in the city of Tyre, an ancient port with white sandy beaches and Roman ruins where more moderate Shiite factions dominate. But the villages nestled in valleys outside the city are a bastion of support for the Shiite Hezbollah.
On Wednesday, Israeli strikes thundered down on two villages after Hezbollah fired rockets from the area, said residents. And it was residents who were hit in retaliation.
The Najdeh neighborhood in the village of Srifa was flattened into a heap of rubble - with the rooftop of a single house sticking out of the pile.
The village mayor said between 25 and 30 people were believed to have been in the 15 wrecked houses, and their fate was unknown. Fire engines put out the blaze and rescuers struggled to retrieve the casualties.
"This is a real massacre," Mayor Hussein Kamaledine said.
After the first strikes, Hezbollah fighters carrying walkie-talkies rushed for cover whenever Israeli warplanes or pilotless aircraft appeared overhead. The few remaining people in the village huddled in cellars and or with cattle in barns. Five members of the Aladine family wounded by shrapnel had to be carried on stretchers as by people walking three miles to a hospital in Sarafand.
Israeli bombs destroyed the main road to Srifa through the bluffs over Tyre so those trying to reach the village had to walk, rushing for cover under trees whenever the roar of planes or the drone of a pilotless plane was heard. Some smaller roads were still passable.
Farther north at Ghaziyeh, one person was killed and two wounded when an Israeli missile struck a building that housed a Hezbollah-affiliated social institution - which was empty - and a neighboring home.
"May God's wrath fall upon America and Israel," said Abu Ali Koteish, 53, who owns a nearby flower shop.
In the village of Salaa, a strike destroyed several houses. Villagers said bodies were trapped under the rubble with no heavy machinery available to rescue them. No casualty count was immediately known.
In Tyre, relatives of U.N. peacekeeping personnel as well as some French citizens were preparing to leave on a cruise ship.
Families camped out at a beach with their luggage to wait for the vessel, being sent by France. The ship was expected once arrangements could be made with Israel, which is blockading Lebanon's ports.
Crisis escalates as food, medicines run low
By Kristen Trotter
Special to The Daily Star
Thursday, July 20, 2006
BEIRUT: The humanitarian crisis is quickly escalating in the South, where crucial medical and food supplies are running out quickly as Israeli air strikes have made it impossible to re-supply the embattled region, and in Beirut resources are strained from the influx of people fleeing Israeli bombardment in the South and southern suburbs.
The Health Ministry will distribute medicine to hospitals around Lebanon, starting with those caring for the highest number of wounded civilians, Health Minister Mohammad Khalifeh said at a news conference Wednesday. Over 850 civilians have been wounded so far.
"Hospital supplies in the South will last for a couple of days," told The Daily Star. "This is an ongoing disaster. In Beirut, we are losing our stocks of supplies and not replacing them."
Doctors across Lebanon Wednesday said they were in need of crucial supplies like oxygen tanks and anaesthetics, but the situation is worst in the South, where many villages have been isolated.
"Without a safe corridor to bring food and medical supplies to the South, this problem is only going to grow larger," Abdel-Jaouad Mahjour, the World Health Organization (WHO) representative in Lebanon, told The Daily Star.
The main concern, he said, is to deliver medicines needed for chronic illnesses and taken on daily bases. Delivering supplies to an isolated South is not the only problem, however - the Israeli blockade of Lebanon has depleted supplies across the country. Israel planes destroyed a convoy of trucks in the Bekaa Tuesday that was, according to Syria, carrying medical supplies from the United Arab Emirates and bound for Lebanon.
Offers for help have poured in from Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, Syria, and Turkey, according to the Higher Relief Committee, but transport is an obstacle.
In Nabatieh Wednesday, a blood bank stopped operating because it lost power, and the situation is growing worse for the Lebanese Red Cross, one of the few humanitarian organizations with access to the South, said Hicham Hassan, spokesman for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). The Lebanese Red Cross is now finding it difficult to even use its mobile clinics in the South, he said.
The ICRC received its first convoy of supplies Wednesday, Hassan said, unloading 24 tons of food and medical supplies from two trucks which came from the delegation in Amman and passed through the northern border with Syria. Another convoy is expected in a few days.
The ICRC announced Wednesday that it has "serious questions" about Israel's conduct in Lebanon and the civilian toll its military strikes have taken, and launched an appeal to raise 10 million Swiss francs ($8 million) from donor countries to help the Lebanese Red Cross care for civilian casualties and assist the internally displaced.
In Beirut, those people are straining the city's resources as it struggles to care for the influx of people fleeing the Israeli bombardment in the South and the southern suburbs. UNICEF has estimated that 500,000 people have already been displaced by the conflict, and requested over $7 million to deal with the crisis over the next four months.
The UN High Commissioner for Refugees announced Tuesday it was dispatching an emergency mobile team to Lebanon to assess the situation of the displaced. The team will first head to Damascus later this week, then move on to Beirut.
But the main problem is water, several officials said.
"Schools housing the displaced are not equipped for this," Soha Boustani, communications officer for the UN Children's Fund, said in an interview with The Daily Star.
"There are no water tanks, no sanitation facilities, no kitchens," she said. "The situation could become more appalling in a few days."
The WHO has provided chlorination for water at the public schools and vaccinations for children to prevent outbreaks of infectious diseases such as measles, said Mahjour.
UNICEF is sending social workers to the schools to identify and treat children who have psychological damage from the trauma, Boustani said.
Hospitals in the South are reporting blood shortages, Hassan said, though the situation is less serious in other parts of Lebanon. Boustani cited shortages in baby food, baby milk, diapers, and nutritional packs, but said UNICEF could not even identify all the needs at the moment.
"For those villages that have been isolated in the South," she said, "we don't even know exactly what the extent of the problem is."
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
Gamer X your being rediculous.
You say israel stole land.. like they invaded.. they were given the land. Be angry at the UN then not the israelis.
Arabs have so much land, why can't they just leave Israel, and thier small peice of land called surrounded by arab nations who vow to destroy the jewish people and Israel alone?
I just realized Israel has only been a country for 50 some years... that's crazy if you think about how advanced they are. Considering millions of arabs trying to kill them and everything.
I think arabs who want the jews dead and all "non-believers" either converted or murdered (which are the mainstream arabs, most of them believe this) are modern day nazis..
50 years ago jews were getting exterminated in concentration camps, now they're getting blown up by suicide bombers, jeez leave them alone already.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
Gamer X your being rediculous.
You say israel stole land.. like they invaded.. they were given the land. Be angry at the UN then not the israelis.
Arabs have so much land, why can't they just leave Israel, and thier small peice of land called surrounded by arab nations who vow to destroy the jewish people and Israel alone?
I just realized Israel has only been a country for 50 some years... that's crazy if you think about how advanced they are. Considering millions of arabs trying to kill them and everything.
I think arabs who want the jews dead and all "non-believers" either converted or murdered (which are the mainstream arabs, most of them believe this) are modern day nazis..
50 years ago jews were getting exterminated in concentration camps, now they're getting blown up by suicide bombers, jeez leave them alone already.
America has so much land, why doesn't America give away some of our land to form the state of Israel?
Israel is advanced militarily because they receive incredible support from the USA.
Your perception of Arabs' "mainstream arabs, most of them believe this" sentiments toward Jews is incredibly misinformed, prejudiced, and just plain wrong. There are Arabs and Jews living peacefully together all over the world. The only time there are problems is when radicals like bush or bin Laden inject themselves into the picture to achieve their own agendas.
In light of Israel's current massacre of Lebanon the charge of Nazi could easily be used against them as well.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Thats what happens when you **** with a country stronger than you. Perhaps now Lebannon will think twice before allowed terrorist to attack Israel from it's borders.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: RichardE
Thats what happens when you **** with a country stronger than you. Perhaps now Lebannon will think twice before allowed terrorist to attack Israel from it's borders.
In your world humanity has barely crawled out of our caves.
"MIGHT MAKES RIGHT" is what led bush into his disaster in Iraq. Right makes right. Massacring civilians is not right no matter how strong the parties conducting the massacre are.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BBond
More reasons to "thank" Israel...
57 perish on deadliest day of war so far
By Raed El Rafei
Daily Star staff
Thursday, July 20, 2006
BEIRUT: Israeli air strikes killed at least 57 civilians and a Hizbullah fighter on Wednesday, the single deadliest day of the war so far, as thousands of villagers continued to flee. The scale of civilian casualties was described by the UN human rights chief Wednesday as having the potential to result in charges of "war crimes"
In the morning, Israel struck at the heart of Beirut's largest Christian neighborhood for the first time since the conflict started. A helicopter strike in Achrafieh destroyed two trucks stationed in an abandoned lot, but caused no casualties.
"It's simply terrifying. Nowhere is safe anymore," said Arlette, shaking at the memory of the blast that went off a few meters from her home.
Many families in the area were seen packing their bags shortly after the attack, leaving for the safety of the mountains.
"I am sending my nephews to Faraya. I cannot bare feeling they might be hurt," said Hoda as she waved goodbye to her three nephews. "I am totally confused. Israel is apparently sparing nobody."
Previous attacks had almost exclusively targeted Muslim, particularly Shiite, areas. While some suggested well-drilling equipment aboard the trucks could have been mistaken for rocket launchers by the Israeli military, others said the strike was a message to Christian MP Michel Aoun for comments this week in support of Hizbullah.
Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Wednesday that Israel's campaign would continue.
"The prime minister stressed that Israel will conduct the fight against Hizbullah for as long as necessary to return the kidnapped solders and fully implement" UN resolutions, Olmert's office said in a statement after he met with European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana.
Israel's security Cabinet met later in the day and decided that the country's twin offensives in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon would continue "with no time limit," a senior government official said.
The Cabinet described the brutal campaign in Lebanon, dubbed "Operation Just Reward," as an "intensive war against Hizbullah."
The Israeli ministers also outlined the conditions under which negotiations could begin: the unconditional release of the two soldiers snatched by Hizbullah last week, and end to Hizbullah rocket strikes against northern Israel, and implementation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559, the source said.
Israeli officials claimed Wednesday that the Jewish state's air strikes had destroyed "about 50 percent" of Hizbullah's arsenal.
Denying the claim, the Shiite resistance group said it had the capacity to target Israeli territory for months.
In the latest violence on the ground, fierce firefights broke out between Israeli troops and Hizbullah guerrillas along the border Wednesday, with casualties reported on both sides.
The Israeli military confirmed that two soldiers were killed and another nine wounded in the clashes, while Hizbullah officials in South Lebanon said one fighter had been killed.
Israeli military officials said troops had crossed the border into Lebanon Wednesday in search of tunnels and weapons. Hizbullah said it repelled Israeli forces near the coastal border town of Naqoura.
Israeli strikes flatten Lebanese villages
By NASSER NASSER
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
TYRE, Lebanon -- An entire neighborhood of a southern Lebanese village is no more: All 15 houses were destroyed Wednesday in an airstrike by Israelis apparently determined to stop Hezbollah's frequent rocket fire from this region.
Down the road, residents fled north on treacherous roads regularly targeted with Israeli bombs. Meanwhile, U.N. peacekeepers in the nearby southern port of Tyre prepared to evacuate their families and other Westerners.
Israel's onslaught, now in its second week, has wreaked its worst damage in the poor farming regions of southern Lebanon. Warplanes have blasted bridges and roads and turned villages into ghost towns as civilians flee, abandoning the area to Hezbollah guerrillas who continue to fire rockets on Israel and engage any ground force that advances from the border 12 miles to the south.
The Tyre region is the heartland of Lebanon's Shiite Muslims. The guerrilla group is less powerful in the city of Tyre, an ancient port with white sandy beaches and Roman ruins where more moderate Shiite factions dominate. But the villages nestled in valleys outside the city are a bastion of support for the Shiite Hezbollah.
On Wednesday, Israeli strikes thundered down on two villages after Hezbollah fired rockets from the area, said residents. And it was residents who were hit in retaliation.
The Najdeh neighborhood in the village of Srifa was flattened into a heap of rubble - with the rooftop of a single house sticking out of the pile.
The village mayor said between 25 and 30 people were believed to have been in the 15 wrecked houses, and their fate was unknown. Fire engines put out the blaze and rescuers struggled to retrieve the casualties.
"This is a real massacre," Mayor Hussein Kamaledine said.
After the first strikes, Hezbollah fighters carrying walkie-talkies rushed for cover whenever Israeli warplanes or pilotless aircraft appeared overhead. The few remaining people in the village huddled in cellars and or with cattle in barns. Five members of the Aladine family wounded by shrapnel had to be carried on stretchers as by people walking three miles to a hospital in Sarafand.
Israeli bombs destroyed the main road to Srifa through the bluffs over Tyre so those trying to reach the village had to walk, rushing for cover under trees whenever the roar of planes or the drone of a pilotless plane was heard. Some smaller roads were still passable.
Farther north at Ghaziyeh, one person was killed and two wounded when an Israeli missile struck a building that housed a Hezbollah-affiliated social institution - which was empty - and a neighboring home.
"May God's wrath fall upon America and Israel," said Abu Ali Koteish, 53, who owns a nearby flower shop.
In the village of Salaa, a strike destroyed several houses. Villagers said bodies were trapped under the rubble with no heavy machinery available to rescue them. No casualty count was immediately known.
In Tyre, relatives of U.N. peacekeeping personnel as well as some French citizens were preparing to leave on a cruise ship.
Families camped out at a beach with their luggage to wait for the vessel, being sent by France. The ship was expected once arrangements could be made with Israel, which is blockading Lebanon's ports.
Crisis escalates as food, medicines run low
By Kristen Trotter
Special to The Daily Star
Thursday, July 20, 2006
BEIRUT: The humanitarian crisis is quickly escalating in the South, where crucial medical and food supplies are running out quickly as Israeli air strikes have made it impossible to re-supply the embattled region, and in Beirut resources are strained from the influx of people fleeing Israeli bombardment in the South and southern suburbs.
The Health Ministry will distribute medicine to hospitals around Lebanon, starting with those caring for the highest number of wounded civilians, Health Minister Mohammad Khalifeh said at a news conference Wednesday. Over 850 civilians have been wounded so far.
"Hospital supplies in the South will last for a couple of days," told The Daily Star. "This is an ongoing disaster. In Beirut, we are losing our stocks of supplies and not replacing them."
Doctors across Lebanon Wednesday said they were in need of crucial supplies like oxygen tanks and anaesthetics, but the situation is worst in the South, where many villages have been isolated.
"Without a safe corridor to bring food and medical supplies to the South, this problem is only going to grow larger," Abdel-Jaouad Mahjour, the World Health Organization (WHO) representative in Lebanon, told The Daily Star.
The main concern, he said, is to deliver medicines needed for chronic illnesses and taken on daily bases. Delivering supplies to an isolated South is not the only problem, however - the Israeli blockade of Lebanon has depleted supplies across the country. Israel planes destroyed a convoy of trucks in the Bekaa Tuesday that was, according to Syria, carrying medical supplies from the United Arab Emirates and bound for Lebanon.
Offers for help have poured in from Jordan, Kuwait, Morocco, Syria, and Turkey, according to the Higher Relief Committee, but transport is an obstacle.
In Nabatieh Wednesday, a blood bank stopped operating because it lost power, and the situation is growing worse for the Lebanese Red Cross, one of the few humanitarian organizations with access to the South, said Hicham Hassan, spokesman for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). The Lebanese Red Cross is now finding it difficult to even use its mobile clinics in the South, he said.
The ICRC received its first convoy of supplies Wednesday, Hassan said, unloading 24 tons of food and medical supplies from two trucks which came from the delegation in Amman and passed through the northern border with Syria. Another convoy is expected in a few days.
The ICRC announced Wednesday that it has "serious questions" about Israel's conduct in Lebanon and the civilian toll its military strikes have taken, and launched an appeal to raise 10 million Swiss francs ($8 million) from donor countries to help the Lebanese Red Cross care for civilian casualties and assist the internally displaced.
In Beirut, those people are straining the city's resources as it struggles to care for the influx of people fleeing the Israeli bombardment in the South and the southern suburbs. UNICEF has estimated that 500,000 people have already been displaced by the conflict, and requested over $7 million to deal with the crisis over the next four months.
The UN High Commissioner for Refugees announced Tuesday it was dispatching an emergency mobile team to Lebanon to assess the situation of the displaced. The team will first head to Damascus later this week, then move on to Beirut.
But the main problem is water, several officials said.
"Schools housing the displaced are not equipped for this," Soha Boustani, communications officer for the UN Children's Fund, said in an interview with The Daily Star.
"There are no water tanks, no sanitation facilities, no kitchens," she said. "The situation could become more appalling in a few days."
The WHO has provided chlorination for water at the public schools and vaccinations for children to prevent outbreaks of infectious diseases such as measles, said Mahjour.
UNICEF is sending social workers to the schools to identify and treat children who have psychological damage from the trauma, Boustani said.
Hospitals in the South are reporting blood shortages, Hassan said, though the situation is less serious in other parts of Lebanon. Boustani cited shortages in baby food, baby milk, diapers, and nutritional packs, but said UNICEF could not even identify all the needs at the moment.
"For those villages that have been isolated in the South," she said, "we don't even know exactly what the extent of the problem is."
Thats what happens when you **** with a country stronger than you. Perhaps now Lebannon will think twice before allowed terrorist to attack Israel from it's borders.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Meuge
Oh, I am sorry they dropped 23 tons of explosive on their enemy who declared open war on them, and vowed to kill them all. It was very insensitive of them to strike such a target. I guess it shows what kind of monsters they are.Originally posted by: BBond
BEIRUT, Lebanon - Israeli warplanes dropped bombs early Thursday on a bunker in south Beirut where senior Hezbollah leaders were thought to be, the military said.
Military officials said a wave of aircraft dropped 23 tons of explosives on the bunker. The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to reporters, said top Hezbollah figures were thought to be there, possibly including Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
A military source told NBC News that dozens of aircraft took part in the operation sometime before midnight on Wednesday. Israeli forces called the multiple bombing runs ?very significant? attacks. An official would not say if Nasrallah was in the bunker at the time.
Tool.
The Israeli terrorist forces are dropping bombs and missiles on Lebanese civilians and civilian infrastructure. Clearly a war crime outlawed in Article 4 of the
Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.
How soon the Israeli people forget that they were on the other side of the coin not so long ago. Nice to see the state of Israel is little better than the Third Reich.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why don't the arabs give away some to make a state of Palestinie? Since they care so much.
Oh wait..
The Arab nations shipped them to the camps in the first place.
Nazi Charge? Are you delusional? Go read a history book.
Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
1. If it was Israel's INTENTION to kill civilians, then even you would have to admit there would be thousands more dead. They use precision-guided munitions, therefore, they're either missing their mark every time, or they're aiming for something else. I'm sure you're already aware of this, but choose to ignore it because it somewhat invalidates your sensationalist rantings.
2. Hezbollah hides its personnel and arms behind civilians, so blame them for civilian casualties. If they'd just pile all their sh*t up in Hezbollahtown, there would be NO dead civilians. They do it for exactly this reason, so that anytime Israel defend herself, civilians are CERTAIN to be killed, which fuels the lies of people like you. They sacrifice the Lebanese to make the Israelis look bad, which should tell anyone with a brain how they really feel about the "people".
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: RichardE
Why don't the arabs give away some to make a state of Palestinie? Since they care so much.
Oh wait..
The Arab nations shipped them to the camps in the first place.
Nazi Charge? Are you delusional? Go read a history book.
My point is, although it is completely lost on you, that no sovereign nation is willing to give away land. Why should the Palestinians be any different. And since the move for a Jewish state was spearheaded by the USA why didn't we give away OUR land???
I'd like to see your statistics on Arabs shipping Jews to Nazi concentration camps. I have read history books and I've never encountered that one. I've read that Jews were turned away from Palestine after WWII but that had nothing to do with Arabs sympathizing with Nazis, it had to do with Palestinians not wanting to lose their land. And today you can see why they felt that way. Just look at Lebanon.
As for the Nazi charge, it all depends what side you're on. Just ask the Leanese civilinas being massacred by the Israel military. Just like the Jews were massacred by the German military.
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
QFT
Maybe some actual retaliation for years upon years of bombing and kidnapping israel is exactly what the lebenon's need right now.
Every time Israel has a cease fire with palestine, guess who's the first to break it? that's right, palestine is.
My theory is they need Israel, they want Israel around so they can act like savages. Whoa they are retaliating for a suicide bombing? LETS ALL MARCH DOWN THE STREET AND BURN FLAGS!! YAY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
ALSO LETS FAKE VIDEOS OF ARABS GETTING SHOT BY ISRAELIS AND FEED IT TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA!! WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE DIDNT HAVE ISRAEL TO HATE ON? (probably start killing themselves again)
BEATS ME BUT WHO CARES!
Originally posted by: RichardE
I would love to see your statistics on Jews shipping Arabs to Gas showers...
I guess you miss the fact the land belonged to Jordan and Egypt...
It never belonged to Palestinians.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
QFT
Maybe some actual retaliation for years upon years of bombing and kidnapping israel is exactly what the lebenon's need right now.
Every time Israel has a cease fire with palestine, guess who's the first to break it? that's right, palestine is.
My theory is they need Israel, they want Israel around so they can act like savages. Whoa they are retaliating for a suicide bombing? LETS ALL MARCH DOWN THE STREET AND BURN FLAGS!! YAY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
ALSO LETS FAKE VIDEOS OF ARABS GETTING SHOT BY ISRAELIS AND FEED IT TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA!! WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE DIDNT HAVE ISRAEL TO HATE ON? (probably start killing themselves again)
BEATS ME BUT WHO CARES!
Israel broke this latest truce by bombing civilians on a beach in Gaza which led to the capture of their soldiers.
I'd like to see your proof that the massacre we're witnessing in Lebanon is "fake".
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: RichardE
I would love to see your statistics on Jews shipping Arabs to Gas showers...
I guess you miss the fact the land belonged to Jordan and Egypt...
It never belonged to Palestinians.
You don't have to ship people to gas chambers to be a Nazi. You can massacre them in other ways. Just take a look at Lebanon.
Jordan and Egypt may have "owned" the land but it was known as Palestine and occupied by Palestinians. Another example of sovereign nations being unwilling to give away their land.
PS You never responded to my questions.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
QFT
Maybe some actual retaliation for years upon years of bombing and kidnapping israel is exactly what the lebenon's need right now.
Every time Israel has a cease fire with palestine, guess who's the first to break it? that's right, palestine is.
My theory is they need Israel, they want Israel around so they can act like savages. Whoa they are retaliating for a suicide bombing? LETS ALL MARCH DOWN THE STREET AND BURN FLAGS!! YAY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
ALSO LETS FAKE VIDEOS OF ARABS GETTING SHOT BY ISRAELIS AND FEED IT TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA!! WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE DIDNT HAVE ISRAEL TO HATE ON? (probably start killing themselves again)
BEATS ME BUT WHO CARES!
Israel broke this latest truce by bombing civilians on a beach in Gaza which led to the capture of their soldiers.
I'd like to see your proof that the massacre we're witnessing in Lebanon is "fake".
It is not a massacre..It is collateral damage. Let us also disregard all civilians were warned to leave, even aft the risk of forwarning the terrorists.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
QFT
Maybe some actual retaliation for years upon years of bombing and kidnapping israel is exactly what the lebenon's need right now.
Every time Israel has a cease fire with palestine, guess who's the first to break it? that's right, palestine is.
My theory is they need Israel, they want Israel around so they can act like savages. Whoa they are retaliating for a suicide bombing? LETS ALL MARCH DOWN THE STREET AND BURN FLAGS!! YAY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
ALSO LETS FAKE VIDEOS OF ARABS GETTING SHOT BY ISRAELIS AND FEED IT TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA!! WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE DIDNT HAVE ISRAEL TO HATE ON? (probably start killing themselves again)
BEATS ME BUT WHO CARES!
Israel broke this latest truce by bombing civilians on a beach in Gaza which led to the capture of their soldiers.
I'd like to see your proof that the massacre we're witnessing in Lebanon is "fake".
Originally posted by: BBond
Are you referring to the civilians who were "warned" to leave then massacred by the Israeli military?
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
QFT
Maybe some actual retaliation for years upon years of bombing and kidnapping israel is exactly what the lebenon's need right now.
Every time Israel has a cease fire with palestine, guess who's the first to break it? that's right, palestine is.
My theory is they need Israel, they want Israel around so they can act like savages. Whoa they are retaliating for a suicide bombing? LETS ALL MARCH DOWN THE STREET AND BURN FLAGS!! YAY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
ALSO LETS FAKE VIDEOS OF ARABS GETTING SHOT BY ISRAELIS AND FEED IT TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA!! WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE DIDNT HAVE ISRAEL TO HATE ON? (probably start killing themselves again)
BEATS ME BUT WHO CARES!
Israel broke this latest truce by bombing civilians on a beach in Gaza which led to the capture of their soldiers.
I'd like to see your proof that the massacre we're witnessing in Lebanon is "fake".
It is not a massacre..It is collateral damage. Let us also disregard all civilians were warned to leave, even aft the risk of forwarning the terrorists.
Are you referring to the civilians who were "warned" to leave then massacred by the Israeli military?
And warning civilians to leave, for example, as the USA did in Fallujah before we massacred them, is not a guaranty that they have the resources or means to leave. There are an estimated 500,000 displaced Lebanese who have no homes to return to since Israel has bombed them to rubble. Israel is also blockading Lebanese ports and bombing transportation links. Food and medicine are becoming scarce. Why is Israel intentionally destroying infrastructure and blockading Lebanon causing intentional punishment against a large number of civilians?
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
QFT
Maybe some actual retaliation for years upon years of bombing and kidnapping israel is exactly what the lebenon's need right now.
Every time Israel has a cease fire with palestine, guess who's the first to break it? that's right, palestine is.
My theory is they need Israel, they want Israel around so they can act like savages. Whoa they are retaliating for a suicide bombing? LETS ALL MARCH DOWN THE STREET AND BURN FLAGS!! YAY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
ALSO LETS FAKE VIDEOS OF ARABS GETTING SHOT BY ISRAELIS AND FEED IT TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA!! WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE DIDNT HAVE ISRAEL TO HATE ON? (probably start killing themselves again)
BEATS ME BUT WHO CARES!
Israel broke this latest truce by bombing civilians on a beach in Gaza which led to the capture of their soldiers.
I'd like to see your proof that the massacre we're witnessing in Lebanon is "fake".
You have your facts wrong, first an Israeli soldier was kidnapped. It makes no difference what I'm gonna say though because your whole life you were probably fed lies upon lies and now you can't tell the difference between the truth and lies, the only thing you know is that the arabs are right and everyone else is wrong.
Israel should have taken over lebanon after the 1st war. Hell they should've taken over the whole middle east just in spite of getting attacked on all fronts for no reason other then hatefull arabs thinking theyre always right.
Originally posted by: BBond
You don't have to ship people to gas chambers to be a Nazi. You can massacre them in other ways. Just take a look at Lebanon.
Originally posted by: BBond
Israel broke this latest truce by bombing civilians on a beach in Gaza which led to the capture of their soldiers.
I'd like to see your proof that the massacre we're witnessing in Lebanon is "fake".
Originally posted by: BBond
Jordan and Egypt may have "owned" the land but it was known as Palestine and occupied by Palestinians. Another example of sovereign nations being unwilling to give away their land.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
QFT
Maybe some actual retaliation for years upon years of bombing and kidnapping israel is exactly what the lebenon's need right now.
Every time Israel has a cease fire with palestine, guess who's the first to break it? that's right, palestine is.
My theory is they need Israel, they want Israel around so they can act like savages. Whoa they are retaliating for a suicide bombing? LETS ALL MARCH DOWN THE STREET AND BURN FLAGS!! YAY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
ALSO LETS FAKE VIDEOS OF ARABS GETTING SHOT BY ISRAELIS AND FEED IT TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA!! WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE DIDNT HAVE ISRAEL TO HATE ON? (probably start killing themselves again)
BEATS ME BUT WHO CARES!
Israel broke this latest truce by bombing civilians on a beach in Gaza which led to the capture of their soldiers.
I'd like to see your proof that the massacre we're witnessing in Lebanon is "fake".
You have your facts wrong, first an Israeli soldier was kidnapped. It makes no difference what I'm gonna say though because your whole life you were probably fed lies upon lies and now you can't tell the difference between the truth and lies, the only thing you know is that the arabs are right and everyone else is wrong.
Israel should have taken over lebanon after the 1st war. Hell they should've taken over the whole middle east just in spite of getting attacked on all fronts for no reason other then hatefull arabs thinking theyre always right.
No, you're absolutely WRONG. Israel bombed civilians on that Gaza beach prior to the capture of the first soldier.
The Gaza beach attack was June 9, 2006.
The FIRST Israeli soldier was captured on July 12, 2006.
You don't have to believe me. Check it out for yourself.
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
QFT
Maybe some actual retaliation for years upon years of bombing and kidnapping israel is exactly what the lebenon's need right now.
Every time Israel has a cease fire with palestine, guess who's the first to break it? that's right, palestine is.
My theory is they need Israel, they want Israel around so they can act like savages. Whoa they are retaliating for a suicide bombing? LETS ALL MARCH DOWN THE STREET AND BURN FLAGS!! YAY THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
ALSO LETS FAKE VIDEOS OF ARABS GETTING SHOT BY ISRAELIS AND FEED IT TO THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA!! WHAT WOULD WE DO IF WE DIDNT HAVE ISRAEL TO HATE ON? (probably start killing themselves again)
BEATS ME BUT WHO CARES!
Israel broke this latest truce by bombing civilians on a beach in Gaza which led to the capture of their soldiers.
I'd like to see your proof that the massacre we're witnessing in Lebanon is "fake".
You have your facts wrong, first an Israeli soldier was kidnapped. It makes no difference what I'm gonna say though because your whole life you were probably fed lies upon lies and now you can't tell the difference between the truth and lies, the only thing you know is that the arabs are right and everyone else is wrong.
Israel should have taken over lebanon after the 1st war. Hell they should've taken over the whole middle east just in spite of getting attacked on all fronts for no reason other then hatefull arabs thinking theyre always right.
No, you're absolutely WRONG. Israel bombed civilians on that Gaza beach prior to the capture of the first soldier.
The Gaza beach attack was June 9, 2006.
The FIRST Israeli soldier was captured on July 12, 2006.
You don't have to believe me. Check it out for yourself.
* The shrapnel. Three people wounded in the blast are now hospitalized in Israel. Shrapnel was apparently removed from their bodies, and this is likely to reinforce the conclusion that the explosion was caused by a bomb rather than a shell.
* The crater. Based on photographs, the crater left on the beach by the blast seems to have been made by an explosion from below (a mine), not a hit from above (a shell).
* Intelligence. Israel has amassed considerable information indicating that over the past few weeks, ever since Israeli commandos infiltrated Gaza and killed a rocket-launching cell, Hamas has been systematically mining the northern Gaza beach in an attempt to keep Israeli commandos from landing there again.
Originally posted by: BBond
Are you referring to the civilians who were "warned" to leave then massacred by the Israeli military?
And warning civilians to leave, for example, as the USA did in Fallujah before we massacred them, is not a guaranty that they have the resources or means to leave.