Thank You Mike Pence

[Jaskalas]

So change procedures and law in order to appease their un-reality? What about those unable to stand in line at polling places, etc.?
I disagree, and see it as appeasement that none of them deserve. The system works, as has been shown in the 2020 national election. Why fix what only ~30% of Americans believe to be broke because they refuse to work with facts instead of feels?

Do you have friends and family?
Do you want them to live in a nation that has food and water?
Do you... appreciate how easy it is to lose both when a modern nation fights a civil war?

Diplomacy means doing things you don't want to do. For a greater good. Such as maintaining the peace, for the lives of those we care about. The alternative.... if civil discourse breaks down entirely... as it is want to do when dealing with religious zealots such as the Trumpers.... .... you don't want that. You may think you do, but you really don't want the alternative.

Such a notion as I suggest is meant to address their current insanity. To cut them off from any semblance of rationale support and minimize their recruitment effort. See, today they think a coup happened on November 3rd. They think our Democracy is fake due to fake votes. Without consent of the governed, there is no Democracy. Violence is inevitable unless we manage to out-think our opponents TO SUCH A DEGREE as to run circles around them. Granted, we probably cannot achieve such a feat. Not as a whole, not through the stiff rigors of a political committee - but I at least feel a need to suggest a measure of peace. That is, before their terror cells form and begin irreparable acts.

Until you place a family pet on your dinner plate, you do not know the depths to which the United States is heading. Look to human history as your guide. What would you do to avoid our fate?

 

[Homerboy]

McConnel is in the same boat. He did all he could to undermine the election, short of actually committing a crime himself, and only now "defended democracy" when left with no other recourse.

yeap thank you, I forgot

#fuckmitchtoo

 

[Pohemi]

Do you have friends and family?
Do you want them to live in a nation that has food and water?
Do you... appreciate how easy it is to lose both when a modern nation fights a civil war?

Diplomacy means doing things you don't want to do. For a greater good. Such as maintaining the peace, for the lives of those we care about.

Until you place a family pet on your dinner plate, you do not know the depths to which the United States is heading. Look to human history as your guide. What would you do to avoid our fate?

So if I am understanding you correctly, you want to make changes because insane idiots cannot deal with reality. Is that it? Because there is no further logic to your suggestion. And how do you think this would satisfy them in any case?
Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Fuck them. All 70 million of them.

Political appeasement needs to involve reasonable demands and reality, not some bullshit that the orange menace has managed to brainwash millions of fucktards with.

Not changing voting laws to satisfy morons that believe a fantasy-story by the narccisist supreme will not lead to civil war.
Sounds more like blackmail in my mind..."Make these changes or we'll keep flinging shit!"

 

[Gardener]

Thats like saying "Never Forgive half the country"

Well, fuck, what the hell am I supposed to do?

We cant kill em. And I dont mean in any moral sense either, I mean its physically impossible to kill half the nation. And they refuse to wise up and use reason over belief. And counter-brain washing doesnt seem to work.
So, what now?

Target their leadership. Lock up the seditionists. Beat their candidates. Pass a voters rights act that mandates the right to mail-in voting. Republicans are a minority party with an oversized political reach which allows them to act with impunity.

Thank you Mike Pence.

Mike Pence was the key to Trump securing the support of the white, rascist, gay-hating evangelical vote. And he has spent the past 4 years enabling Trump, blowing smoke up his arse. Mike isn't the hapless victim of difficult circumstance. He sure as hell doesn't deserve a thank-you for doing the bare minimum obligation of his elected post for only 1 day.

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[SmCaudata]

He actually didn't have the power to overthrow the results of the election. His choice was to turn on Trump, who was looking like a total lunatic, or hitch his wagon to said lunatic and look like a lap dog. Either way the outcome would have been the same. In the end he chose to look like he was deciding for himself rather than going down with his boss like a useless lackey.

Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would have made the decision to certify the state electors. This was not brave or difficult.

In the end, I'd thank him for using the 25th to prevent catastrophe over these next two weeks. Anything less than that deserves no thanks.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Yup, Pence has one opportunity to save his legacy. Anything less than complete willingness to remove Turmp should be seen as enabling and abetting. If they want to unify the country they should do it against Turmp. 25th his ass, then impeach and remove him permanently, then have Pence direct the DoJ to unleash the hounds on Turmp.

 

[soundforbjt]

Hold Fox accountable for alt-reality bubbles.

Bring back the Fair Act.

 

[thesmokingman]

Mike Pence was the key to Trump securing the support of the white, rascist, gay-hating evangelical vote. And he has spent the past 4 years enabling Trump, blowing smoke up his arse. Mike isn't the hapless victim of difficult circumstance. He sure as hell doesn't deserve a thank-you for doing the bare minimum obligation of his elected post for only 1 day.

It's kind of ironic that he's become the symbol for stability for the party. If it weren't for him they wouldn't have called the national guard, so ironic.

 

[IronWing]

Mike Pence does deserve some credit for his actions yesterday. According to one security expert interviewed on NPR today, competent federal law enforcement response yesterday came only after Mike Pence directed his Secret Service attachment to defend Congress and directed them to notify the FBI that his personal butt was in the wringer. With that notification of imminent danger to the VP, the Secret Service and FBI had authority to respond to the capitol immediately, without waiting for White House or DOJ approval.

 

[hal2kilo]

The chance for Republicans to disavow Trump came early in 2020. For Impeachment landed on their desks. They objected and stood by their monster.

Republicans ARE Trump, never forget, never forgive. They would do it all again at next available opportunity.

Those FEW with a conscience can join Biden in the center while the rest of us push on ahead to make positive change for the American people.

Trumplicans are depraved scum. No quarter for those Fs anymore.

 

[hal2kilo]

Mike Pence does deserve some credit for his actions yesterday. According to one security expert interviewed on NPR today, competent federal law enforcement response yesterday came only after Mike Pence directed his Secret Service attachment to defend Congress and directed them to notify the FBI that his personal butt was in the wringer. With that notification of imminent danger to the VP, the Secret Service and FBI had authority to respond to the capitol immediately, without waiting for White House or DOJ approval.

Self defense. He was there.

 

[MtnMan]

Mike Pence, fuck him in the ass with a rusty rake.

This one...

 

[MtnMan]

McConnel is in the same boat. He did all he could to undermine the election, short of actually committing a crime himself, and only now "defended democracy" when left with no other recourse.

You mean MINORITY leader Moscow Mitch

 

[hal2kilo]

This one...

Much too shiny and clean.

 

[cytg111]

Fuck you Mike Pence. If you had any integrity you would have removed Trump via the 25th Amendment yesterday.

To be a little fair.
What kind of target would Pence paint on his back if he did this? He would become the singular focus of the Trump-mob.
Of course, still should have done it, his job.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Mike Pence does deserve some credit for his actions yesterday. According to one security expert interviewed on NPR today, competent federal law enforcement response yesterday came only after Mike Pence directed his Secret Service attachment to defend Congress and directed them to notify the FBI that his personal butt was in the wringer. With that notification of imminent danger to the VP, the Secret Service and FBI had authority to respond to the capitol immediately, without waiting for White House or DOJ approval.

Doesn't change the fact that is is a POS. He was before he was VP, during and will be after.

 

[Jaskalas]

So if I am understanding you correctly, you want to make changes because insane idiots cannot deal with reality. Is that it? Because there is no further logic to your suggestion. And how do you think this would satisfy them in any case?
Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Fuck them. All 70 million of them.

I am not surprised you choose to fight them over every inch of ground.

If humans could act rationally, we wouldn't be human. Our history is filled with countless examples of our very nature. An endless story of violence and conquest. All we truly know is the use of force upon the "other". Talking is only temporary reprieve, a ploy until we choose to resume violence. You choose to do that sooner rather than later. And you choose to do it without first addressing and marginalizing a current theme they are running with. You want to drive at them head on without first weakening their position.

Shame, that you do not understand the consequences of such a rash move. My suggestion is to yield an inch, grab the center, and then draw a line. Don't know if it'll matter in the end, but we will need every advantage we can muster if we are to survive the violence of our fellow Americans once it has begun.

 

[MtnMan]

To be a little fair.
What kind of target would Pence paint on his back if he did this? He would become the singular focus of the Trump-mob.
Of course, still should have done it, his job.

Why would it matter, his political career is over after 4 years of fellating Trump. Unsure if VP get SS protection after they leave office.

 

[Captante]

I've heard that declaring the 25th might not help much given the short time frame, unfortunately. If Trump objected at all (and he would) the delay would be enough that he'd leave office normally regardless.

Negative ... given the time left in his term no action would even need to be taken beyond the 25th being enacted. Before 21 days was up Trump would be out.

 

[cytg111]

Why would it matter, his political career is over after 4 years of fellating Trump. Unsure if VP get SS protection after they leave office.

By target on his back I mean a life long target on himself and family inviting anything from bullets to blades to things that go boom.

 

[zzyzxroad]

I am not surprised you choose to fight them over every inch of ground.

If humans could act rationally, we wouldn't be human. Our history is filled with countless examples of our very nature. An endless story of violence and conquest. All we truly know is the use of force upon the "other". Talking is only temporary reprieve, a ploy until we choose to resume violence. You choose to do that sooner rather than later. And you choose to do it without first addressing and marginalizing a current theme they are running with. You want to drive at them head on without first weakening their position.

Shame, that you do not understand the consequences of such a rash move. My suggestion is to yield an inch, grab the center, and then draw a line. Don't know if it'll matter in the end, but we will need every advantage we can muster if we are to survive the violence of our fellow Americans once it has begun.

So you support forcing every stat to do away with mail-in voting because these people haver bought into lies? That seem a tad absurd. Where do you draw the line with their baseless fears? Most of these folks are against gay mirage. Should we go take a step back and remove that right? You do understand why the republican leadership wants " voting reform" right?

 

[Jaskalas]

So you support forcing every stat to do away with mail-in voting because these people haver bought into lies? That seem a tad absurd. Where do you draw the line with their baseless fears? Most of these folks are against gay mirage. Should we go take a step back and remove that right? You do understand why the republican leadership wants " voting reform" right?

Do you know any Trumpers personally?

They believe the election was stolen.
They believe no elections will ever be won or matter from this point.
They believe Democracy has fallen and you no longer have their consent in ANY regard.
They believe COVID is a hoax used to weaken and control them.
They want violent force used today.

This ideology is spreading throughout social media. It has a recruitment drive. It is a political party. Their endgame is blood and terror. It is real, it is here, it is now. Marching on the Capitol was just a sideshow. That was peaceful compared to who is waiting on the side and looking for an excuse to go in hot. Sooner or later they'll organize into effective terror cells.

I support posturing in a way that weakens them. Before we draw a line and they cross it.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Do you know any Trumpers personally?

They believe the election was stolen.
They believe no elections will ever be won or matter from this point.
They believe Democracy has fallen and you no longer have their consent in ANY regard.
They believe COVID is a hoax used to weaken and control them.
They want violent force used today.

This ideology is spreading throughout social media. It has a recruitment drive. It is a political party. Their endgame is blood and terror. It is real, it is here, it is now. Marching on the Capitol was just a sideshow. That was peaceful compared to who is waiting on the side and looking for an excuse to go in hot. Sooner or later they'll organize into effective terror cells.

I support posturing in a way that weakens them. Before we draw a line and they cross it.

I do and they do. Pandering to their delusion isn't the answer. It is why we are here in the first place.

 

[cytg111]

Thank you Mike Pence .............................

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347326297249345537

 

[dank69]

He aided and abetted and defended a horrible want-to-be autocrat for 4+ years.
He did little to nothing while the nation/world was under a pandemic.

He doesn't get to fan the flames, stoke the fire and pour gasoline for nearly 1,500 days then with 14 days left decide to "do something good". Not to mention he had ZERO other choice.

He gets no thanks. He is awarded no points and may (his) God have mercy on his soul.

#fucktrump
#fuckpence

#fuckeveryconservative