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Kaido

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I find it significant that some people are so bad at relationships or so poorly matched, that their partner would rather just communicate with AI instead.

tbh I see a place for AI therapy. There's still a strong stigma attached to depression & therapy for men in America. Statistically, the suicide rate among men is nearly 4x that of women. Men represent 80% off all suicides, despite only making up 50% of the population. I've lost a number of friends that way, which has been awful. Having a private conversation system to talk to might end up helping a lot of people! There's a lot of interesting research on things like suicide prevention hotlines & how being empathetic is statistically more successful:

 
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Kaido

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Had Bonnie Tyler on my Youtube playlist today:


Forgot about this gem from the music video:



Playing with an AI re-imagining:



The whole vide is premium-grade meme material lol:



An 80's song deserves the Macross treatment:

 

Kaido

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Just watched CBS Saturday. They had a segment about developing a relationship with their AI. One guy was asked if he could give up using AI if his partner asked him to. His response was a bit shocking. Watch it if you can.

Just saw it. Man...worth the full watch for sure:

 

Kaido

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Neurospot CCTV AI Video Analytics:



SightBit AI Lifeguard:



 

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Regarding hallucinations/falsities, it'd be good if in the cases it's able to do so, actually test the results. I'm using my own career in IT as an example, it often muddles command structures together, giving Linux commands for PowerShell requests, or -x arguments where /x arguments are needed, etc. If it could actually perform the request it's authoring to you to verify the command can run without error (and incorporate that into a permanent memory) that would go a very long way.
 
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it often muddles command structures together
You need a 200B+ parameter model for that. Anything less is prone to errors. I have tried everything from 32B to 90B and none of them were able to give me code that compiled successfully except the 231B Deepseek one.

All these free AI services, I doubt they are using such dense models. Only the paid ones would utilize the highest parameter models.
 

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You need a 200B+ parameter model for that. Anything less is prone to errors. I have tried everything from 32B to 90B and none of them were able to give me code that compiled successfully except the 231B Deepseek one.

All these free AI services, I doubt they are using such dense models. Only the paid ones would utilize the highest parameter models.
Is it not possible to get the AI to 'try' the mechanism it suggests before suggesting it? Isn't that the basis of AI that trains to walk a robot, play a game, etc?
 
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Is it not possible to get the AI to 'try' the mechanism it suggests before suggesting it? Isn't that the basis of AI that trains to walk a robot, play a game, etc?
I bet that's what the "real" AI companies are doing for themselves and their bigger clients. The little people get the castrated LLMs that only spit out text. It could be possible to do a sort of chained reasoning analysis where the output of one LLM is fed into another LLM for verification and refinement of the results and even being fed into a compiler for finding out the syntax errors and fixing them automatically but it would take a fair bit of Python-fu.
 

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I bet that's what the "real" AI companies are doing for themselves and their bigger clients. The little people get the castrated LLMs that only spit out text. It could be possible to do a sort of chained reasoning analysis where the output of one LLM is fed into another LLM for verification and refinement of the results and even being fed into a compiler for finding out the syntax errors and fixing them automatically but it would take a fair bit of Python-fu.
It doesn't even have to be that advanced. Just post it to an online compiler and see if you get error text back.
 
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