The ancient honored dead........

[Moonbeam]

I have seen many churches, cemeteries, war memorials, and museums etc. lately traveling through Europe. Spent a day two days ago on a battlefield. Saw where the mass graves were dug with the killed and bayonette wounded. Saw the stone to honor the dead.

All those mostly young men who never had a chance to live full lives, dead and mourned by folk now also dead and mostly forgotten, such terrible wastes of lives, so so deeply sad for me, in a beautiful Scottish moor, the gentle wind and bird song, where once a savage battle took place. All for a failed attempt at Scottish independence, about which the Scots will vote in November.

And the museums are filled up with weapons, armor, uniforms and metals, with all forms of military regalia.

All that passion of war for causes long forgotten, for political aims irrelevant today. And we still do it even now. Young men willing to die for country or for something, something as unimportant as tribes fighting over a cave or who gets to drink from what water hole.

There are meadows of incredible beauty to be found here where I now am in Scotland, a nation full of glory and honor, but those meadows require a living soul to experience their deep silent harmony. It seems to me that humanity has to be asleep to fight for anything. I read many many names of those who died in WW1 & 2. So so very sad. Win or lose, there are always meadows for the peasants who are forced to clean up the battlefields and bury the dead.

 

[z1ggy]

So... They all hated themselves... orr...?

 

[Vanth]

It's collective suicide. When humankind fails to perceive alternative ways of experiencing life, the only foolproof option we come up with is to kill ourselves. The escape is always in being able to attain many modes of perception on reality and life. Those that are gifted in being able to experience life in multitude of states of mind will never go to war. Robbing the collective mindset by poisoning it and brainwashing it with propaganda and disinformation causes war and mass death.

Education, knowledge, logic, reason, wisdom, humility, awe, art and music are the harbingers to multistate modes of consciousness.

 

[Thebobo]

What can one say, war is stupid. Man is stupid, ego is the silent killer.

 

[bradly1101]

War is in our blood. We are very territorial, as are our animal cousins. Seeing this and the ravages of war should make us be able to rise above these basic instincts. But as the world becomes bereft of resources while becoming saturated with weapons I'm afraid we'll be seeing it a lot more.

 

[JEDIYoda]

So... They all hated themselves... orr...?

why be a dick???

 

[justoh]

Insensitive of you to be probably sarcastic about war and sacrifice

oh, shit, wait...

 

[Zebo]

We've been fighting since before we ran out of Africa thats the whole reason for migration in first place. Won't stop moonie. Unless we cull everyone with less than 140 IQ and for temperment. Oh wait. Hitler and Stalin were reported to be brilliant. Nah never ends.

 

[Moonbeam]

We've been fighting since before we ran out of Africa thats the whole reason for migration in first place. Won't stop moonie. Unless we cull everyone with less than 140 IQ and for temperment. Oh wait. Hitler and Stalin were reported to be brilliant. Nah never ends.

There was a time years ago when the Tibetans walked away. What humanity can't do a man may. I didn't think my post would end war bit to express my sadness at all the needless death, that the minds of the masses of people operate mechanically, and to maybe cause some to think.

 

[Texashiker]

express my sadness at all the needless death, that the minds of the masses of people operate mechanically, and to maybe cause some to think.

You are starting to sound like a conservative.

 

[IronWing]

There was a time years ago when the Tibetans walked away.

Sorry, that is a western myth. Tibet was never a peaceful paradise.

Anyway, I had the same feeling on my trip to England. Everywhere one goes there is a plaque to some ancient or modern massacre.

 

[Moonbeam]

Sorry, that is a western myth. Tibet was never a peaceful paradise.

Anyway, I had the same feeling on my trip to England. Everywhere one goes there is a plaque to some ancient or modern massacre.

Yup, today I was in a museum in northern Wales that had walls and walls of different medals, hundreds and hundreds of them.

 

[Bitek]

At least Scotland is still a modern country with memorials to mark there was a conflict, if the details may be forgotten.

Now think of the unknown dead who died for nations that no longer exist, for hills that have eroded away, cities that have been buried, and whose families cried in languages no longer spoken.
There is nothing to remember. All the reasons are as deeply buried and lost as the walls of the conquered city.

Today's war dead will eventually join them.

 

[brianmanahan]

regardless of what happens, we will all join then by 2080 or so

 

[Moonbeam]

regardless of what happens, we will all join then by 2080 or so

Moore's law tells us that computers will far exceed human intelligence by 2040 or so. Are you sure intelligent machines will allow you to die?

 

[Texashiker]

Are you sure intelligent machines will allow you to die?

Computers will probably see humanity as a virus and try to kill us.

 

[Moonbeam]

Computers will probably see humanity as a virus and try to kill us.

Good grief. They will be filled with love.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

All gave some, some gave all.

Fair winds and following seas to all who have served.

 

[Texashiker]

Good grief. They will be filled with love.

While you are in Scotland have a drink of Scottish whiskey for me.

My grandfather was Irish / Scottish.

 

[desy]

I see War as neither glorious or honorus.
Its the very worst of man usually decided by power positions taking advantage of the young men and women of a society for selfish gain or ideological BS