The cheap SSDs thread

[pbroussard]

One thing you're getting with a larger SSD is higher TBW.

This. When I got a laptop some 5 years ago I got a Crucial m.2 280GB, and I'll be darn if 2 months before the warranty ran out it failed TBW so no RMA for me. Overhead on ssd's is critical to save write count. If you care about it lasting that long...

 

[mikeford]

Ironically larger SSD means you need more TBW, small SSD kept to bare OS, is mostly read, rarely write.

 

[blckgrffn]

Ironically larger SSD means you need more TBW, small SSD kept to bare OS, is mostly read, rarely write.

Well... you still need to keep all of your active data somewhere? What's the point of saving one drive if you thrash another?

 

[pbroussard]

Well I call mine an OS drive, backup drive, photos etc are on a networked mechanical drive. I don't run any big storage games but I do have quite a bit running 24/7, including distributed computing.

 

[balloonshark]

So the WD Black SN750 is even cheaper this week at Newegg. $51.99 with promo code EMCEAHB25

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[mikeford]

I say keep the SSD small and OS only, but my personal PC is in its 5th years of transitioning to NAS, so it still has 20TB of rotating drives mostly full I am sorting through etc.

 

[you2]

I say keep the SSD small and OS only, but my personal PC is in its 5th years of transitioning to NAS, so it still has 20TB of rotating drives mostly full I am sorting through etc.

But woudln't you prefer to replace those rotating drives with ssd with they were cheap enough ?

 

[balloonshark]

** DEAL Looks to be DEAD **

1TB Samsung 870 EVO 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive $70.

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When I search for the drive on Dell's site this listing says it's temporarily OOS but I don't see that in the link above.

Here is the search link for reference. https://www.dell.com/en-us/search/Samsung 870 EVO 1TB

This could be a dud deal but at $70 it may be worth a chance unless dell is bad about refunds.f

Edit: Ok, I now see temporarily OOS on the product page. Deal is front page on slickdeals so things are happening quickly.

 

[mikeford]

But woudln't you prefer to replace those rotating drives with ssd with they were cheap enough ?

When 20TB of SSD is cheap there will be newer and faster that isn't cheap. My take is that speed as needed, but primary for storage is reliable, so main storage still going to be some kind of raid that allows for two or more drives to fail without loss.

 

[you2]

you over simply things. There are many advantages of ssd over mechnical drive beyond perceived speed. Hint companies like google and facebook spend insane money on ssd for cases that have nothing to do with speed.

When 20TB of SSD is cheap there will be newer and faster that isn't cheap. My take is that speed as needed, but primary for storage is reliable, so main storage still going to be some kind of raid that allows for two or more drives to fail without loss.

 

[blckgrffn]

FYI: Western Digital Appears to have silently degraded the performance of the WD Blue NVME drive like the Crucial P2.

Again, no new model, just "good luck out there"

Silent changes to Western Digital’s budget SSD may lower speeds by up to 50% [Updated]

Most people wouldn’t notice most of the time, but that doesn’t make it OK.

arstechnica.com

Which is a huge shame because the WD Blue was a power sipping, decent performing option. I just put one in my laptop to replace the original 256GB Toshiba model from ~2018 which was fine then but outclassed completely now. I am glad I bought it months ago.

Edit: Based on Chinese news outlet, but performance of the flash is suspiciously much more like the WD Green now. Calmed down the language I used

 

[you2]

Yea. I knew that about WD blue. You might be able to determine old/new via ssn on the outside of the package but to be honest there should be a class action suite about this sort of behavior. You buy a product because of the quality of that product if they change the quality of it they should give it a new name (but they don't since they are using the branding and reputation of a particular brand to get sales). I'm not a lawyer but it really sounds like bait and switch. Of course the manufacturer claims the new product meet the 'specs' (yea like the red drives really met specs...) but it still seems obvious this is bait and switch.

 

[you2]

Btw as an update to the above bit on wd blue this article indicates that WD will provide future models in the future (of course only time will tell):

Silent changes to Western Digital’s budget SSD may lower speeds by up to 50% [Updated]

Most people wouldn’t notice most of the time, but that doesn’t make it OK.

arstechnica.com

 

[VirtualLarry]

Eluktronics MANIX 1TB Ultra Performance Series PCIe NVMe 4.0 x 4 M.2 2280 Solid State Drive SSD Read/Write Speed up to 4,700MB/s and 1,800MB/s - MANIX1000GB-G4SS $114.99

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Seems that the premium for PCI-E 4.0 NVMe drives is coming way down, at least for the more "mediocre" performers (less than 7000MB/sec read and 6500MB/sec write).

 

[VirtualLarry]

ShellShocker daily deal, Intel 660p 1TB NVMe PCI-E 3.0 x4 SSD, QLC, $89.99.

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These are solid drives, been running one of them as my main drive on the rig for a few years. (For a while before, was running 2x in RAID-0. Nary a hiccup.

Look around, though, you can find PCI-E 4.0 Phison-based drives with 4500/3500 for like $115-150 if you look hard enough. Eluktronics had one on sale recently too.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Eluktronics MANIX 1TB Ultra Performance Series PCIe NVMe 4.0 x 4 M.2 2280 Solid State Drive SSD Read/Write Speed up to 4,700MB/s and 1,800MB/s - MANIX1000GB-G4SS $114.99

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[VirtualLarry]

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120GB SATA 'Kingbank' 2.5" SSD $22.99

 

[VirtualLarry]

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Orico 128GB M.2 SATA SSD $19.99

 

[MisterE]

Silicon Power 256GB SSD 3D NAND A55 SLC Cache Performance Boost SATA III 2.5" 7mm (0.28") Internal Solid State Drive (SP256GBSS3A55S25)
$28 + tax with free shipping

Amazon.com

 

[ElFenix]

*patiently waiting on a 2TB drive to appear*

 

[balloonshark]

*patiently waiting on a 2TB drive to appear*

What price range? I'm seeing a couple different ones for $180 on slickdeals. If interested just do a search for 2TB.

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+ $25 off w/ promo code 93STLTD67

https://www.newegg.com/crucial-mx500-2tb/p/N82E16820156175
With Promo Code: EMC2AZ9A738

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Promo code 93XRZ23

 

[VirtualLarry]

Newest Newegg email flyer lists Intel 660p 2TB (QLC, not high-performance) for $184.99, doesn't list a promo code.

 

[MisterE]

Silicon Power 2TB SSD 3D NAND A55 SLC Cache Performance Boost SATA III 2.5" 7mm (0.28") Internal Solid State Drive (SP002TBSS3A55S25)
$175 with free shipping but not currently in stock

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Performance-Internal-SP002TBSS3A55S25/dp/B07Q37V1C9

 

[VirtualLarry]

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Kingston NV1 2TB NVMe M.2 SSD $169.99 @ Newegg (ShellShocker)

 

[MisterE]

A little slow for an NVMe but an awesome price nonetheless (is probably QLC?), still lots faster than a SSD or spinning hard drive. 3 year warranty. Same price at Amazon:

Kingston NV1 2TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Internal SSD Up to 2100 MB/s SNVS/2000G
$170 with free shipping / Prime shipping

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-2280-Internal-SNVS-2000G/dp/B091BG4HDW

EDIT: According to the Kingston website, this Kingston 2TB NVMe has a fairly low TBW of 480TB...

SSDs - Solid State Drives as a hard drive replacement for desktop PCs, laptops and servers - Kingston Technology

SSDs can extend the lifecycle and dramatically improve the performance of a PC with higher speeds, greater durability and legendary Kingston reliability.

www.kingston.com