The downside of Crossfire

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
How come Anand had no prolbems with Xfire then?

Unfortunately Anandtech video based reviews have gone downhill.

that doesnt change the fact that they didnt have problems

i think this is the case of oh wait, anandtech's review doesnt support our argument that crossfire sucks so anands reviews must suck.

i on the other hand still cant believe people buy SLI systems.

Did you see my FEAR scores above? That is why people buy SLI systems.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
How come Anand had no prolbems with Xfire then?

Unfortunately Anandtech video based reviews have gone downhill.

that doesnt change the fact that they didnt have problems

i think this is the case of oh wait, anandtech's review doesnt support our argument that crossfire sucks so anands reviews must suck.

i on the other hand still cant believe people buy SLI systems.

Did you see my FEAR scores above? That is why people buy SLI systems.

Those aren't SCORES! They are BENCHMARKS. There is a difference.

 

[Nirach]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Soccerman06
How come Anand had no prolbems with Xfire then?

Unfortunately Anandtech video based reviews have gone downhill.

that doesnt change the fact that they didnt have problems

i think this is the case of oh wait, anandtech's review doesnt support our argument that crossfire sucks so anands reviews must suck.

i on the other hand still cant believe people buy SLI systems.

Did you see my FEAR scores above? That is why people buy SLI systems.

Those aren't SCORES! They are BENCHMARKS. There is a difference.

Well, if it was done with FEARs stress testing thing, it could be called a score.

Just thought I'd point that.. Minor technicality out..

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Crazyfool

Yeah, a guy getting beat down with a new system.

So, IMO, I've won without playing.

BTW- this is the last I'll respond to you. You've de-railed this good thread enough with your childish antics.[/quote]

You have GOT to be joking? You are seriously the biggest hypocrite on this board. YOU'RE the one who started this by telling Crazyfool he couldn't have an opinion on a product because he doesn't have first hand experience. You yourself call the product crap and talk about how poor it is.

On top of that, you want to tell others they are childish and immature??? WOW. Pot meet kettle.

Posters: "Rollo you're wrong"

Rollo: "I've got more video cards and better and I can afford nice stuff" - "You're a loser!"

I mean honestly, who?s the mature one in this argument? I said you've had no first hand use on the product, and you come back to tell me that you've owned more ATI video cards than me and you're sitting here fighting with others saying you've got a better rig? How immature is it to suggest that what you can afford automatically buys you intelligence on a subject.

Grow up child. I don't care if you're a paid freak or not. You should respect others and their opinions regardless if they own the hardware or not. You yourself are the BIGGEST offender of that rule yourself.

Here's a suggestion. You think you're some mad "baller" and you want to make this about who can afford what. Go buy a crossfire set and come back to us with a full review. All these other review places seem to have no problems. Let?s see your review

Insert some lame Rollo excuse here. He's too smart and rich to buy crossfire. He won't give a proper review.

 

[nRollo]

And the nutballs continue to go waaaaayyyy off topic. :roll:

:laugh:

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: Rollo
And the nutballs continue to go waaaaayyyy off topic. :roll:

:laugh:

You know, you do call a lot of names for someone hoping to become a mod.

This thread only went off topic because your antics.

 

[Steelski]

some people take this a bit too sertiously. There seem to be only a couple of decent posts here. yes some people have some problems with crossfire.
big whoop.
i think it will be fixed soon.
Dont tell me you all expected no flaw (dont say anything Rollo) to begin with. No such problem was exoperienced with the x800 crossfire so it will be brought to ATI´s attention.
It could seriously be DFI´s fault as someone pointed out if everyone went that way.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Rollo
And the nutballs continue to go waaaaayyyy off topic. :roll:

:laugh:

Such a hypocrite. It IS funny coming from you.

I got FEAR lets play it!!! So on topic.

 

[nRollo]

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[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Rollo
And the nutballs continue to go waaaaayyyy off topic. :roll:

:laugh:

What's next? Challenges to arm wrestling or drag racing? Assertion of "My dad can beat up your dad"?

I'm done with this thread till someone posts something about Crossfire.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Rollo
And the nutballs continue to go waaaaayyyy off topic. :roll:

:laugh:

What's next? Challenges to arm wrestling or drag racing? Assertion of "My dad can beat up your dad"?

I'm done with this thread till someone posts something about Crossfire.

Yeah you're so level headed.

He's going to play with all his history ATI cards that none of us can afford. The very mature guy he is. He never goes off topic or acts childish. It's always us.

Have fun Kettle

 

[KeepItRed]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Rollo
And the nutballs continue to go waaaaayyyy off topic. :roll:

:laugh:

What's next? Challenges to arm wrestling or drag racing? Assertion of "My dad can beat up your dad"?

I'm done with this thread till someone posts something about Crossfire.

Just to keep the topic online:

X1800XT 512MB Crossfire vs 7800GTX 512MB SLI

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool

Originally posted by: Rollo
And the nutballs continue to go waaaaayyyy off topic. :roll:

:laugh:

You know, you do call a lot of names for someone hoping to become a mod.

This thread only went off topic because your antics.

QFT

and don't worry, Crazyfool . . . we're on his "ignore" list. . . . thankfully . . .
. . . and now we have the "same" videocard :Q




he can stop calling my rig 'pathetic' . . . antique, maybe . . . not pathetic . . . i just ordered that $199 x850xt from Microcenter this morning *
. . . so now it's a faster "gaming rig" then that [slower] one with the 6800GT

:roll:



*after $50MIR

 

[Nextman916]

Yah ATi just slapped this one together my ass OP. is that why it took so long to get it out???? they obviously spent alot of time on it despite some quirks, sli also had numerous problems upon release.........3/3 ratio of negative experience HAH! more like 3/1000 if anything, your basically sayin that only 3 people have crossfire what about the other hundreds that do? Care to post any positive experiences? most reviewers seem to praise it. I am no fanboy of anykind to either side it just pisses me off that you would actually have to nerve to post 3 negative feedbacks to crossfire and use that as a conclusion.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: KeepItRed
Just to keep the topic online:

X1800XT 512MB Crossfire vs 7800GTX 512MB SLI

Just to be fair for those who may only look at the single page with HL2...

1
2

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: KeepItRed
X1800XT 512MB Crossfire vs 7800GTX 512MB SLI

That is one WEIRD review. (BTW why does every ATI fan on the planet link to HL2 benchmarks? LOL)

Why do I say "weird"?

Why are they comparing X1800XT Crossfire to a SINGLE 512 GTX at Serious Sam 2???
LOL- the single 512GTX holds it's own though!

Why do they change the colors on the graph for Splinter Cell, on the same page????
More important, why is a single 512GTX stomping SLI 512GTX flat on a game that scales well for SLI? Ooops.

Why are there no 512GTX SLI 19X12 benches when it was pulling away at 16x12?!?!
People who say AT reviews are bad need to read this one, it's like these guys are wasted!

Again, no 19X12 512GTX SLI at Q4 when it was pulling away at 16X12
I honestly don't know if we can trust anything in this review, so far we've got switched colors, switched framerates, and missing framerates. Not to mention he admits he's posting benches on games that he couldn't get to run right:

http://guru3d.com/article/content/302/10/

Both SLi and Crossfire have issues running in dual card mode in this game on our setup. Hey what can I tell ya .. we show it all. Even if it doesn't work 100%.

Mental note:
Guru of 3d- good forums and downloads- very bad reviews.

 

[deadseasquirrel]

Originally posted by: CP5670
That vsync thing is actually a major problem IMO, enough to turn me away from SLI. I really like SLI's massive performance increases in almost any game, new or old, but am finding some games unplayable due to the tearing. I'm going to go back to a single card, as I can use EVGA's step-up program to get a G71 (if it comes out before March 6) and I have a use for the second GT anyway.

What games are you getting tearing on? My thought is if your fps are going higher than your refresh rate, you need to increase your graphics settings higher, add more AA/AF, or increase res. With any modern game, you'll be hard-pressed to exceed the refresh rate of a good monitor (such as 1600x1200 at 100hz) even with a 512GTX SLI setup.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Nextman916
Yah ATi just slapped this one together my ass OP. is that why it took so long to get it out????

You're apparently assuming that taking a lot of time to do something means it's done "well"?
Sometimes people do bad work over long periods of time IRL- it's because adding time to a job doesn't magically improve it's quality.

they obviously spent alot of time on it despite some quirks, sli also had numerous problems upon release

Not like a 16X12 60Hz limitation for X850 Crossfire, and not like a crappy non geometry scaling fallback like tiling that you can't change for ALL Crossfire?

.........3/3 ratio of negative experience HAH! more like 3/1000 if anything, your basically sayin that only 3 people have crossfire what about the other hundreds that do?

I doubt 100s of people have Missfire. One of those three being a video editor at a prominent web review site lends it credibility?

Care to post any positive experiences? most reviewers seem to praise it. I am no fanboy of anykind to either side it just pisses me off that you would actually have to nerve to post 3 negative feedbacks to crossfire and use that as a conclusion.

You will see more and more Crossfire woes as people foolish enough to spend $1000 on it do so.

 

[KeepItRed]

Well now that the thread is alive, Serious Sam II and Doom III IMO are so highly optimized for Nvidia, there's no room for ATI. I'd rather find something comparing a game that's not optimized for anything. As for Guru3D....Maybe their Test Bed is just horrible.

 

[KeepItRed]

Originally posted by: Rollo
You will see more and more Crossfire woes as people foolish enough to spend $1000 on it do so.

Pssh at the rate ATI is dropping the X1800XT prices, the Master Cards will be virtually free!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: KeepItRed

Originally posted by: Rollo
You will see more and more Crossfire woes as people foolish enough to spend $1000 on it do so.

Pssh at the rate ATI is dropping the X1800XT prices, the Master Cards will be virtually free!

early adopters of SLI had similar "woes" . . .

i ain't looking at X-fire until i upgrade my rig - next year . . . by then ALL the bugs will be worked out.

 

[KeepItRed]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: KeepItRed

Originally posted by: Rollo
You will see more and more Crossfire woes as people foolish enough to spend $1000 on it do so.

Pssh at the rate ATI is dropping the X1800XT prices, the Master Cards will be virtually free!

early adopters of SLI had similar "woes" . . .

i ain't looking at X-fire until i upgrade my rig - next year . . . by then ALL the bugs will be worked out.

QFT, I'm estimating Catalyst 6.00 will have it all worked out.

 

[Keysplayr]

I think that what most folks are worried about is, even if R580/R600 is faster (single card to single card) than the G71/G80 counterparts, if ATI doesn't get Xfire working correctly in short order, ATI still will not be able to grab the crown due to SLI.

Hence, all the animosity here in this thread.

 

[dadach]

more like stupidity


to clarify...it is evident that xfire is much newer than sli so i don't understand how it is relevent comparing the two at the present day...compare early sli with early xfire...could it be that the nvidi**s are worried? surely not

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I think that what most folks are worried about is, even if R580/R600 is faster (single card to single card) than the G71/G80 counterparts, if ATI doesn't get Xfire working correctly in short order, ATI still will not be able to grab the crown due to SLI.

Hence, all the animosity here in this thread.

Could be I guess. Personally, it irritates me that the early SLI woes (as well as the current glitches) have conveniently been forgotten about, but if it's ATI's multi-gpu solution than grab the pitchforks and torches.