The Geo Metro is BACK!

[MegaVovaN]

metro sucks, esp. for that price.

Oh well, I like ppl that can't do math.

 

[cherrytwist]

I dated a hippie chick that drove one of these things (back in the early '90s).

 

[MisterJackson]

Originally posted by: tw1164
I got a speeding ticket in a metro once very embarrassing.

WTF?!....How?? Were you going downhill in San Fransisco

 

[EarthwormJim]

Originally posted by: miri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo_Metro

In the United States a single engine was available from 1989 through 1994: a 1.0 L I3 engine. Rated at 55 hp (39 kW), the small Suzuki-designed engine was the most fuel efficient production engine used in a GM car to date, boasting over 49 mpg in models with manual transmissions, and up to 39 mpg with the 3 speed automatic. Manual transaxle cars were able to achieve a 0-60 time of just over ten seconds.

Wow, not bad for a car that was available 19 years ago. You would think we could have a car now with even better MPG and performance and remain inexpensive 20 years later.

A Civic VX or HX would have been a wiser car to get. It gets similar mileage as a metro, and is a bit roomier.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: vi edit
$7300 for a 12 year old metro.

That woman is an idiot.

yeap. that is idiotic.

she had a good idea but she didnt think it all the way through. if she had paid say $1500-2k it would be great.

 

[LTC8K6]

Those Metros, Sprints, and Hondas of those years with the high mpg spew out a lot of Nox, though.

Not a good car to drive if you are trying to be environmentally friendly.

The high Nox emissions is why they had to stop selling them.

 

[allisolm]

3 cylinders of purse testosterone!

Purse testosterone?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: allisolm
3 cylinders of purse testosterone!

Purse testosterone?

That's when a woman carries her man's balls around in her purse.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Those Metros, Sprints, and Hondas of those years with the high mpg spew out a lot of Nox, though.

Not a good car to drive if you are trying to be environmentally friendly.

The high Nox emissions is why they had to stop selling them.

They did reduce that problem later, but lost about 10mpg or so. But some of that could be for the extra weight from safety equipment and also people not buying a car that got 50mpg as who cares gas is .99c < * a gallon i want HP and 0to60!!!

 

[novasatori]

I had a Geo Metro.

I accidentally bumped a dude when 3 cars in front of me slammed on the brakes, I literally just tapped him, and it put my car out of action.

Not the most durable I would say, I definitely wouldn't consider getting another.

 

[Fritzo]

I just bought a new HHR---damn thing is a wagon and gets 30MPG! With all the rebates now, I got it for $17K, where a used one was $15800, so it was a no brainer to go new. Anyway, GM needs to flood the market with cars based on it's 2.2L Ecotec engine. It's super efficient, clean, and cheap. If they did this instead of focusing on making their huge SUV's get 18mpg instead of 16, they'd be back on top again.

Speading that much on a car that old is stupid---they're probably spending more on the car than the extra gas is going to cost

 

[EarthwormJim]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Those Metros, Sprints, and Hondas of those years with the high mpg spew out a lot of Nox, though.

Not a good car to drive if you are trying to be environmentally friendly.

The high Nox emissions is why they had to stop selling them.

They did reduce that problem later, but lost about 10mpg or so. But some of that could be for the extra weight from safety equipment and also people not buying a car that got 50mpg as who cares gas is .99c < * a gallon i want HP and 0to60!!!

It mainly came from weight gains. Each generation of Civic has gotten significantly fatter and fatter (safety and interior room).

The last of the Civic HXs still had good mileage. I think a 2002 Civic HX had 44mpg highway.

It really pisses me off that most HXs and VXs have been riced out. Why they hell do they have to do an engine swap in one of the most fuel efficient gasoline cars ever! There's tons of Civic lx's that they could rice out (they weight difference is so small anyway, a lot came from lighter wheels).

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Those Metros, Sprints, and Hondas of those years with the high mpg spew out a lot of Nox, though.

Not a good car to drive if you are trying to be environmentally friendly.

The high Nox emissions is why they had to stop selling them.

They did reduce that problem later, but lost about 10mpg or so. But some of that could be for the extra weight from safety equipment and also people not buying a car that got 50mpg as who cares gas is .99c < * a gallon i want HP and 0to60!!!

It mainly came from weight gains. Each generation of Civic has gotten significantly fatter and fatter (safety and interior room).

The last of the Civic HXs still had good mileage. I think a 2002 Civic HX had 44mpg highway.

yeap. new civics are larger then old Accords.

I had a 83 HOnda Accord. i swear it got near 40 mpg. but it was a tiny hatchback.

man i loved that car (also had a 82,85,88,92 accords. great cars)

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: OdiN
People who live in smaller towns and more rural areas would be screwed.

No, they'd just sell their trucks/SUVs, buy compact cars, group multiple trips into one trip, conduct more business online/by-mail, etc. People adapt.

There's nothing that I can do - I have to drive to work every day.

Adapt. If your commute is cutting into your take-home pay, time to shop around for a new job.

I also own an SUV. What's so bad about SUV's? They are great for going camping.

Using utility vehicles for their utility is fine. Just be ready to pay more for camping/boating trips in the future. Just like we'll have to prepare for higher airfare in the future, higher food prices, higher prices for transported goods, etc.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: miri
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo_Metro

In the United States a single engine was available from 1989 through 1994: a 1.0 L I3 engine. Rated at 55 hp (39 kW), the small Suzuki-designed engine was the most fuel efficient production engine used in a GM car to date, boasting over 49 mpg in models with manual transmissions, and up to 39 mpg with the 3 speed automatic. Manual transaxle cars were able to achieve a 0-60 time of just over ten seconds.

Wow, not bad for a car that was available 19 years ago. You would think we could have a car now with even better MPG and performance and remain inexpensive 20 years later.

You don't want to be riding in that metro when even something like a Camry slams into you.

That $500-$1000 a year in gas savings comes at a serious tradeoff in safety.

Have you ever heard of the term "automotive arms race?" It has to end somewhere; someone will always have a bigger car and you've just got to get over it.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: OdiN
People who live in smaller towns and more rural areas would be screwed.

No, they'd just sell their trucks/SUVs, buy compact cars, group multiple trips into one trip, conduct more business online/by-mail, etc. People adapt.

There's nothing that I can do - I have to drive to work every day.

Adapt. If your commute is cutting into your take-home pay, time to shop around for a new job.

I also own an SUV. What's so bad about SUV's? They are great for going camping.

Using utility vehicles for their utility is fine. Just be ready to pay more for camping/boating trips in the future. Just like we'll have to prepare for higher airfare in the future, higher food prices, higher prices for transported goods, etc.

Well hoping for $6 is bad. Even if you don't own a car. Every good which is shipped that you purchase will increase in price. Services will increase where these services rely on gas. This is why I don't get why you would hope for higher gas prices - because they will affect you too.

My commute doesn't cut into my take home pay any more than is typical. Searching for a new job would not do any good. I'd have to drive to that one too, as I'm not likely to leave my area of expertise which lends itself to a more professional business environment - so finding any job that I could ride my bike to would likely never happen. Maybe a small startup company or something but I doubt there's any of that here where I'm at.

Is your motivation for wanting higher gas prices due to environmental concerns? The solution to that is not higher gas prices, but alternative fuel and energy sources. And I'm not talking any crap like E85. Problem with this is that the big oil companies have such a grip on the government that though you could have hugely more efficient means of travel today, oil companies have prevented this. They want as much money as possible from their product and they don't want any competition to it at all.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

I remember searching for the perfect words
I was hoping you might change your mind
I remember a soldier sleeping next to me

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Glad to see some Americans finally changing their habits.

Still crossing my fingers for some $6/gallon gas so we can make even bigger changes. More carpooling, more mass transit, less SUVs/trucks.

That's a pretty stupid statement.

Problem is that the vast majority of the US has no mass transit system. People who live in smaller towns and more rural areas would be screwed. Sure it works well in NY, but it's everywhere and there is the population to support it.

There's nothing that I can do - I have to drive to work every day. I honestly would ride my bike as much as I could, but that is impossible as I have to wear slacks and dress shirts every day as I work in a professional business environment and I can't ride a bike in that.

I also own an SUV. What's so bad about SUV's? They are great for going camping. I can fit everything I need in my car...but then there is no room left for anyone to sit but me. Plus the car doesn't do so well getting to some of the camping areas that I go to as they require a higher clearance vehicle, which = SUV/Truck. No I don't HAVE to go, but it keeps me sane. I also go 4 wheeling in it. It's not like I drive it every day here and there. I mostly drive my car and use the SUV for trips requiring more cargo space.

We can all just live in one metro-utopia.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: OdiN
People who live in smaller towns and more rural areas would be screwed.

No, they'd just sell their trucks/SUVs, buy compact cars, group multiple trips into one trip, conduct more business online/by-mail, etc. People adapt.

There's nothing that I can do - I have to drive to work every day.

Adapt. If your commute is cutting into your take-home pay, time to shop around for a new job.

I also own an SUV. What's so bad about SUV's? They are great for going camping.

Using utility vehicles for their utility is fine. Just be ready to pay more for camping/boating trips in the future. Just like we'll have to prepare for higher airfare in the future, higher food prices, higher prices for transported goods, etc.

You've got it all figured out, don't you? No, actually, you're just ignorant.

 

[Vic]

Those old Metros are total fall apart junk and very unsafe. Even at 50 mpg I would steer clear. A much better option would be a Civic/CRX.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Glad to see some Americans finally changing their habits.

Still crossing my fingers for some $6/gallon gas so we can make even bigger changes. More carpooling, more mass transit, less SUVs/trucks.

That's a pretty stupid statement.

Problem is that the vast majority of the US has no mass transit system. People who live in smaller towns and more rural areas would be screwed. Sure it works well in NY, but it's everywhere and there is the population to support it.

There's nothing that I can do - I have to drive to work every day. I honestly would ride my bike as much as I could, but that is impossible as I have to wear slacks and dress shirts every day as I work in a professional business environment and I can't ride a bike in that.

I also own an SUV. What's so bad about SUV's? They are great for going camping. I can fit everything I need in my car...but then there is no room left for anyone to sit but me. Plus the car doesn't do so well getting to some of the camping areas that I go to as they require a higher clearance vehicle, which = SUV/Truck. No I don't HAVE to go, but it keeps me sane. I also go 4 wheeling in it. It's not like I drive it every day here and there. I mostly drive my car and use the SUV for trips requiring more cargo space.

We can all just live in one metro-utopia.

Better yet. Live subconsciously in little pods and plug ourselves into some kind of interconnected grid.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Glad to see some Americans finally changing their habits.

Still crossing my fingers for some $6/gallon gas so we can make even bigger changes. More carpooling, more mass transit, less SUVs/trucks.

That's a pretty stupid statement.

Problem is that the vast majority of the US has no mass transit system. People who live in smaller towns and more rural areas would be screwed. Sure it works well in NY, but it's everywhere and there is the population to support it.

There's nothing that I can do - I have to drive to work every day. I honestly would ride my bike as much as I could, but that is impossible as I have to wear slacks and dress shirts every day as I work in a professional business environment and I can't ride a bike in that.

I also own an SUV. What's so bad about SUV's? They are great for going camping. I can fit everything I need in my car...but then there is no room left for anyone to sit but me. Plus the car doesn't do so well getting to some of the camping areas that I go to as they require a higher clearance vehicle, which = SUV/Truck. No I don't HAVE to go, but it keeps me sane. I also go 4 wheeling in it. It's not like I drive it every day here and there. I mostly drive my car and use the SUV for trips requiring more cargo space.

We can all just live in one metro-utopia.

yeap. damn the farmers, farm workers etc. that are needed.

though it would be nice to within walking distance of a bar.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

I have no idea why in the hell someone would pay $7,000+ for a 10+ year old Geo Metro. Are people really this unaware of better options?

I drive a 2000 Toyota Echo that gets 42mpg. I bought it for $6,000... back in 2003. Or even a Civic. Back in the day the Civic HX with manual or CVT was a fuel efficiency king, but also back then it went almost completely unnoticed due to normal gas prices.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
You've got it all figured out, don't you? No, actually, you're just ignorant.

Doesn't matter, because in the end I'm right about where gas prices are headed, and what consequences will be the result.

$4 this summer. $5 in 2009. $6 before the end of the decade.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: vi edit
$7300 for a 12 year old metro.

That woman is an idiot.

If she is driving 24,000 miles a year and can cut her fuel expense in half then how does that make her an idiot? She could save $200 a month just in fuel costs assuming she was driving something that got 20 mpg.