The Howard Stern Factor

[Bling]

Does Howard Stern's opinions have any factor in voting "Not-Bush"? He has such a huge market and millions of fans. His opinions do have a factor but how big is it going to be?

 

[Taggart]

Did he really have a big effect for the election of Pataki and Todd-Whitman? He claims he does. If so, he has a chance to maybe give Kerry a % point or 2 in the states he's broadcast in. I would think most of the states he's in are already going to Kerry.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Jim Rome claims that any time an athlete appears on his show they perform at a higher level in the near future. Does that mean it is true?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Taggart
Did he really have a big effect for the election of Pataki and Todd-Whitman? He claims he does. If so, he has a chance to maybe give Kerry a % point or 2 in the states he's broadcast in. I would think most of the states he's in are already going to Kerry.

Stern was here in KY until recently. KY went for Bush by about 13% in 2000.

 

[Arsynic]

Do the people who listen to Stern even know how to vote? Unless they make voting machines that say, "Fart once for Bush and fart twice for Kerry and then grab a complimentary copy of Hustler" Bush has nothing to worry about.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Arsynic
Do the people who listen to Stern even know how to vote? Unless they make voting machines that say, "Fart once for Bush and fart twice for Kerry and then grab a complimentary copy of Hustler" Bush has nothing to worry about.

Gufaw Gufaw Gufaw:roll:

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Arsynic
Do the people who listen to Stern even know how to vote? Unless they make voting machines that say, "Fart once for Bush and fart twice for Kerry and then grab a complimentary copy of Hustler" Bush has nothing to worry about.

Wow. Can we ask the same question about Bush's base? Can they sober up and pull the trailor to the voting location? Can they read beyond the level of "my pet goat"?

Isn't it fun to generalize and insult?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Arsynic
Do the people who listen to Stern even know how to vote? Unless they make voting machines that say, "Fart once for Bush and fart twice for Kerry and then grab a complimentary copy of Hustler" Bush has nothing to worry about.

Wow. Can we ask the same question about Bush's base? Can they sober up and pull the trailor to the voting location? Can they read beyond the level of "my pet goat"?

Isn't it fun to generalize and insult?

Why would you compare Stern's base to Bush's base? That doesn't make any sense.

Unless you are going to add 'All your bases are belong to us' and then I guess it might.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Arsynic
Do the people who listen to Stern even know how to vote? Unless they make voting machines that say, "Fart once for Bush and fart twice for Kerry and then grab a complimentary copy of Hustler" Bush has nothing to worry about.

This is a typically ignorant mischaracterization of his listener demographics - he actually has a relatively wealthy, well-educated audience.

Here is an article on his possible influence on the election.

 

[Todd33]

Why would you compare Stern's base to Bush's base? That doesn't make any sense.

Sorry, insert Hannity/O'Liely/Limbaugh/Savage where I said Bush (same base, but I'll play along).

 

[alchemize]

I'm a stern fan, but he won't influence my vote. He isn't exactly an intellectual

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Why would you compare Stern's base to Bush's base? That doesn't make any sense.

Sorry, insert Hannity/O'Liely/Limbaugh/Savage where I said Bush (same base, but I'll play along).

What are you talking about? Since when did Howard Stern become a political talk show host? I thought he was just a funny guy with a funny radio show. At least that's what it seems like when I listen to him interviewing people while they strip in his studio.

 

[Arsynic]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Arsynic
Do the people who listen to Stern even know how to vote? Unless they make voting machines that say, "Fart once for Bush and fart twice for Kerry and then grab a complimentary copy of Hustler" Bush has nothing to worry about.

Gufaw Gufaw Gufaw:roll:

A Stern listener, I see. Are you eating cheetos with the same hand you just used to scratch your ass?

I kid, I kid.

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Todd33

Why would you compare Stern's base to Bush's base? That doesn't make any sense.

Sorry, insert Hannity/O'Liely/Limbaugh/Savage where I said Bush (same base, but I'll play along).

What are you talking about? Since when did Howard Stern become a political talk show host? I thought he was just a funny guy with a funny radio show. At least that's what it seems like when I listen to him interviewing people while they strip in his studio.

Why are Hannity, O'Reilly, etc on a network that claims to be "fair and balanced"?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: cobalt

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Todd33

Why would you compare Stern's base to Bush's base? That doesn't make any sense.

Sorry, insert Hannity/O'Liely/Limbaugh/Savage where I said Bush (same base, but I'll play along).

What are you talking about? Since when did Howard Stern become a political talk show host? I thought he was just a funny guy with a funny radio show. At least that's what it seems like when I listen to him interviewing people while they strip in his studio.

Why are Hannity, O'Reilly, etc on a network that claims to be "fair and balanced"?

Would you all please give up? The guy used a horrible comparison and got called on it. You don't have to continue arguing an obviously losing argument just because you love saying the words HANNITY and O'REILLY negatively at every turn.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Todd33

Why would you compare Stern's base to Bush's base? That doesn't make any sense.

Sorry, insert Hannity/O'Liely/Limbaugh/Savage where I said Bush (same base, but I'll play along).

What are you talking about? Since when did Howard Stern become a political talk show host? I thought he was just a funny guy with a funny radio show. At least that's what it seems like when I listen to him interviewing people while they strip in his studio.

Howard has been active in politics and political interviews for years. Remember, Limbaugh started a funny guy on radio. Times change.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Todd33

Why would you compare Stern's base to Bush's base? That doesn't make any sense.

Sorry, insert Hannity/O'Liely/Limbaugh/Savage where I said Bush (same base, but I'll play along).

What are you talking about? Since when did Howard Stern become a political talk show host? I thought he was just a funny guy with a funny radio show. At least that's what it seems like when I listen to him interviewing people while they strip in his studio.

Howard has been active in politics and political interviews for years. Remember, Limbaugh started a funny guy on radio. Times change.

So his show is a political talk show now and that's it? I could have sworn I saw him on TV the other night with some porn star stripping for him (which I didn't mind ).

It's like saying that Tony Bruno made a political comment once so he is now a political talk show host who used to talk about baseball.

 

[Todd33]

Did anyone say he was a political talk show host? What was the point of this again? Oh ya, you were nitpicking about what catagory a talk show falls into so that they can be compared.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Did anyone say he was a political talk show host? What was the point of this again? Oh ya, you were nitpicking about what catagory a talk show falls into so that they can be compared.

Actually, yah, because umm it makes sense to compare things of similar content? Would you compare Art Bell to Al Franken?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

So his show is a political talk show now and that's it? I could have sworn I saw him on TV the other night with some porn star stripping for him (which I didn't mind ).

It's like saying that Tony Bruno made a political comment once so he is now a political talk show host who used to talk about baseball.

In all fairness, the E! show is not the same as the radio show. For ratings purposes they select more or less only the celebrity interviews and hot-babe segments, which are just a small part of the radio show.

Howard has, in fact, become so politicized in recent months that many of his core fan base is getting frustrated with it. That said, his ratings have soared in recent months, so obviously the controversy has helped him. In general I have seen a lot of people who think they hate Stern be surprised by what the show is like when they actually tune in, and become fans. Indeed, this was what happened to me, back in 1996 or so.

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I'm a stern fan, but he won't influence my vote. He isn't exactly an intellectual

ahahahahahahaha. and bush is? ahahahahahahaha

 

[Bling]

The great thing about Stern is that he talks about and does things that are interesting. Most of them are gross or immature but it is great satire to the human condition. I don't think that's the point of this thread however.

If you chose to listen to a radio show for 1/2 hour every work day for 20 weeks and at least once everytime this show said "Don't vote President A". What are the chances that you would change your opinion or try to change the opinions of those around you? Now if this show had 20 million adult listeners, what kind of effect does this have?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Arsynic

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Arsynic
Do the people who listen to Stern even know how to vote? Unless they make voting machines that say, "Fart once for Bush and fart twice for Kerry and then grab a complimentary copy of Hustler" Bush has nothing to worry about.

Gufaw Gufaw Gufaw:roll:

A Stern listener, I see. Are you eating cheetos with the same hand you just used to scratch your ass?

I kid, I kid.

Actually I haven't listened to Stern in years and I eat my Cheetos with my left hand and scratch my ass with my right hand.

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
What are you talking about? Since when did Howard Stern become a political talk show host? I thought he was just a funny guy with a funny radio show. At least that's what it seems like when I listen to him interviewing people while they strip in his studio.

I think Stern is potentially going to have a significant impact. Stern was hugely pro-Bush after 9/11 and the commencement of the two wars thereafter. When he began to publically change his mind, the FCC jumped all over his case allegedly for shows broadcast almost a decade ago.

Stern's influence will be far more than the usual right (or left) wing pundits, his opinions and overrage come from the heart, and from things the government is doing wrong to him, rather than just being some pundit spewing his/her opinions to the already converted. Stern's audience includes a lot of pro and anti-Bush people, and a lot of people somewhere in the middle. The usual political pundit's audience is already the faithful to that viewpoint-they just listen for reinforcement, mostly.

People who don't listen to Stern frequently knock Stern's allegedly lack of intellectualism. Listen to him speak on Bush, the FCC or other serious subjects. His views are nearly always quite clear, well reasoned, concise, on point and thoughtful and have little to do with the entertainment aspect of his show. He very effectively communicates some of the outrage many of us ordinary citizens feel with the direction Bush and his crew are taking this country.

PS-I hold a post-graduate degree (doctorate), practice one of the traditional professions and am a few years older than Stern. I think there are more people like me in his audience than is commonly given credit for.