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OptimumSlinky

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No drive means no blu-ray player. Center of your entertainment it is not.

Again, you're assuming most people buy Blu-Rays. They don't. Most people stream Netflix/Hulu/AmazonPrime on their big 65" LED TV via their console and I'd be surprised if they even have any external speakers.

My friends all call me a snob because I won't play split-screen, have external speakers (which aren't even that great and hardly "audiophile"), and prefer BR to streaming.

We are NOT representative of the "mode" (most common) consumer.
 

purbeast0

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Again, you're assuming most people buy Blu-Rays. They don't. Most people stream Netflix/Hulu/AmazonPrime on their big 65" LED TV via their console and I'd be surprised if they even have any external speakers.

My friends all call me a snob because I won't play split-screen, have external speakers (which aren't even that great and hardly "audiophile"), and prefer BR to streaming.

We are NOT representative of the "mode" (most common) consumer.

link to this info that "most people stream" content? i'd love to see it.

Number of Redbox movies rented per day 1.2 million

http://www.statisticbrain.com/redbox-statistics/
 

Newell Steamer

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I'm over hating them,... since I haven't, nor will ever, used them for a long time now.

Just a horrid experience. Especially their practice of selling opened games as new. Shelf Copies as they call it. Ick.
 

Tweak155

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Again, you're assuming most people buy Blu-Rays. They don't. Most people stream Netflix/Hulu/AmazonPrime on their big 65" LED TV via their console and I'd be surprised if they even have any external speakers.

My friends all call me a snob because I won't play split-screen, have external speakers (which aren't even that great and hardly "audiophile"), and prefer BR to streaming.

We are NOT representative of the "mode" (most common) consumer.

You're assuming most people DON'T buy blu rays (without a source), although I'm inclined to agree with you.
 

Doppel

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Good article on Polygon today about the "Cold War" between digital, retailers, and hardware makers.
Where have I seen this before? Oh yeah, Blockbuster's 28 days release thing.

This screams of insane desperation on the part of Gamestop to fight the inevitable train charging inexorably down the tracks at its car, stuck on the tracks and about to get creamed.

I genuinely believe anybody of the view that digital distribution is not the huge bulk of distribution in the future (perhaps some fringe deployment model like on thumb drives, once discs fully die out for those living in the sticks with no good broadband) is simply ignorant of technology and consumer trends.

Gamestop doesn't have as much leverage as that article pretends. Honestly let's say Microsoft or Sony said all games are released digitally on our timeline and Gamestop said okay screw you we won't carry PS4 anymore. Who loses there? It's suicide for Gamestop.
 

cmdrdredd

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Gamestop does have leverage because a good percentage of systems are purchsed from there plus the midnight releases etc. They are a pretty big name. Lots of families know them because of their presence in the malls etc. It would be hard to push them out overnight like people are suggesting.

When companies stop capping our internet and bring fiber nationwide then we can talk. Until then, downloading games isn't going to be the way a majority of people get them. The US is still woefully behind much of the world for availability of fast internet.
 
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Doppel

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When companies stop capping our internet and bring fiber nationwide then we can talk. Until then, downloading games isn't going to be the way a majority of people get them.
Most of the US doesn't have caps on their broadband. In any case, your use of the term "until then" means we're both on the same page, I think, just perhaps don't agree on when--but that's less important than if.

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This thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2367315

Is an example of why Gamestop is dead in the water.
 

cmdrdredd

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Most of the US doesn't have caps on their broadband. In any case, your use of the term "until then" means we're both on the same page, I think, just perhaps don't agree on when--but that's less important than if.

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This thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2367315

Is an example of why Gamestop is dead in the water.

Um...there are more people wanting physical games there. I dont see what you are saying lol.

Honestly the biggest hurdle I see is marketing. You can put up posters, standees, box art etc etc in the stores and it is eye catching. Not everyone keeps up on the latest ign or GameSpot news so they see new games advertised in the malls, best buy and other stores. Without a physical presence in those stores it might be a bit more difficult to get the word out there about an upcoming game. I remember people not even knowing GTA 5 was coming until they saw a poster at gamestop. I dont know how they will make that transition and still get their games advertised as easily.
 
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Doppel

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Um...there are more people wanting physical games there. I dont see what you are saying lol.

Honestly the biggest hurdle I see is marketing. You can put up posters, standees, box art etc etc in the stores and it is eye catching. Not everyone keeps up on the latest ign or GameSpot news so they see new games advertised in the malls, best buy and other stores. Without a physical presence in those stores it might be a bit more difficult to get the word out there about an upcoming game. I remember people not even knowing GTA 5 was coming until they saw a poster at gamestop. I dont know how they will make that transition and still get their games advertised as easily.

My point is a simple one:30% of responders opted for digital. Do you think the same poll taken five years ago would have bad the same response rate?
 

mmntech

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I've noticed GameStop has been creeping up their prices in Canada. Was in there on the weekend and they had Tomb Raider listed for $64.99. It's amazing how quickly they are to up it when the dollar goes down, but how slow they were to lower them when it's up.

That alone will convince me to buy more used games, and pick new ones up digital only. Not going back to the days of $70 games. Price goes up buy my disposable income stays the same.
 

gothamhunter

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Most of the US doesn't have caps on their broadband.

Ahem

http://gigaom.com/2013/11/15/data-cap-2013/

Specifically:
We wrote our original chart in October 2012, noting that at that time 64 percent of Americans were covered by a cap at the end of 2011. Today (or rather, at the end of the second quarter) the percent of American broadband subscribers covered by a cap remains the same. However, the caps themselves are changing.
 
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KlokWyze

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Used to work @ Game Crazy. Such fun times. Customers would hang out at the store, we would have Soul Cal 2 & Halo sessions regularly. I would occasionally grab a few beers and we would game after we closed. Good times!

Gamestop doesn't have the same vibe. Very "corporate" feeling, plus all the heads at my local one are just dweeby punks. I get the "rewards membership" thing purely for the magazine, but occasionally I go in to buy cheap used games. I must say, I wouldn't care if it went away. Best part is Game Informer.
 

sweenish

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If you guys are going to debate, can you do it with more actual statistics and less "I'm applying my ridiculously small subset of data to the entire country" bull? Or maybe stop pretending that you're somehow in tune with the entire country with its very different regional makeups and infrastructures?
 

Tweak155

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If you guys are going to debate, can you do it with more actual statistics and less "I'm applying my ridiculously small subset of data to the entire country" bull? Or maybe stop pretending that you're somehow in tune with the entire country with its very different regional makeups and infrastructures?

Welcome to AnandTech.
 

BikeJunkie

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downloading games isn't going to be the way a majority of people get them.

Microsoft Just Declared War on GameStop

The video game industry is shifting toward digital distribution. At some future date, physical game discs will simply cease to exist -- gamers will download their purchases directly over the Internet.
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Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it would begin experimenting with digital game discounts ... This is such a tremendous blow to GameStop's business model that it's difficult for me to overstate the matter.
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To be clear, Microsoft has said this is only a test; a trial balloon to gauge gamers' reactions. But if this were to become a common trend -- a discounted, digital version of a game offered shortly after its release -- GameStop would have a real crisis on its hands. Gamers may prefer to buy physical when the digital game is the same price, but a digital game offered at a 33% discount would be an offer most could not refuse. GameStop would be forced to counter with its own price cuts, or lose out on business entirely.
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But that's just Microsoft, and as I've pointed out, the Xbox One isn't even selling well. (Not only am I constantly being proven right about GameStop, I was also proven right about the Xbox ONE... see that thread for more of my glory ) Each month, subscribers to Sony's PlayStation+ service get a slate of free digital games that they can download and play so long as they remain a member. While this service has been available for years, it's much more a threat to GameStop today than it's ever been in the past.
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The move toward digital distribution is in full swing. The debate is no longer about the inevitability of the outcome, but about how long it will take. Wedbush's Michael Pachter, a notable GameStop bull, believes the company has at least 10 years left on its core business. (Even GameStop is starting to have trouble drinking the Kool-Aid)
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While that's certainly possible, I would be utterly shocked if the company manages to survive another five years, let alone 10.(Hey they stole my number! )
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Its two major suppliers, Microsoft and Sony, are moving against it aggressively.

*chuckle chuckle*

I'm accustomed to being right, but for some reason the arguments over GS and Xbox ONE have been particularly delicious
 
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