Discussion The impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden

UNCjigga

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Kevin McCarthy is folding once again like the sad sack he is and giving MTG and the crazies the impeachment hearing they wanted. Won’t even take a vote so that no sane Republicans have to go on record supporting or opposing the measure and risk losing the base. Spineless cowards, the lot of them. The real question now, however, is whether Democrats (both elected and D-leaning citizenry) will rally to Biden’s defense.

I expect Pelosi and Jeffries will stop at nothing to expose this for the farce that it is. They will not repeat the mistake of the GOP and fail to show up—they will absolutely challenge the GOP narrative.

BUT will this really blow up in the GOP’s face given how low Biden is polling now? Will the average independent or left-lean voter really care or show outrage at a sham impeachment? I feel like that’s what McCarthy is really trying to test. If Dems don’t rally and polls don’t show any support, then the impeachment will have succeeded in that Biden is perceived as damaged goods, regardless of whether the House vote even succeeds. I worry the country as a whole (apart from MAGA crazies) will be apathetic and just accept this as a political maneuver and “par for the course” now.

 

Pens1566

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It would have failed a floor vote.

This is pressure from the "batshit wing" to either impeach or be replaced as speaker. Gonna look stupid once all the calls for proof result in vaporware.
 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
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It would have failed a floor vote.

This is pressure from the "batshit wing" to either impeach or be replaced as speaker. Gonna look stupid once all the calls for proof result in vaporware.
I could be wrong, but the majority party gets to make up a good part of the impeachment rules on the fly to suit whatever whims they have. They don’t have to require any “evidence” or show any crime for impeachment. They don’t even have to allow cameras if they think it’ll make them look bad. Oh and the GOP will absolutely try to limit who or how many Dems get to speak during an impeachment hearing.
 
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Pens1566

Lifer
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I could be wrong, but the majority party gets to make up a good part of the impeachment rules on the fly to suit whatever whims they have. They don’t have to require any “evidence” or show any crime for impeachment. They don’t even have to allow cameras if they think it’ll make them look bad. Oh and the GOP will absolutely try to limit who or how many Dems get to speak during an impeachment hearing.

Yeah, it'll be a sham.

Something something Burisma something something "big guy".
 

trenchfoot

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What concerns me though is that it seems most Republicans have the notion that impeaching Trump was exclusively a political tactic and was absolutely not justifiable under the Laws of the Land, a hoax Kangaroo Court/Witch Hunt meant to "smear Trump's impeccable record as the leader of the nation". Ergo, they simply want to repay that favor despite the overwhelming preponderance of evidence that Trump was guilty of every accusation made against him.

Revenge is what motivates the Republicans for humiliating their Dear Leader as far as impeaching Biden is concerned. Well along with the votes the extremist wing of the party will get and the leverage that goes with it. It's MTG and her fellow extremist's way of anchoring their agenda within the party's war plans for "taking back what was stolen from them". lol
 

Jaskalas

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then the impeachment will have succeeded in that Biden is perceived as damaged goods
Perceived?
The Bidens took in millions from foreign countries / governments. That's an indisputable fact, correct?
Only against Trump and his own grifting / bribery could the Biden's not be "damaged goods".
But for Democrats to lower the bar to Trump....

If it was an internal party matter, the Bidens should be thrown out on their asses.
 

HomerJS

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Perceived?
The Bidens took in millions from foreign countries / governments. That's an indisputable fact, correct?
Only against Trump and his own grifting / bribery could the Biden's not be "damaged goods".
But for Democrats to lower the bar to Trump....

If it was an internal party matter, the Bidens should be thrown out on their asses.
Which Bidens? You need to know that if you are going to have an impeachment.

By "took in" you mean worked for it? If that illegal? Who "took it in"?
 

Moonbeam

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Conservatives display traits of behavior characteristic of conservatives. One of them is a tendency to ridicule and blame people as evil. They are people full of disgust, repelled by ugliness and condemned to see it everywhere. And along with that goes the natural assumption that everybody thinks like they do. They can't help themselves. They will try to tar Biden with accusations of evil just like they did to Bill Clinton and what they will garner as a reward is what they got last time, a rise in their enemies approval ratings with the American people. Everybody believes that other people are just like them. They fail to note that disgusted people are also disgusting to be around. They want everybody to have his or her nose constantly rubbed in other people's shit and that appeals only to the most disgusting among us.
 

hal2kilo

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I could be wrong, but the majority party gets to make up a good part of the impeachment rules on the fly to suit whatever whims they have. They don’t have to require any “evidence” or show any crime for impeachment. They don’t even have to allow cameras if they think it’ll make them look bad. Oh and the GOP will absolutely try to limit who or how many Dems get to speak during an impeachment hearing.
They have nothing. It really doesn't matter to them though. This is all a show.
 

eelw

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Repugnicans are behind. Going to be hard to impeach Biden 3 times before election
 
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HomerJS

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They have nothing. It really doesn't matter to them though. This is all a show.
Has anyone asked what is the high crime or misdemeanor? You have to have a crime before inquiry.

If this begins, Democrats in the Senate Judiciary Committee should immediately subpoena bank records from all billionaires that gave money or lavish gifts to SCOTUS members.

Let loose the dogs of war.
 

NWRMidnight

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Perceived?
The Bidens took in millions from foreign countries / governments. That's an indisputable fact, correct?
Only against Trump and his own grifting / bribery could the Biden's not be "damaged goods".
But for Democrats to lower the bar to Trump....

If it was an internal party matter, the Bidens should be thrown out on their asses.
If that claim included Joe Biden, you would have said Joe Biden, as he is the ONLY one that matters.. But you didn't, which tells all of us, you know damn good an well, that Joe isn't implicated in anything and you are just trying to manipulate people into arguing over bullshit. Trump has broken the law on many different fronts at many different levels.. some extreme.. He set the bar for the crimes He commited, nobody else did. so fuck off with your manipulation and bullshit!
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Any Republican who votes to impeach is evil. At this point that is a firm line in the sand.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Perceived?
The Bidens took in millions from foreign countries / governments. That's an indisputable fact, correct?
Only against Trump and his own grifting / bribery could the Biden's not be "damaged goods".
But for Democrats to lower the bar to Trump....

If it was an internal party matter, the Bidens should be thrown out on their asses.

Oh, they're impeaching Hunter? Whew, that's a relief.
 

vi edit

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Oct 28, 1999
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Perceived?
The Bidens took in millions from foreign countries / governments. That's an indisputable fact, correct?
Only against Trump and his own grifting / bribery could the Biden's not be "damaged goods".
But for Democrats to lower the bar to Trump....

If it was an internal party matter, the Bidens should be thrown out on their asses.
And where are you screaming from the rooftops on the billions Kushner got from the middle east?

I'm totally gonna what about that cognitive dissonance.
 

gothuevos

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I don't know what they are waiting for? They certainly have the votes to do it. He won't be convicted in the Senate, obviously, but the GOP can go ahead and claim victory nonetheless.

Just get this over with.
 
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