The Military Draft

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: jemcam


It depends on what the military decision is. That's pretty broad. If the decision is whether or not to invade a country, that belongs at the Executive branch. If the decision is how the country should be taken, it's up to the military.

I wasn't asking about Frontline. I was asking who should be making military decisions. The heads of the military with decades of military experience and training, or a politician?

EXACTLY!

Two counrties were invaded with POLITICIANS deciding military strategy - Vietnam and Iraq (2003)

I haven't seen any proof of politicains running the Iraq operations, but I have no argument with you. Didn't I say that once already? I'm guessing you're just trying to pick a cyberfight with me.

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: jemcam

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: jemcam


It depends on what the military decision is. That's pretty broad. If the decision is whether or not to invade a country, that belongs at the Executive branch. If the decision is how the country should be taken, it's up to the military.

I wasn't asking about Frontline. I was asking who should be making military decisions. The heads of the military with decades of military experience and training, or a politician?

EXACTLY!

Two counrties were invaded with POLITICIANS deciding military strategy - Vietnam and Iraq (2003)

I haven't seen any proof of politicains running the Iraq operations, but I have no argument with you. Didn't I say that once already? I'm guessing you're just trying to pick a cyberfight with me.

Not trying to pick a fight at all. Just looking for your opinion.

 

[SuperTool]

I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

So join up and serve your country?

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

So join up and serve your country?

I have other priorities.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

You're kidding right? Do you like stacking bullshit upon more bullshit?

Congratulations, you really do live up to your user name.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

You're kidding right? Do you like stacking bullshit upon more bullshit?

Congratulations, you really do live up to your user name.

Are you volunteering to go?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

You're kidding right? Do you like stacking bullshit upon more bullshit?

Congratulations, you really do live up to your user name.

Are you volunteering to go?

Just after you.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

You're kidding right? Do you like stacking bullshit upon more bullshit?

Congratulations, you really do live up to your user name.

Are you volunteering to go?

Just after you.

My point exactly.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

You're kidding right? Do you like stacking bullshit upon more bullshit?

Congratulations, you really do live up to your user name.

Are you volunteering to go?

Just after you.

My point exactly.

Your point nothing. If the numbers get so bad, I'd enlist. And I sure as hell wouldn't dodge a draft if (meaning never) there was one.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

You're kidding right? Do you like stacking bullshit upon more bullshit?

Congratulations, you really do live up to your user name.

Are you volunteering to go?

Just after you.

My point exactly.

Your point nothing. If the numbers get so bad, I'd enlist. And I sure as hell wouldn't dodge a draft if (meaning never) there was one.

So you aint in a hurry to get blown up or get your head chopped off?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

You're kidding right? Do you like stacking bullshit upon more bullshit?

Congratulations, you really do live up to your user name.

Are you volunteering to go?

Just after you.

My point exactly.

Your point nothing. If the numbers get so bad, I'd enlist. And I sure as hell wouldn't dodge a draft if (meaning never) there was one.

So you aint in a hurry to get blown up or get your head chopped off?

They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool
I just get that feeling that a draft is coming if we elect Bush. I dunno, but I just get that feeling

Why do you get that feeling? He can't do anything on his own, but I guess you didn't pick that up from the many other people in this thread that told you that.

I dunno, with all those explosives missing in Iraq, where are they gonna get volunteers to go get blown up to protect Haliburton trucks?

You're kidding right? Do you like stacking bullshit upon more bullshit?

Congratulations, you really do live up to your user name.

Are you volunteering to go?

Just after you.

My point exactly.

Your point nothing. If the numbers get so bad, I'd enlist. And I sure as hell wouldn't dodge a draft if (meaning never) there was one.

So you aint in a hurry to get blown up or get your head chopped off?

They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

1100 enough for you?

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg
They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

1100 enough for you?

Putting words in my mouth? I'm not trying to mock their deaths, but look at the big picture. I'll take a guess of 100,000 US Troops deployed in Iraq, there are probably more, but let's go lower.

1111 deaths / 100,000 troops = ~1%

Edit: I was way off, as of March 31, 2004, there were 211,028 soldiers deployed in Iraq.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg
They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

1100 enough for you?

Putting words in my mouth? I'm not trying to mock their deaths, but look at the big picture. I'll take a guess of 100,000 US Troops deployed in Iraq, there are probably more, but let's go lower.

1111 deaths / 100,000 troops = ~1%

Edit: I was way off, as of March 31, 2004, there were 211,028 soldiers deployed in Iraq.

9/11 dead: 3000
Us population 300000000
Look at the big picture.

 

[T2T III]

I hope it comes back. A bunch of lazy Libs need to learn what freedom is like because of our fine military. And, yes, I do have a child which could be affected by the draft if it were ever implemented again.

 

[Darilus]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg
They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

1100 enough for you?

Putting words in my mouth? I'm not trying to mock their deaths, but look at the big picture. I'll take a guess of 100,000 US Troops deployed in Iraq, there are probably more, but let's go lower.

1111 deaths / 100,000 troops = ~1%

Edit: I was way off, as of March 31, 2004, there were 211,028 soldiers deployed in Iraq.

9/11 dead: 3000
Us population 300000000
Look at the big picture.

You're comparing civilian deaths from the WTC to soldiers who signed up?

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg
They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

1100 enough for you?

Putting words in my mouth? I'm not trying to mock their deaths, but look at the big picture. I'll take a guess of 100,000 US Troops deployed in Iraq, there are probably more, but let's go lower.

1111 deaths / 100,000 troops = ~1%

Edit: I was way off, as of March 31, 2004, there were 211,028 soldiers deployed in Iraq.

9/11 dead: 3000
Us population 300000000
Look at the big picture.

You do you realize the more and more you post, the more and more you come off as an idot, right?
Seems as if most of what you post came from something such as "Liberalism for Dummies."
Those that died in the World Trade center did not sign up and go to work knowing the possibility of getting killed in action while at work. Every memeber the US military sign up knowning that their are certain risks that they may encounter.

 

[Klixxer]

Anyone who don't think it will come within a decade is fooling himself.

130k+ for a nation that has NO weapons and not enough to secure? Now take Iran into the equation, oopsie, 1000K more needed.

If you step into somehing this sticky, it won't just let go.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg
They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

1100 enough for you?

Putting words in my mouth? I'm not trying to mock their deaths, but look at the big picture. I'll take a guess of 100,000 US Troops deployed in Iraq, there are probably more, but let's go lower.

1111 deaths / 100,000 troops = ~1%

Edit: I was way off, as of March 31, 2004, there were 211,028 soldiers deployed in Iraq.

9/11 dead: 3000
Us population 300000000
Look at the big picture.

You do you realize the more and more you post, the more and more you come off as an idot, right?
Seems as if most of what you post came from something such as "Liberalism for Dummies."
Those that died in the World Trade center did not sign up and go to work knowing the possibility of getting killed in action while at work. Every memeber the US military sign up knowning that their are certain risks that they may encounter.

still, u play the numbers game to dimish the deaths of some, you better be ready to dimish the deaths of all based on the same rule.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg
They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

1100 enough for you?

Putting words in my mouth? I'm not trying to mock their deaths, but look at the big picture. I'll take a guess of 100,000 US Troops deployed in Iraq, there are probably more, but let's go lower.

1111 deaths / 100,000 troops = ~1%

Edit: I was way off, as of March 31, 2004, there were 211,028 soldiers deployed in Iraq.

9/11 dead: 3000
Us population 300000000
Look at the big picture.

You do you realize the more and more you post, the more and more you come off as an idot, right?
Seems as if most of what you post came from something such as "Liberalism for Dummies."
Those that died in the World Trade center did not sign up and go to work knowing the possibility of getting killed in action while at work. Every memeber the US military sign up knowning that their are certain risks that they may encounter.

still, u play the numbers game to dimish the deaths of some, you better be ready to dimish the deaths of all based on the same rule.

Did I or did I not say that I wasn't mocking their deaths?

The fact of the matter is, those doing their jobs in the WTC did NOT ask to be killed. However, those that enlist in the military knew the risks, and took them. They are very brave people, and I respect them dearly.

 

[EXman]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: mwtgg
They don't need me.

How many soldiers are deployed in Iraq? How many fatalities have there been so far?

1100 enough for you?

Putting words in my mouth? I'm not trying to mock their deaths, but look at the big picture. I'll take a guess of 100,000 US Troops deployed in Iraq, there are probably more, but let's go lower.

1111 deaths / 100,000 troops = ~1%

Edit: I was way off, as of March 31, 2004, there were 211,028 soldiers deployed in Iraq.

9/11 dead: 3000
Us population 300000000
Look at the big picture.

You do you realize the more and more you post, the more and more you come off as an idot, right?
Seems as if most of what you post came from something such as "Liberalism for Dummies."
Those that died in the World Trade center did not sign up and go to work knowing the possibility of getting killed in action while at work. Every memeber the US military sign up knowning that their are certain risks that they may encounter.

still, u play the numbers game to dimish the deaths of some, you better be ready to dimish the deaths of all based on the same rule.

Did I or did I not say that I wasn't mocking their deaths?

The fact of the matter is, those doing their jobs in the WTC did NOT ask to be killed. However, those that enlist in the military knew the risks, and took them. They are very brave people, and I respect them dearly.

DING DING DING why can't some people understand that soldiers get killed it is a job hazard. Were the WTC deaths Soldiers? No. My good friend shipped out for Iraq Wednesday. He was out of the military but reinlisted after seeing his 1st child born. He wants her to live in a safe world. And he is willing to pay the ultimate sacrafice to do so for his child and YOUR children too.

It is not Diminishing the Deaths they are doing what they are paid to do, trained to do, and in many many cases are proud to do.

My boss has a cousin come back from Iraq to get killed in a car accident last week. People Die everywhere! A shame yes but regardless of the circumstances they will never see him again.

 

[gUEv]

I dont really like to spew liberal rhetoric or buzzwords but due to the fact that I am 19, the reinstatement of the draft has been at the back of my mind for some time now.
50 year olds are being called into combat....we are trying to pass legislation to allow women in forward fire teams...but bush says he has enough people to fight the war? D:

realistically its not like it could "just happen" overnight or something, and whoever pushed for it would become extremly unpopular from some groups.. but i really wouldnt trust a promise from bush anymore.

if i was drafted tommorow I would not go, if the current situation is as it is now. I am not a hippie, I am not a pussy... but I would not go. I would serve this country proudly and voluntarily in almost any other conflict (maybe save vietnam...although i ran my birthday and I would have actually avoided the draft, had i been alive). perhaps if there was some other development or if we really needed help (...moreso) then perhaps...but as it is...fck it