The next budget king

[error8]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but VR-zone has a sweet overclock here with this new cheap king

4,4 GHZ

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=248207

 

[v8envy]

10x multiplier, 266mhz stock FSB, low cost and 45nm? Yes please! And a variant in quad core flavor if you don't mind, Intel.

Even considering the engineering samples are hand picked and are likely to OC much better than what we retail buyers will get that's still an awesome foundation for an OC platform which doesn't require exotic ram or chipset cooling.

Now if only AMD would announce interesting products we'd be SET.

 

[Hulk]

Nice find!

3MB L2 and 4GHz at under 1.4volts.

Looks fantastic!

 

[nerp]

These puppies look nice. Might have to give my E2180 a nudge out with one of these suckas if the price is right.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: nerp
These puppies look nice. Might have to give my E2180 a nudge out with one of these suckas if the price is right.

That is what I'm hoping for : the right price.

 

[v8envy]

You and me both. With the E8 series replacing the E6 series, I'm thinking these are going to be priced like E4500s after the initial buying frenzy is over. Of course, seeing as this looks better than an E8400 -- who knows. May have to get one as soon as it's released @MSRP rather than wait 6 months.

 

[error8]

By the way, when are these suppose to be released?

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: error8
By the way, when are these suppose to be released?

yah, anyone know the street date & price?

These look as nice as E8600's

 

[harpoon84]

Not bad at all.

Hopefully the retail samples can also overclock to 4GHz... would make for a great budget overclocking chip.

 

[heyheybooboo]

The only Intel E7300 I can find relates to a chipset --->

E7500/7300 Series Chipset Information

The Egg has one of these for sale ...

Intel Xeon 3075 2.66GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W 65nm

And pricewatch lists a series of Xeon 73xx ranging in price from $989 to Get the outa here!

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
The only Intel E7300 I can find relates to a chipset --->

E7500/7300 Series Chipset Information

The Egg has one of these for sale ...

Intel Xeon 3075 2.66GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W 65nm

And pricewatch lists a series of Xeon 73xx ranging in price from $989 to Get the outa here!

It's unreleased...

It's been on the roadmaps on sites like VR-Zone and such, and is slated for a Q2 launch at $133 tray price (probably around $150 at sites like Newegg).

 

[blanketyblank]

150 is definitely a good price. The only question is what motherboards will support them.
266 fsb sounds like it would work on any core 2 board, but without a bios update I'm willing to bet it's not that easy.

 

[superstition]

The bloody Gigabyte P35-DS3L's BIOS is still in beta from December.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: blanketyblank
150 is definitely a good price. The only question is what motherboards will support them.
266 fsb sounds like it would work on any core 2 board, but without a bios update I'm willing to bet it's not that easy.

It should work on any P35 or X38 (or P45/X48) mobo. Older chipsets like the P965 would require a BIOS update to work, thankfully Asus is usually on top of their game as far as BIOS support goes, hopefully my P5B Deluxe can run this chip without issues, it seems like a good upgrade over my E4400.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: v8envy
10x multiplier, 266mhz stock FSB, low cost and 45nm? Yes please!

Originally posted by: harpoon84
It's been on the roadmaps on sites like VR-Zone and such, and is slated for a Q2 launch at $133 tray price (probably around $150 at sites like Newegg).

:thumbsup:

That sounds like the E4XXX pricing level. I totally look forward to this chip. Budget, overclock and Zap go together like a burger, fries and a drink!

 

[VirtualLarry]

A 45nm chip with a 10x multi? Cool! Count me in.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: v8envy
10x multiplier, 266mhz stock FSB, low cost and 45nm? Yes please!

Originally posted by: harpoon84
It's been on the roadmaps on sites like VR-Zone and such, and is slated for a Q2 launch at $133 tray price (probably around $150 at sites like Newegg).

:thumbsup:

That sounds like the E4XXX pricing level. I totally look forward to this chip. Budget, overclock and Zap go together like a burger, fries and a drink!

And when you mix it all up you get some serious gas!

 

[imported_Scoop]

I want a budget quad-core

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
A 45nm chip with a 10x multi? Cool! Count me in.

yah, that stays cool, has 3mb L2, oc's like a bastard, and costs <$150. Actually compared to an e8600 this is probably a much better deal when comparing general performance at 4ghz. i doubt going from 3mb to 6mb (e8xxx) will make that much of a difference in most cases.

 

[lopri]

I'm liking the x10 multiplier. I wish Intel gave us x12 multi for an affordable price.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: Scoop
I want a budget quad-core

The Quad-Core Celeron is coming out in 2009!!

 

[TheJian]

I'm still thinking an E8400/E3110 is just as good or better. If I'm thinking about coming out of the box with no extra cost I like my odds at 3.6@400FSB with retail. I don't think 4ghz on retail is possible. Consider his chip is an engineering sample and look at the heatsink used. To hit 4.5 (on water) for anandtech with the E8500 it took 1.56v. A deadly cpu voltage. I'm thinking 6months to a year depending on temps even on water. That was rock stable for them. Again an ES chip. Not retail. Also look at the FSB speeds. How many people hit 2200FSB?

It's not a bargain anymore if you require water, and an excellent OCing board. I think a LOT of boards can hit 1600fsb easily and 3.6 retail isn't a stretch for many. That's a mighty cheap combo if we're talking budget king. The very mention of the word budget means they probably don't have money for a $60 heatsink correct? Water is out for that guy. You don't even get to what I consider REAL WATER, until $250 for a koolance (or around the same for a DIY kit of quality ($215-225?) - but koolance+300w heatsink is hard to beat for easy water).

This chip looks like great odds of 3.33, but crap at 4.0ghz. Again assuming a poor man. If he has money for a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme maybe 4ghz is doable. I still think 3.6 out of the box with no other costs and not much special is playing the better odds. Also I think it will be more like $170/1000qty vs the 8400 being $183/1000qty. Sure they are through the roof right now, but I think you won't see more than $15 between them.

Don't forget about the 6MB cache either. Double does help. I'd say 3.8 to match the 3.6 E8400.

 

[Cheex]

Good points TheJian...:thumbsup:

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: v8envy
10x multiplier, 266mhz stock FSB, low cost and 45nm? Yes please!

Originally posted by: harpoon84
It's been on the roadmaps on sites like VR-Zone and such, and is slated for a Q2 launch at $133 tray price (probably around $150 at sites like Newegg).

:thumbsup:

That sounds like the E4XXX pricing level. I totally look forward to this chip. Budget, overclock and Zap go together like a burger, fries and a drink!

Right behind you....I have never been a huge fan of the E2xxx series, but this sounds better with the 3mb L2 cache, hgher starting speed and for about what they are trying to push the E4500 at....

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: TheJian
I'm still thinking an E8400/E3110 is just as good or better. If I'm thinking about coming out of the box with no extra cost I like my odds at 3.6@400FSB with retail. I don't think 4ghz on retail is possible. Consider his chip is an engineering sample and look at the heatsink used. To hit 4.5 (on water) for anandtech with the E8500 it took 1.56v. A deadly cpu voltage. I'm thinking 6months to a year depending on temps even on water. That was rock stable for them. Again an ES chip. Not retail. Also look at the FSB speeds. How many people hit 2200FSB?

It's not a bargain anymore if you require water, and an excellent OCing board. I think a LOT of boards can hit 1600fsb easily and 3.6 retail isn't a stretch for many. That's a mighty cheap combo if we're talking budget king. The very mention of the word budget means they probably don't have money for a $60 heatsink correct? Water is out for that guy. You don't even get to what I consider REAL WATER, until $250 for a koolance (or around the same for a DIY kit of quality ($215-225?) - but koolance+300w heatsink is hard to beat for easy water).

This chip looks like great odds of 3.33, but crap at 4.0ghz. Again assuming a poor man. If he has money for a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme maybe 4ghz is doable. I still think 3.6 out of the box with no other costs and not much special is playing the better odds. Also I think it will be more like $170/1000qty vs the 8400 being $183/1000qty. Sure they are through the roof right now, but I think you won't see more than $15 between them.

Don't forget about the 6MB cache either. Double does help. I'd say 3.8 to match the 3.6 E8400.

It's ironic you think the E8400 is 'better' for overclocking since it has a lower multiplier to begin with. The E8400 is a 9x333 chip, as opposed to 10x266 for the E7300. For any given clockspeed, the E8400 needs a higher FSB. To hit 4GHz, you need a 445MHz FSB on the E8400 as opposed to a 400MHz FSB on the E7300.

Most P35 boards easily exceed 500MHz FSB with a dual core CPU, so 4GHz (10 x 400) on the E7300 shouldn't be a problem provided the silicon itself is capable of such speeds.

The official 1k tray price is $133, not some $170 figure you imagined. These chips are Allendale replacements, they won't be in the same price range as the E8xxx chips.

All the 'issues' you pointed out with this chip are totally unfounded.