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mmntech

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There are actually two tablets with Super AMOLED Plus screens, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 and the Toshiba Excite 7.7

The Excite does but the Tab doesn't, not unless they've released a new one. It's still not a full sized tablet though. It's worth noting that the Excite does cost as much as a 10'' tablet.
 

aphex

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16gb iPad w/ Verizon just arrived; however, it unfortunately has a large speck of dust under the glass. Back it goes to B&H for another
 

mmntech

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I got mine today and oh dear, it appears to have a slight yellow tinge on the top of the screen. I guess this is affecting more iPad 3s than I thought. It's very slight but there's a noticeable colour shift. One side looks bright, the other duller. Maybe I'm just imagining it. I'll compare it to my iPad 1 in the daylight.

Supposedly, a burn in period clears it up. If it's still there by the weekend, I suppose I'll have to take it to the Apple Store and bitch at them.
 

mingsoup

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I get my replacement shipped from China on Friday. I'll let you know how new ipad #2 fares in regards to pink and yellow tinge on top.

In my experience, the yellow went away with a bit of use. The pink remained.
 

mmntech

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Isn't the yellow tint some adhesive and it goes away once it is completely cured?

That's the web consensus but apparently there's no glue in the screen so who knows. As long as it goes away, I'm good. That said, I am impressed with the performance. The retina display does look very good. I used the original iPad for a lot of things beyond media consumption. This one feels fast enough to get some serious use out of. It does get quite warm though. I wonder how much further they can keep pushing the performance envelope on these ARM chips before they start requiring cooling devices.
 

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Isn't the yellow tint some adhesive and it goes away once it is completely cured?

Nope. If it's a spot on the screen (visible even if the screen is off), then it's adhesive.

If it's something inherent to the screen, then you won't see much improvement there.
 

cheez

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Check this out:

One of the members has hands on experience with both Samsung Galaxy tab 7.7 and iPad 3.
Viewing videos on the hand heavily favour the SGT 7.7. Color and contrast are obviously strong points of the SAMOLED, and it still comes out on top despite what some WSJ reviewer might think. Think of the arguments used when comparing Plasma and LED/LCD TVs - they pretty much apply here too. Side by side, the iPad looks washed out and lacking in color. Blacks are obviously not black due to the nature of LCD lighting.

The pixel advantage of the iPad when viewing videos seemingly becomes irrelevant due to the screen size. And there is of course the obvious benefit of flexibility when it comes to the SGT 7.7 - you can pretty much load up any video you want and it will play with hardware acceleration. I have a much harder time getting videos to load on the iPad, and when they are compatible they typically seem to use software rendering and then the framerate just drops to buggery.
That's a brilliant post. The ability to play MPEG2-TS 1080i files with hardware acceleration is the huge deal to me. I mean, mega super duper huge! gigantic! iPad is absolutely pathetic in compatibility dept. for playback.
 
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MrX8503

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Check this out:

One of the members has hands on experience with both Samsung Galaxy tab 7.7 and iPad 3.
That's a brilliant post. The ability to play MPEG2-TS 1080i files with hardware acceleration is the huge deal to me. I mean, mega super duper huge! gigantic! iPad is absolutely pathetic in compatibility dept. for playback.

Obviously the post by whoever that is, is not a display pro. SAMOLED/Plasma is good for movies because of the high contrast and saturated colors. If you knew anything about displays, you would know this. I don't know about you, but most of my tablet use is more surfing, reading, browsing. Not movies.

Mega, super duper gigantic optimus prime XXL! lol. I see that its important for you, but maybe its not for the masses.
 
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Obviously the post by whoever that is, is not a display pro. SAMOLED/Plasma is good for movies because of the high contrast and saturated colors. If you knew anything about displays, you would know this. I don't know about you, but most of my tablet use is more surfing, reading, browsing. Not movies.

Those are one and the same no? Unless your iPad actually doubles as a surfboard...

The points you made about SAMOLED are the same as the post you quoted. It's better for movies. I definitely watch a lot of video on our iPad (big families don't really gel with one or two TVs), and while I think it's fine, I know a SAMOLED display would be better.
 

cheez

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Obviously the post by whoever that is, is not a display pro. SAMOLED/Plasma is good for movies because of the high contrast and saturated colors. If you knew anything about displays, you would know this. I don't know about you, but most of my tablet use is more surfing, reading, browsing. Not movies.

Mega, super duper gigantic optimus prime XXL! lol. I see that its important for you, but maybe its not for the masses.
Surfing and browsing is the same, as mentioned by the other person above. This isn't about who types more on the forum. As long as the point is delivered, is what matters. lol

Movies and other videos are very important. Most people do watch videos rather than only reading websites. Most importantly, this is what these pads are about. If you like reading so much, we have news paper and magazines for that. We also have books.

 

cheez

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Here is an ipad 3 user's review. This is a good one.

First post here, hi all. Let me start out by saying I am not a fanboy of any company. I choose products for what they bring me and not their brand.

I Picked up an iPad new or 3 today. I am not impressed at all. The device is substantially heavy and I felt it right away. The new weight results in the corners of the new iPad to feel sharp digging in the palm of your hand combined with the tapered edges that were introduced with the second gen. The screen tech is old tech no matter what apple spins it as. Yes there is some difference due to the higher res but it's not a WOW screen that will leave you amazed. If you've seen an oled screen the ips screen simply will NOT blow you away. End of story. Apple is late to the high def arena and chose to up the res to an "at the moment" less useful solution because very few native res apps are around and for me personally PDFs look like crappy on this screen. To achieve a better look in the hi res screen, file sizes have to be greatly increased which is going to be an issue for content providers and for users especially those who opted for 16 gb nonexpandable storage .

In time of course native res should increase as apps are the lifebood of Apple. High def videos simply do not even compare in quality to oled. Sure the higher res does result in tighter pixels and less screen door effect so to speak, but the experiene quality is much less punchy and defined. Compared to the Samsung Note for example, the iPad new's video playback leaves you feeling cheated whereas in the Note one feels as if the images are surreal almost. I suppose this is a subjective issue but personally I like the "better than life" effect one gets from oled screens. The new iPad's screen results in videos that appear washed out, less defined and not as bright.

On the plus side the new iPad does well with IOS as the software and hardware are fine tuned to each other and that results in a fluidity of use that I have found lacking in Android. The tighter IOS security and harder for the "average person's ability" to jailbreak and side load has attracted developers to the app store for financial reasons if nothing else.

As far as displays go, my personal take on this is this is it's not really about pixel count anymore and the future lies in tech that can achieve quality without having to increase app or file size which is something that the new iPad will need in order to take advantage of the new resolution.

So in closing my first impressions of the new iPad device have not been very satisfying. I see it as a feeble attempt from Apple to introduce a new device in the tablet market in order to appear/stay relevant. But due to the fact the company is not a manufacturer and manufacturers like Samsung now have their own devices, they will keep their best innovations for themselves and/or price the tech so high that Apple would not be able to hit its price point, at least for now. So Apple is making due with cheaper old gen display tech and gimmick like tactics like higher resolution. The rest of the tech is also nothing new or revolutionary as 4g LTE is found in many other devices now. Ultimately though It comes down to marketing power and liquid capital which Apple has lots of and they unleash it every round.

P.s. I'm finding the battery life to be horrible in the new iPad as compared to 1st and 2nd gen which is surprising to me as I always found the battery life to be plus on the iPad side.
The part where bolded, he brings the same thing I brought about unnecessary high res native display on the new ipad. Actually, all of his post need to be bolded as all of it is good.
 
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MrX8503

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Surfing and browsing is the same, as mentioned by the other person above. This isn't about who types more on the forum. As long as the point is delivered, is what matters. lol

Movies and other videos are very important. Most people do watch videos rather than only reading websites. Most importantly, this is what these pads are about. If you like reading so much, we have news paper and magazines for that. We also have books.


It was a mistype, what I mean is that there's a lot of reading/browsing whether its news, books, shopping, social networks, magazines, etc.

Most people watch video on tablets? Try only 13%


We all know you don't like the iPad 3. Let everyone else enjoy their iPads. For my use, the retina screen is stunning. Everything is razor sharp, its like getting a new pair of glasses.
 

cheez

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It was a mistype, what I mean is that there's a lot of reading/browsing whether its news, books, shopping, social networks, magazines, etc.

Most people watch video on tablets? Try only 13%
^ Well that's just one source from your research. It doesn't cover everyone. That was posted back in October 2011 too, it's not most up to date. Also keep in mind, more and more people are buying electronic pads as they are gaining popularity.

You are also forgetting the fact that viewing websites with white or light background will have impact also. You tilt that ipad a little bit and watch that colors shift and lose brightness. We call it "wash out". As you can see, this doesn't apply for movies only. It apples for everything. With GT7.7 (SAMOLED+) the display doesn't get washed out. It stays strong and clear breeze, similar to plasma displays.

We all know you don't like the iPad 3.
I don't like iPad 3, but I don't hate Apple. Apple has made a lot of mistakes. I want them to improve for better displays... and compatibility. But I doubt this is going to happen anytime soon.


Let everyone else enjoy their iPads.
I wasn't stopping them. If they like them, continue to like them. If they don't like what I post here, ignore me, or don't read this thread and go on with your ipad and enjoy. I wasn't forcing everyone to hate on iPad 3....

For my use, the retina screen is stunning. Everything is razor sharp, its like getting a new pair of glasses.
For reading small texts you mean? Yeah, duh, of course it will be sharp on that aspect, but that's for text only. Your eyes will get tired soon though, unless you keep your face close to the screen so you can read those fine small texts. Viewing distance is shortened with this new iPad device.

For videos, completely different story. Things start to get dull, or to some extent, blurry. 352P video will look horrible. 480P will be horrible. 576P will be horrible. 720P? I bet you $500 that iPad 2 will have sharper / crisper video than the iPad 3. For 1080p, you may get a few extra detail and probably not lose sharpness however.

1280 x 768 or 1280 x 800 native display would be the "schweet spot". But Apple decided to go too high on the res. Not good.
 
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MrX8503

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For reading small texts you mean? Yeah, duh, of course it will be sharp on that aspect, but that's for text only. Your eyes will get tired soon though, unless you keep your face close to the screen so you can read those fine small texts. Viewing distance is shortened with this new iPad device.

You must not know how a retina display works. Text on the iPad 3 is the same size as the iPad2.
 

umrigar

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I think it's time to change that old saying from

Selling Like Hotcakes

to

Selling Like iPads
 

dlock13

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I want to sell my iPad. >_< It's been sitting on my ottoman for the 1.5 weeks. It's just not worth it to me. I'd much prefer a laptop to this thing.
 

mmntech

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Ok, so here's the issue I'm having. Two iPads side by side. iPad 3 is on the top and the original iPad on the bottom. For orientation, the tops of the screens are on the right side.

Notice how the iPad 3 has a slight yellow tinged blotch just in that one corner (top screen, bottom right in the picture), that extends a bit along the top of the screen. Or am I imagining things? The whole screen looks duller there.
 

mmntech

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Just bumping this thread with a quick Q.
If I bought it online, can I exchange my defective iPad at any Apple store? Or do I have to ship it back to Apple?
 

MrX8503

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From your photos it does look like there's a slight yellow tinge. As for your second question, I believe you can trade it in the Apple store instead of shipping it back. What you do is go to the Apple Store, show your defect and Apple will do an exchange right there.

You have a 1yr warranty on the iPad, so any defects from now till a year you have the option to get it fixed/replaced.
 
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