In terms revanue the wii u already made profits, the vita dident, the x360 an ps3 dont cost as much as the wii u does, let alone they are only striving because there next gen counsle is still in the fog, when the x720 or what ever is on line-up details, games, cost, an release date is shown to be near releasing time, the x360 wont sell that much, that goes the same for the ps3 vs ps4. Yet being so far away people want whats here now, so the ps3 an x360 will still sell fairly well.
Comparing units that dont have the same cost amount is absurd, for the wii u is more expensive then what the wii was, an still in terms N vs X vs S, nintendo is still beating the last gen race. Dont even bother comparing something which isint in its catagorie, because wii is ahead of the ps3 by a mile, 20 mill---e---on thats 20 million units, do you know how much 20 million wiis would look like in a ware-house?
consoles "winning" and "losing" is stupid talk. what consoles sells the most is irrelevant to end users. if that was the case, we'd see the best games out on the wii since it sold the most consoles in the current gen. but it has by far the worst games of the 3.
it is all about the games, and the wii u has 0 games that are system sellers. there really is nothing in the near future either.
Are you serious? Current gens, lol...nintendo's one title, yes uno title el.."Pokemon" is at-least a 10 billion dollar assest, so beyound popular it branched to assesories, movies, card games, toys an hundreds of other products, name one game that banked any other (Game-ing industry) that much cash?
I'm not intrested in sonys other eletronic pockets keeping them alive, just what there "games" can amount up to emit, nothing of even combining microsofts an sonys best #1 game franchise can amount up to Nintendos heavy hitters, as you said best games, uh huh! Best games actually sell an have the data to back it up, in terms profit.
Again I'll highlight the catagorie..."Games"...if sony dident have other roads to take to make ends meet, they would have bankrupted years ago, the ps3 had barley broken off even in terms profit, an the vita has made a huge whole in there pockets. You just contradicted your self, if you were to compare the game it self, then no credit will have ever gone to sony, sony has the least first party games out of the 3, they are all 3rd party games, sony dosent own square enix an other well selled game partys, taking only a peice of the pie, while everything nintendo has brought to the table in the past has been pure profit on there own inovations, not some rip off gimmick.
don't really care how much money pokemon sold. again, i want good games not sales figures. pokemon is a crap game to me so i don't care for it at all. i also don't give a shit about what games are made by sony and what games are made by microsoft. i just care about games being good regardless of who makes them.
highlight all the sales numbers you want. titanic is the largest grossing movie of all time. does that mean it is the best movie ever? i enjoyed it but enjoy other movies a lot more than it.
Ok, you touched on a couple of things with this post and everything you wrote is BS.In terms revanue the wii u already made profits, the vita dident, the x360 an ps3 dont cost as much as the wii u does, let alone they are only striving because there next gen counsle is still in the fog, when the x720 or what ever is on line-up details, games, cost, an release date is shown to be near releasing time, the x360 wont sell that much, that goes the same for the ps3 vs ps4. Yet being so far away people want whats here now, so the ps3 an x360 will still sell fairly well.
Comparing units that dont have the same cost amount is absurd, for the wii u is more expensive then what the wii was, an still in terms N vs X vs S, nintendo is still beating the last gen race. Dont even bother comparing something which isint in its catagorie, because wii is ahead of the ps3 by a mile, 20 mill---e---on thats 20 million units, do you know how much 20 million wiis would look like in a ware-house?
Are you serious? Current gens, lol...nintendo's one title, yes uno title el.."Pokemon" is at-least a 10 billion dollar assest, so beyound popular it branched to assesories, movies, card games, toys an hundreds of other products, name one game that banked any other (Game-ing industry) that much cash?
I'm not intrested in sonys other eletronic pockets keeping them alive, just what there "games" can amount up to emit, nothing of even combining microsofts an sonys best #1 game franchise can amount up to Nintendos heavy hitters, as you said best games, uh huh! Best games actually sell an have the data to back it up, in terms profit.
Again I'll highlight the catagorie..."Games"...if sony dident have other roads to take to make ends meet, they would have bankrupted years ago, the ps3 had barley broken off even in terms profit, an the vita has made a huge whole in there pockets. You just contradicted your self, if you were to compare the game it self, then no credit will have ever gone to sony, sony has the least first party games out of the 3, they are all 3rd party games, sony dosent own square enix an other well selled game partys, taking only a peice of the pie, while everything nintendo has brought to the table in the past has been pure profit on there own inovations, not some rip off gimmick.
Ok, you touched on a couple of things with this post and everything you wrote is BS.
First, Sony has announced the PS4 and we all know the Xbox is coming by the end of this year so if that was going to affect sales in any way it would already be doing it. The WiiU is the new kid on the block and is being outsold by 7 year old consoles not to mention the Wii was wildly successful when it came out.
Second, unlike Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft don't make money of off the consoles themselves but of off the games they sell afterwards. Everyone knows that 3rd party people hated the Wii because it catered to the casuals who just wanted to play WiiSports and garbage like that. So now that the WiiU is out I doubt most of their target consumer base even knows that the Wii and WiiU are different products. You cater to the idiots and that's what happens. In terms of first party titles the Wii had some good entries but lets not kid ourselves, software sales on PS360 was much better especially for third party developers.
Pokemon is a first party title for Nintendo so I don't even know why you would bring that up. Nintendo's problem has never been first party titles, it has been getting third party developers on board with their console.
Also you bring up the BS about console profit, do you understand that Sony and Microsoft make money from the software not the hardware? Does that compute or are you just going throw around your "20 millions UNITZ" around?
Sony actually has a large portfolio of first party/second party developers:
First Party:
Asia
SCE Japan Studio Ape Escape, Siren, LocoRoco, Patapon, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, The Last Guardian, Knack
Polyphony Digital Gran Turismo series, Tourist Trophy
North America
Naughty Dog Crash Bandicoot series, Jak and Daxter series, Uncharted series, The Last of Us - Also home of the ICE Team
SCE Santa Monica Studio Kinetica, God of War series, PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
SCE San Diego Studio MLB: The Show, ModNation Racers
SCE Bend Studio Syphon Filter, Resistance: Retribution, Uncharted: Golden Abyss
SCE Foster City Studio - supported studio for SCE Worldwide Studios
Sucker Punch Productions Sly Cooper series, Infamous series
Gaikai
Sony Online Entertainment - EverQuest series, PlanetSide series, DC Universe Online
Europe
SCE London Studio SingStar, EyeToy, PlayStation Home
Guerrilla Cambridge MediEvil, Killzone: Mercenary
Evolution Studios World Rally Championship, MotorStorm series
Guerrilla Games Killzone series
Media Molecule LittleBigPlanet series
Second Party:
Asia
Clap Hanz Everybody's Golf series
Cellius Ridge Racer Vita
North America
Insomniac Games[30] Spyro The Dragon series, Ratchet & Clank series, Resistance series,
Ready at Dawn Studios God of War: Chains of Olympus, God of War: Ghost of Sparta, Daxter, God of War: Origins Collection
Idol Minds Pain, Ruin, Ratchet & Clank Collection
Sanzaru Games - Secret Agent Clank, The Sly Collection, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Zindagi Games Sports Champions, Medieval Moves: Deadmund's Quest
Minority - Papo & Yo
Giant Sparrow - The Unfinished Swan
Europe
Quantic Dream Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls
Tarsier Studios Rag Doll Kung Fu: Fists of Plastic, LittleBigPlanet PS Vita
Double Eleven LittleBigPlanet PS Vita
Novarama Invizimals, Reality Fighters
Supermassive Games Start the Party!, Doctor Who: The Eternity Clock, Until Dawn, Tumble, walking with dinosaurs
Plastic Games - Linger in Shadows, Datura
So what's this nonsense about Sony living off of third party developer support?
I dident say that they had no 1st party games which is obvious, they do noob. I was talking about best to best in terms revanue, lol...an all that list you seem to be a bit worked up on by putting thought into your large post, I can demolish your desperate attempt right here an now. The very best to best, would be Mario an Pokemon, (two games) that sold more than the 200 million mark in units sold, show me sony's heavy hitters that contend with that amount...to my knowledge only games like final fantasy an sim's broke barriers for sony, sadly for you they are not sony first partys, final fantasy has been on everything already, they are 3rd party games. All those games you just named combined, nintendo can hold there grown with just Mario an Poke-mon.
We all know Xbox an ps4 is coming out this year?
Pfwaa ha haa ha, they havent even gave any confirmations (root sources) from the horses mouth on the concept art, of how the system looks like, an you spew out trash that "we" all know, you know shit, thats what you know. Things can be delayed it has happened for every major video game counsle, so to say at the end of the year, which is insanley close to the next year, is a opinion at best. So wake up!
People hated wii an only wanted to play wii sports?
Up your knowledge on nintendo pal, they sold award winning games for the wii for its first of its kind inovations on home counsles. I dident even own that much games for the wii 25 at best compared to what I use to own on the Ps1 almost a 100, an still that was below the average of what I know the charts pumped out of good games being rated in every informer magazine I had (per month) for the wii.
So your saying what everyone wants to play is garbage? Thats a contradiction if I ever heard one. Ha haaa ha. Now your saying theres a confusion in wii an wii u, and people have a confusion of thinking its the same game counsle is one of the reasons they might not be selling well? Ha! Ps1-ps2 whats so different about that, theres only 1 change a number, wii to wii u, still one status of its name has changed, not much of a difference in terms a branding problem. You should actually read up on why they havent done so well in terms quanity being sold, they advertised didly sqwat, its all over the internet, from the Uk hadent really heard that much, united states too, some stores have them sold out while other locations dident even know of its time arival, compared to wii which was basically on every bill board everywhere, on comercials that basically played double sometimes, on any an every advertisement logo company on the planet.
Third party? F third party, thats for sony an microsoft to complain about haveing the micro-scopic better graphics complaining over an over in whos is better, when basically they are similar...there are good third party games, but if your main games arnt the stars of your system an bring in the most "Revanue" than saying sony trumps =nintendo in games becomes moot, because they are basically just the pusher, not the inovater.
An thats a pretty small list you got there in terms all time high ratings an profit that catred to there revanue. Ahhh haa haa ha.
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And this is why the WiiU will get smashed this gen. You can quote me on that.
Battlefield 4 a launch title for PS4....where do I sign up?
And this is why the WiiU will get smashed this gen. You can quote me on that.
Until they have the new 3D Mario, smash bros, and Zelda then it will swing around.
Sony and Microsoft will both have a problem at first with higher priced hardware, games not being available in droves yet, and their older console still seeing new releases. People probably won't upgrade when all the major announced releases will also be on the old system. Grand theft auto v, destiny, even diablo 3 will be on ps3 so I am sure some people won't jump on to ps4 immediately. That will be a problem for a bit.
The PS4 and next Xbox are coming out this year, if you don't want to believe it, fine, but they are regardless of what you want to believe. Also, the Wii U is the first Nintendo console they are selling at a lose.
On your PC of course...
if its a launch title for the PS4 i will wait in line for one
PS4 over PC because i don't know a single person who has a gaming PC in real life, and everyone i know will end up with a PS4 and or a new xbox
Agreed.
Nintendo games is what sells for nintendo, if third party games was such a big intrest, they would have rivaled nintendos best games already in sales. I personally think more third party games for nintendo is a mistake. They dont need to rely on other's enginuity, it becomes a problem when they dont deliver. While nintendo is consistant, an has always been more than the standard.
Owning all three, I really dont care who gets the top sales, I merely point out there strong points an there weak points. Sony is good at what sony does, but to be specific they do not inovate jack, they merely jump on band wagons an ride others succsess, Nintendo has always broken barriers an set the standard...people can twist around facts all they like, but Nintendo is the heart of gaming in terms the counsles, hand-helds, games an inovations. There revanue is based purely on the branching out of there "Games" not the other way around, an I stand with what I said, Sony is good in investing in things, but if they were purely just a gaming manufactureing company, they would have tanked like the dream cast from losing money instead of profiting.
Sony hasent spinned any profits since the Ps2, which mp3's, to smart phones proved that the ps2 was a huge gimmick, 80% of the people I knew at the time had the ps2 as a set up for there sound system an transitioned to only a few games. Ps1 had a better line up than ps2 in terms games.
Reguardless I hope the Ps4 comes out this year, an is mind blowing but to make accusations that they will smoke the competition is ridiculous, first see if they can turn a profit first, (that would be mind blowing) let alone beating nintendo or micro-soft, take for example like what KaOtik just said...
Its not what I belive, its whats logical, you just said the next xbox, yet there isint even a name for the next xbox yet...thats called making an opinion, a guess, a assumption, not a fact. Wii u trumped the wii in revanue, something sony hasent done since the playstation 2, so that isint a loss, thats a breaking even, an the standards havent even arrived yet, let alone the money makers for nintendo.
PS2 was a gimmick? I'm sorry, but the only console makers whose consoles scream gimmick in Nintendo.