It was confusing because you quoted something that specifically said KH3. Thanks for the clarification.
I'm referring to current gen as it has been, not up and coming. I'm very much excited for Kingdom Hearts 3.
Even though sadly Square doesn't have a great track record lately.
CD Project Red is trying to do just that. A western open world RPG with story and character depth. Very ambitious, but I am in.No, it's not. It's not an RPG in that sense. It has bare minimum story. It's an open sandbox game with D&D style elements. It is in no way the type of RPG we are referring to here which is why I called it out because I knew people would be "but Skyrim is beautiful!" It is, but it also isn't an (eastern) RPG. The writing style for the game is completely different.
I'm not saying you couldn't make a game like Skyrim into a full fledged story driven RPG. I'm saying they don't want to spend the money/time to do it because the payback just isn't large enough in their eyes.
The game Exdeath is drooling on about is the right style, but the graphics are cartoony rather than realistic with 1000's of shaders/pixels/polys which is really not the same. That same game could have been released on the Wii (which is my point). It wasn't a graphically pushing game.
It's a trade off of what they want to spend their money on. Storyline and huge worlds or graphics. Some day maybe we can have both.
If you are bored, read this article. It talks about some key points about the state of gaming and RPGs. http://www.destructoid.com/xenoblade-chronicles-226518.phtml
I disagree with you on the current gen too, but I like the Jap RPG's a lot.
The height of the RPG world came with the PS1 for me. Alundra, Final Fantasy games, Xenogears, all of those great games
So in other words, you don't feel Skyrim is an RPG and exclude it out to try and make your point? Perhaps you should just describe the type of game you're talking about.
You keep speaking on behalf of other people, but I fall under other people, and don't agree with you. So let's focus on what YOU'RE looking for, not what "they" are looking for.
List an epic game that represents what you're describing.
CD Project Red is trying to do just that. A western open world RPG with story and character depth. Very ambitious, but I am in.
The traditional JRPGs are dying off. Square has been bad since they merged with Enix, if not slipping drastically before that. Myst Walker does nothing but write games, and then have trouble finding a studio to make it. JRPGs are on the way out. Hopefully, some indie developers take up the reigns, but really, I don't see it being possible for a couple guys to make a FFVI or a Chrono Trigger.
It was confusing because you quoted something that specifically said KH3. Thanks for the clarification.
My prediction.
Microsoft will remove the insane always on DRM requirement and possibly lessen the used game restrictions AND drop the price by $50 before launch. They are not this stupid and have a ton of time before the holidays to do all of this.
The good large RPG's were on Wii. They can't make epic RPG's anymore when trying to worry about graphics whores. Sorry, it's just true. Even the CEO's/designers of games have said that. That's why most of the decent RPG's come out on the handhelds.
It costs way too much money and time to try to create the kind of worlds people want for the epic RPG's they also want. We're not talking Skyrim here, it's a completely different ball game. The RPG's put out on the Wii would not have happened on the 360/PS3 (and didn't) simply due to the graphics necessity.
Actually you are just being difficult. We're talking about JRPG's. Skyrim is not that, and if you think that is an RPG, well sorry. It's not. I'm not knocking it at all. I love the game, but it is not the type of game we are referring to in this thread. (and I'm not talking about just me).
Apparently PS4 will have some kind of DRM.. just read that they said its up to the publishers for the game restrictions
Apparently PS4 will have some kind of DRM.. just read that they said its up to the publishers for the game restrictions
Apparently PS4 will have some kind of DRM.. just read that they said its up to the publishers for the game restrictions
Just like it currently is on the PS3/360
I think MS just created the system for publishers to use, I don't think they force the use of it. So, publishers can choose to avoid it, and everything is the same; minus the Kinect 2 and phone home mechanisms (which I don't see going away). Will publishers avoid it? I hardly see EA skipping out on the chance to squash used games and I think they will try and implement something for the PS4, regardless of Sony supporting it or not.
I think MS went out on a limb and figured EA's online pass was here to stay. So, they created a solution that helps gamers avoid having to do things other than just pop in a game and play while accommodating EA's DRM requirements. Now, with Sony saying "nope, we don't support that" and EA saying "well, maybe online pass was a bad idea" MS is kind of left holding this "feature" trying to make the best of it.
Actually you are just being difficult. We're talking about JRPG's. Skyrim is not that, and if you think that is an RPG, well sorry. It's not. I'm not knocking it at all. I love the game, but it is not the type of game we are referring to in this thread. (and I'm not talking about just me).
this is just flat out false. no matter what publishers do, you can't resell your games or rent them from redbox.
this is just flat out false. no matter what publishers do, you can't resell your games or rent them from redbox.
FFX was amazing. I used to play violin and even learned to play a lot of the songs. Definitely a WORK of art of a game. I don't think Any of the recent final fantasy games have did as well as FFX. That's why they're remaking it. I wish they'd remake FF7 though.
Actually you are just being difficult. We're talking about JRPG's. Skyrim is not that, and if you think that is an RPG, well sorry. It's not. I'm not knocking it at all. I love the game, but it is not the type of game we are referring to in this thread. (and I'm not talking about just me).
Agreed. I need a FF10 type game. If FF15 doesn't deliver that's it. The New Final Fantasy games since FF10 have done nothing for me character wise. I CARED about the FF10 story. I loved it. I put in I think 200+ hours into the game easily. I haven't beat a single Final Fantasy game since 10. I don't care halfway through. The characters bore me, the graphics were stupid, the story line and cinematics did nothing for me. FF10 was where it ended for me. And why they won't remake FF7 when EVERY fan has asked for it just makes zero sense.
Square Enix is purposely trolling us and I dislike it.
Can you find a quote for this? I have read multiple locations that it's up to publishers. This is MS's biggest problem right now is that during their press conferences they sidestep the issue. I don't think they really have a COMPLETE set in stone plan at the moment....
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