The Official Xbox One Thread

[purbeast0]

I think I am the only person who thinks this is bad news. =(

No more library sharing via the Xbox Live and no more discless installs. Hooray for progress...

just download it from the marketplace and you can have discless installs.

 

[EightySix Four]

Whelp, there goes all the fun licensing scenarios I was excited about. Sharing was going to be the shit.

 

[badb0y]

i personally would much rather have that so i can continue to redbox games and sell em on craigslist/fs if i so choose to.

I'm with you there, I was just pointing that out as that's one of the "features" that they seemed to have removed with this update.

 

[smackababy]

You can still buy the game from Live if you don't want to mess with discs.

Yeah, but I (most likely) lose the option to install while I play. I now have to wait for the game to be downloaded. An inconvenience I was looking forward to not having, in turn for online requirements and no resale.

 

[cmdrdredd]

i personally would much rather have that so i can continue to redbox games and sell em on craigslist/fs if i so choose to.

This is true...rentals are a big market for many people. Gamefly and all

 

[American Gunner]

While it's sad to see some of the features go, this will practically shut up all the haters that talked about MS being arrogant and not caring about fans. This was a very quick response to calm down a lot of people.

 

[blurredvision]

The removal of the family sharing does suck. I understand why they won't do it without the 24-hour check. I know many hated the DRM method, but it really does feel like a step back at this point. Many advantages with sticking with the tried-and-true method, though.

 

[badb0y]

While it's sad to see some of the features go, this will practically shut up all the haters that talked about MS being arrogant and not caring about fans. This was a very quick response to calm down a lot of people.

To be fair though, the public outcry was there from the moment these rumors started coming out from like last year. This is simply a response to Sony curb-stomping them in the pre-orders and all the negative press they have been getting.

 

[smackababy]

While it's sad to see some of the features go, this will practically shut up all the haters that talked about MS being arrogant and not caring about fans. This was a very quick response to calm down a lot of people.

No, no it won't.

 

[EightySix Four]

The removal of the family sharing does suck. I understand why they won't do it without the 24-hour check. I know many hated the DRM method, but it really does feel like a step back at this point. Many advantages with sticking with the tried-and-true method, though.

Yeah, I know I'm in the minority, but I'm actually considering cancelling my preorder I was looking forward to the distribution model (in my opinion) noticeable improving. I'm still excited about the media features and the fast switching but I may way to see how it plays out for 6 months or so first. I wonder if we'll still be able to roam with digital downloads.

 

[ImpulsE69]

If anything, this has to prove that MS actually listens to their fans and wants to make them happy. It will suck to see the full installs go away, because I liked the idea of not needing the disc around to jump to a new game if my friends got online.

I really disagree with this. They did not listen to their customers. Just 2 days ago they came out with a statement saying "There was no way they were changing their strategy". Now they do a 180? They were scared about taking a huge hit due to all the backlash. I'm sure it came down the pre-order numbers. They tried to ride it out thinking it would have minimal impact. What is funny is the 2-3 people in here that have been defending it this whole time said the rest of the world was wrong.

It is good they have finally come around, however, it's not over yet. We'll see what happens.

Changing a few disks around is a small price to pay for freedom.

My tin foil hat view of what happened:

NSA: You're preorder numbers are pretty low.
MS: Yea...this whole "friends" on the internet spreads news like wild fire. We can't hide things like we used to.
NSA: We need population saturation to be effective
MS: Yea...we did what we could. We packaged the Kinect with it, required internet
NSA: Fix it. We need to be in peoples homes or we pull our funding
MS: Yes Sir. I suppose we can take away the DRM portion, but that would mean no 24/7 internet access
NSA: Will it help sell the systems?
MS: Of course.
NSA: Then do it..no ones going to use it without the internet, losers.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Yeah, but I (most likely) lose the option to install while I play. I now have to wait for the game to be downloaded. An inconvenience I was looking forward to not having, in turn for online requirements and no resale.

The fact that THIS is what you consider an inconvenience speaks volumes

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yeah, I know I'm in the minority, but I'm actually considering cancelling my preorder I was looking forward to the distribution model (in my opinion) noticeable improving. I'm still excited about the media features and the fast switching but I may way to see how it plays out for 6 months or so first. I wonder if we'll still be able to roam with digital downloads.

They said in the announcement that digital downloads play offline as well. As they do on 360/PS3 and PS4

 

[EightySix Four]

They said in the announcement that digital downloads play offline as well.

Then roaming is gone. This blows.

 

[AMDZen]

BREAKING NEWS:

Microsoft to Pull Complete Reversal on Xbox One DRM Policies

Seriously. Link won't load but here is the pastebin

http://pastebin.com/17PG0dEf

official link

http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

 

[cmdrdredd]

Then roaming is gone. This blows.

What do you mean roaming?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Yeah, but I (most likely) lose the option to install while I play. I now have to wait for the game to be downloaded. An inconvenience I was looking forward to not having, in turn for online requirements and no resale.

Why does "no resale" matter to you? The previous system MS proposed also had "no resale." The fact that they've reintroduced resale for one group of consumers and you're bummed that it might not include you... that's just odd. Everything else; downloading games, running discless, that all seems like it should be relatively hassle-free and convenient for you.

 

[mmntech]

Yeah, and I'm glad consumers actually won this time.

This still doesn't change my mind. I'm still going with a PS4 at launch. It just opens up the possibility of owning an Xbox in the future.

That and Sony's announcement put them between a rock and a hard place. The Wii U already had no restrictions, and then Sony announced the PS4 wouldn't either. They would have been the only console this generation with these restrictions. It's extremely difficult to argue that it benefits the consumers. So gamers won out. The fact that PS4 preorders seem to be outselling Xbox One by a decent margin helped nudge them too.

It's a victory for all gamers but I can't help but feel we're delaying the inevitable.

 

[Tweak155]

To be fair though, the public outcry was there from the moment these rumors started coming out from like last year. This is simply a response to Sony curb-stomping them in the pre-orders and all the negative press they have been getting.

It changed me from PS4 only to XB1 and maybe PS4. I didn't use the PS3 a whole lot this gen, but was not about to be dick slapped in the face by MS.

 

[Tweak155]

BREAKING NEWS:

Microsoft to Pull Complete Reversal on Xbox One DRM Policies

Seriously. Link won't load but here is the pastebin

http://pastebin.com/17PG0dEf

official link

http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

You're way behind buddy.

 

[cmdrdredd]

That and Sony's announcement put them between a rock and a hard place. The Wii U already had no restrictions, and then Sony announced the PS4 wouldn't either. They would have been the only console this generation with these restrictions. It's extremely difficult to argue that it benefits the consumers. So gamers won out. The fact that PS4 preorders seem to be outselling Xbox One by a decent margin helped nudge them too.

It's a victory for all gamers but I can't help but feel we're delaying the inevitable.

All that's left for them is to open up Xbox Live for the Indie devs to self publish and quit charging $10k to release updates to their games on XBL. Then it will be a 100% even marketplace and the leader will be decided on exclusive content and value added features.

 

[gothamhunter]

I still don't think the change came because they care for their customers, it's because they saw the massive crater where their profits would be.

If anything, this shows that voting with your wallet can actually work. Hopefully it's not too late for them.

 

[EightySix Four]

What do you mean roaming?

Roaming. Microsoft stated that with the (now dead model) if I went to someone's house with an X1, I could login with my gamertag and have fully access to all of my games immediately to play there.

 

[AMDZen]

Doesn't change anything for me though. I don't want a kinect, period. If they offer me the console sans kinect, at the price point of the PS4, I buy it. Plain and simple

As of now, I still am going PS4 only

 

[Dominato3r]

MS press release:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update