The Official Xbox One Thread

[purbeast0]

That is just so stupid though. When CoD4 came out, the leveling system was revolutionary. Normally that mechanic was only present in RPGs. It was fun leveling up your guns to unlock new attachments, leveling up your character to get access to new weapons and equipment, etc. But it completely defeats the purpose if there is now a system that will grind for you while you are gone. Why even bother playing the game at that point? Isn't gaming supposed to be about playing a game?

i agree with you that cod is a terrible example of that, but i kind of see his point. one mobile game that does this is nemo's reef. when you plant different corals and harvest them and stuff, it can take hours to harvest them. some things take 72 hours. but you don't have to have the game open for 72 hours straight. while you are not playing and your phone is off of the game, it's still harvesting it. so if you harvest something that takes 72 hours to harvest, then close the game and open it a week later, that item has been harvested.

so in that sense i could see something like that being kind of neat.

 

[cmdrdredd]

as of now, ki isn't looking like a fluke at all.

http://www.doublehelixgames.com/killer-instinct-earns-multiple-best-of-e3-nominations/

So since journalists say it was the best fighting game shown...what competition did it have for that award? I kind of find it awkward that destructoid called it "best Xbox one game". I'm sure there were games out there that were more impressive.

 

[BoberFett]

i agree with you that cod is a terrible example of that, but i kind of see his point. one mobile game that does this is nemo's reef. when you plant different corals and harvest them and stuff, it can take hours to harvest them. some things take 72 hours. but you don't have to have the game open for 72 hours straight. while you are not playing and your phone is off of the game, it's still harvesting it. so if you harvest something that takes 72 hours to harvest, then close the game and open it a week later, that item has been harvested.

so in that sense i could see something like that being kind of neat.

That doesn't require the cloud. It requires math.

 

[purbeast0]

That doesn't require the cloud. It requires math.

not the way it's implemented in the nemo game. stuff is actually going on while you are away on the server.

 

[purbeast0]

So since journalists say it was the best fighting game shown...what competition did it have for that award? I kind of find it awkward that destructoid called it "best Xbox one game". I'm sure there were games out there that were more impressive.

ill take the opinion of pro gaming journalists, professional gamers who are well known in the fgc, and other people who are well known in the fgc, who were actually at e3 playing this game and have grown up with fighting games and had in depth experience with the engine, over someone on an internet forum who is clearly anti-everything ms.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Or the other games weren't far enough along to say, or are just that bad. I also find it hard to believe that is the best they have to offer, and if it is, well..yea....

 

[purbeast0]

Or the other games weren't far enough along to say, or are just that bad. I also find it hard to believe that is the best they have to offer, and if it is, well..yea....

i'm not talking about the 'best of e3' comments necessarily, just the positive feedback of the game.

but what do you expect them to do, judge things based on what the games are supposed to be in a year when they come out? of course they are judging on what is currently there and playable.

 

[QuikWgn]

That is just so stupid though. When CoD4 came out, the leveling system was revolutionary. Normally that mechanic was only present in RPGs. It was fun leveling up your guns to unlock new attachments, leveling up your character to get access to new weapons and equipment, etc. But it completely defeats the purpose if there is now a system that will grind for you while you are gone. Why even bother playing the game at that point? Isn't gaming supposed to be about playing a game?

I was just throwing COD out there as an extremely popular but ultra-competitive game (which I don't play). What I was describing appeals I think to those people who are now considered to be "post-hardcore" (people who grew up on Quake an UT but now have jobs and family and no longer have 10 hours a day to game) as well as "casual gamers". It's hard for players even in MMO's who aren't early adopters to get into games late where they are just cannon fodder for the 1337 level 1000 players. I have a job working 4x10's and family and even though for instance I have been playing Defiance since launch at least an hour or two a night am still only level 1300 and I routinely run into players that are level 4000+. This makes the MP a lot less fun getting your a55 handed to you at every turn. I think that the days of 'grind or die' are coming to an end. Look at how any people back in the day were paying overseas sweatshops to level their WOW characters just to stay competitive and how many players WOW has lost just this year even though they continue to offer huge game expansions(I concede WOW is starting to look pretty dated these days). I'm not saying its good or right if you read my original post. I just think thats where they were going with it.

 

[ImpulsE69]

That type of leveling isn't going away any time soon, it's the only way they can artificially inflate the gameplay time. It is the #1 worst thing to happen to online shooters and should never have been implemented in online play. It was when that started making it's way into every game I quit playing them.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[smackababy]

Did they reverse the always on kinect thing?

The Kinect was never always on unless you wanted it to be. There is no reverse needed. You have the option to turn off every "feature" of the Kinect, including being able to turn entire system off 100%. There are restrictions in certain countries that this is a requirement.

EDIT: the console still requires the Kinect to be plugged in to post, however. If that is what you meant, then no, they did not reverse.

 

[Tweak155]

The Kinect was never always on unless you wanted it to be. There is no reverse needed. You have the option to turn off every "feature" of the Kinect, including being able to turn entire system off 100%. There are restrictions in certain countries that this is a requirement.

Like when the system is located in the bedroom. Oh, no reason!

 

[American Gunner]

Like when the system is located in the bedroom. Oh, no reason!

Well, seeing how the xbox doesn't need a constant connection to the internet and has privacy settings, you shouldn't worry about stuff like that. Then again, that would take common sense, and that is sorely lacking in this thread.

 

[Tweak155]

Well, seeing how the xbox doesn't need a constant connection to the internet and has privacy settings, you shouldn't worry about stuff like that. Then again, that would take common sense, and that is sorely lacking in this thread.

Yeah clearly... if you coudln't tell that was sarcasm you nailed the problem right on the head.

 

[purbeast0]

Well, seeing how the xbox doesn't need a constant connection to the internet and has privacy settings, you shouldn't worry about stuff like that. Then again, that would take common sense, and that is sorely lacking in this thread.

i'm actually shocked by all of the conspiracy theories still going on. i was in an email chain with my old coworkers and like 2 out of 4 are seriously 100% positive that the nsa is going to be watching the kinects on x1. even though you can have it turned off, not connected to online. i thought it was only stupid people on the internet, but it's spilling over to real life! maybe that is why they are still at that awful place working!

 

[Nintendesert]

Yeah clearly... if you coudln't tell that was sarcasm you nailed the problem right on the head.

He's just butt hurt the DRM got taken away. :\

 

[KaOTiK]

i'm actually shocked by all of the conspiracy theories still going on. i was in an email chain with my old coworkers and like 2 out of 4 are seriously 100% positive that the nsa is going to be watching the kinects on x1. even though you can have it turned off, not connected to online. i thought it was only stupid people on the internet, but it's spilling over to real life! maybe that is why they are still at that awful place working!

Hard to pick on people that believe it when the conspiracy theories ended up being true with this whole NSA/Prism deal. And anyone that thinks that just because you select a setting for something to be off that it can't be turned back on with you knowing is just lying to themselves. I'm not saying it will happen, but really with what we know, I would be more surprised if it didn't happen and thinking those people are being a bit extreme is naive.

 

[ImpulsE69]

i'm actually shocked by all of the conspiracy theories still going on. i was in an email chain with my old coworkers and like 2 out of 4 are seriously 100% positive that the nsa is going to be watching the kinects on x1. even though you can have it turned off, not connected to online. i thought it was only stupid people on the internet, but it's spilling over to real life! maybe that is why they are still at that awful place working!

Granted, it's funny now, I will laugh in 15 years after the next iteration of Xbox comes out and all these leaks start coming out that MS was actually doing just that. Or the first case of the feds busting someone using the Kinect footage as evidence.

Fact is, they KNOW most people will have this connected to the internet. Maybe not 24/7, but at some point. All they need is an IP address and some code and viola, spycam is not that difficult to imagine. Unlikely? Maybe. Possible? Extremely.

 

[American Gunner]

He's just butt hurt the DRM got taken away. :\

Nah, I could care less. I have never "picked sides" in the upcoming console wars because I will be getting both. And Impulse, sorry for not picking up on it, it just has been driven into the ground by now. People seriously seem to not get that there are easy steps to avoid being "spied on" by kinect. My bad man.

 

[Tweak155]

Nah, I could care less. I have never "picked sides" in the upcoming console wars because I will be getting both. And Impulse, sorry for not picking up on it, it just has been driven into the ground by now. People seriously seem to not get that there are easy steps to avoid being "spied on" by kinect. My bad man.

While I'm not Impulse, no problem

I have the same view. I have always stated I plan on waiting to see how things pan out... It was a no go for XB1 with the DRM but now I will consider it (and likely buy it).

The way things currently sits I'll own both at some point. But... always time to change. I'm thinking at least 3mo after release is when I might buy.

 

[ImpulsE69]

There needs to be a game that uses both the Kinect 2 and Eyetoy and the 2 systems battle it out with them. NO idea what the game would actually be or how it would work, but the main thing being they interact with each other using their cameras.

 

[cmdrdredd]

ill take the opinion of pro gaming journalists, professional gamers who are well known in the fgc, and other people who are well known in the fgc, who were actually at e3 playing this game and have grown up with fighting games and had in depth experience with the engine, over someone on an internet forum who is clearly anti-everything ms.

So you can't answer the question. Typical BS as always from you

 

[American Gunner]

While I'm not Impulse, no problem

I have the same view. I have always stated I plan on waiting to see how things pan out... It was a no go for XB1 with the DRM but now I will consider it (and likely buy it).

The way things currently sits I'll own both at some point. But... always time to change. I'm thinking at least 3mo after release is when I might buy.

Damn, my bad tweak, you are the one I meant to apologize to.

 

[badb0y]

Why does Kinect have to be plugged in if you never plan on using it? I mean I understand them bundling it with every console but why require it to be connected?

 

[purbeast0]

So you can't answer the question. Typical BS as always from you

what question? about other fighters there? you seem to be the one concerned about the other fighters so you can go get the gamelist from e3 if you care that much. i was pointing out that link just because it was more positive feedback for the game while there really has been absolutely no negative feedback. that is a good sign.

aahhh it's hilarious how you hate to see people getting excited about the xbox1.