The Official Xbox One Thread

[BoberFett]

a lot of people making a lot of assumptions about a lot of games and infrastructure that isn't even out yet...

Because some of us are familiar with how business works.

 

[BoberFett]

You're clever, I've not seen this post 5 times in here already.

I'd stop saying it if people would stop spouting the same mindless crap.

 

[Aikouka]

Don't most cloud-based services (like EC2) work by people/companies renting a certain amount of processing power and storage? In other words, aren't they more easy to adapt to changes in purpose? So, as long as the server-side code is handled well, a relatively low-population multi-player game shouldn't cause a problem for the publisher/developer to keep it alive since it will use very little of their rented resource pool.

 

[blurredvision]

We haven't seen much of the UI but the TV/NFL experience was demoed here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N57j0bwmP5s

I hate when the camera holder spends more time watching the people talking than the actual thing they are demonstrating.

 

[smackababy]

Don't most cloud-based services (like EC2) work by people/companies renting a certain amount of processing power and storage? In other words, aren't they more easy to adapt to changes in purpose? So, as long as the server-side code is handled well, a relatively low-population multi-player game shouldn't cause a problem for the publisher/developer to keep it alive since it will use very little of their rented resource pool.

From what Respawn is saying, they are renting out servers for pretty low cost. And, if it works similar to how their Azure works (which is should, because it is the same thing), you can scale it extremely easily. So, yes, eventually these servers will get shut down, but as long as they are in use, a small number amount of resources can be cheaply used to keep old games alive, if the companies so choose.

It is not even MS's decision, it is developers / publishers that are renting them.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Seems as though MS assuaged enough of the concerns of its customer base. Xbox One overtakes PS4 as top seller on Amazon Xbox One overtakes PS4 as top seller on Amazon

 

[Anubis]

ill say it again there are 5 PS4 SKUs and 1 xbox SKU

 

[sze5003]

Ps4 units were split up because of the demand. From the best sellers of 2013 link ps4 is ranked #4 and Xbox #6?

Besides pre orders in amazon are free I could pre order an Xbox 1 and ps4 and choose either at launch.

We will need to wait until units are out to validate actual committed sales.

 

[smackababy]

Ps4 units were split up because of the demand. From the best sellers of 2013 link ps4 is ranked #4 and Xbox #6?

Besides pre orders in amazon are free I could pre order an Xbox 1 and ps4 and choose either at launch.

We will need to wait until units are out to validate actual committed sales.

Because, here in this thread, we have already demonstrated our inability to be reasonable.

 

[purbeast0]

either way, it seems great that it is still easy peazy to find preorders for both ps4 and xbox1. hopefully that means there won't be massive shortages of them like there has been in the past.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

ill say it again there are 5 PS4 SKUs and 1 xbox SKU

Why do you feel compelled to reiterate that point? So that no one makes the mistake of thinking Sony is not winning the preorder wars? Sony wants you to go hump someone else's leg for a while. :whiste:

 

[smackababy]

either way, it seems great that it is still easy peazy to find preorders for both ps4 and xbox1. hopefully that means there won't be massive shortages of them like there has been in the past.

I think all the launch consoles have been spoken for already in preorders. I think there is going to be a shortage on both; and some guy will post a video "I have 4 Playstation 4s; you have zero, and I have 4." again.

 

[sze5003]

Why do you feel compelled to reiterate that point? So that no one makes the mistake of thinking Sony is not winning the preorder wars? Sony wants you to go hump someone else's leg for a while. :whiste:

Saying something is a top seller when there is only one type or variety to order vs 4 different types or varieties for the other system isn't really factual. My whole deal with it is they are pre orders. Anyone could cancel when they want. Pre orders don't really represent actual sales.

 

[purbeast0]

I think all the launch consoles have been spoken for already in preorders. I think there is going to be a shortage on both; and some guy will post a video "I have 4 Playstation 4s; you have zero, and I have 4." again.

i don't know i was just on gamestop and they still have day 1 launch editions of 360 and ps4 still. same with amazon.

 

[Anubis]

Why do you feel compelled to reiterate that point? So that no one makes the mistake of thinking Sony is not winning the preorder wars? Sony wants you to go hump someone else's leg for a while. :whiste:

to simply prove the point that posting that stupid amazon link over and over is fing pointless

 

[Tweak155]

From what Respawn is saying, they are renting out servers for pretty low cost. And, if it works similar to how their Azure works (which is should, because it is the same thing), you can scale it extremely easily. So, yes, eventually these servers will get shut down, but as long as they are in use, a small number amount of resources can be cheaply used to keep old games alive, if the companies so choose.

It is not even MS's decision, it is developers / publishers that are renting them.

Then quit touting it as some awesome advantage when that same advantage can have the plug pulled on it at any time if a publisher can't keep up with it. If they said "as long as publishers keep paying the bill, they can use this feature" instead.

Ps4 units were split up because of the demand. From the best sellers of 2013 link ps4 is ranked #4 and Xbox #6?

Besides pre orders in amazon are free I could pre order an Xbox 1 and ps4 and choose either at launch.

We will need to wait until units are out to validate actual committed sales.

I think the real measure will be how many of each system are left on ebay a month after release

 

[sze5003]

People are going to be selling them on eBay or Craig's list to try and make double the money. But this time around it's nothing too new. Only those that need one now will buy into paying more...example parents that promised the kids a console. I will also see what they go for on craigslist in my area. If I can sell it for more then why not.

 

[purbeast0]

People are going to be selling them on eBay or Craig's list to try and make double the money. But this time around it's nothing too new. Only those that need one now will buy into paying more...example parents that promised the kids a console. I will also see what they go for on craigslist in my area. If I can sell it for more then why not.

yeah i will probably end up purchasing my ps4 preorder and seeing how they are selling for, and if i can make some $$ off of it i'll sell it, otherwise probably return it back to amazon.

 

[sze5003]

Just don't bother with eBay. Too many scammers and sometimes shill bidding. Not to mention the fees that will come out. Not like CL is any better, people are only going to offer lowest they possibly can.

 

[smackababy]

ebay is just filled with fees. Really sucks because that is the best place to sell shoes. Just have to be extremely careful about shipping only to a confirmed address. Otherwise, they just say "oh, never received it" and ebay pretty much automatically sides with the buyer. I've had friends sell things, have the person send an ebay message "send it to <this address please>" and then claim they didn't get it because it wasn't an address with the paypal account. The best part was ebay told my friend if they message was sent on ebay (which it was), he should be okay. But, he still lost and they took $700 from his paypal and he never got his MBA back.

At least with CL you can meet them at a Starbucks and trade the item. The only problem, at least in my area, is how stupid some of the people who reply are. I've listed items, said "NO TRADES" and "TEXTS ONLY" and still get phone calls from people trying to trade me garbage...

 

[smackababy]

Then quit touting it as some awesome advantage when that same advantage can have the plug pulled on it at any time if a publisher can't keep up with it. If they said "as long as publishers keep paying the bill, they can use this feature" instead.

It is an advantage. PC gaming has enjoyed dedicated servers for a long time. And yes, it can have the plug pulled, same as every other game with servers in the history of servers and the internet. The difference is most servers are rented from certain companies and are a bit costly. MS is using a scalable system and it is apparently fairly low cost. Running a single CPU with small amount of RAM to accommodate the 5 people still playing Madden 14 when Madden 24 is out, shouldn't be so cost prohibitive. Does that mean EA will keep the server running forever? Of course not. Eventually, cost prohibitive or not, they will shut it down.

 

[purbeast0]

i find it funny on slickdeals that the xbox1 preorder thread has 5 thumbsdown, and the ps4 thread over there has 5 thumbsup. and both of them aren't slickdeals at all, they are simply the normal price.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6082688-Xbox-One-Preorder-on-Amazon-499-New-updates-on-DRM-and-24hr-check-in

http://slickdeals.net/f/6083832-Sony-PlayStation-4-500GB-Console-Pre-Order-400-Free-Shipping

the ps4 one even made front page lol. just goes to show you how obsessed the anti-ms/pro-sony people are with spreading their message.

bit off topic but since we were talking about preorders, and i was just on slickdeals, i mentioned it

 

[sze5003]

ebay is just filled with fees. Really sucks because that is the best place to sell shoes. Just have to be extremely careful about shipping only to a confirmed address. Otherwise, they just say "oh, never received it" and ebay pretty much automatically sides with the buyer. I've had friends sell things, have the person send an ebay message "send it to <this address please>" and then claim they didn't get it because it wasn't an address with the paypal account. The best part was ebay told my friend if they message was sent on ebay (which it was), he should be okay. But, he still lost and they took $700 from his paypal and he never got his MBA back.

At least with CL you can meet them at a Starbucks and trade the item. The only problem, at least in my area, is how stupid some of the people who reply are. I've listed items, said "NO TRADES" and "TEXTS ONLY" and still get phone calls from people trying to trade me garbage...

CL in my area blows. People are poor here. Or I get emails from scammers 90% of the time. I'll put a listing there for my ps4 if it doesn't have the games I want available at launch. For what it may sell if it does well I'll pick up an extra controller when I rebuy a system.

 

[smackababy]

i find it funny on slickdeals that the xbox1 preorder thread has 5 thumbsdown, and the ps4 thread over there has 5 thumbsup. and both of them aren't slickdeals at all, they are simply the normal price.

http://slickdeals.net/f/6082688-Xbox-One-Preorder-on-Amazon-499-New-updates-on-DRM-and-24hr-check-in

http://slickdeals.net/f/6083832-Sony-PlayStation-4-500GB-Console-Pre-Order-400-Free-Shipping

the ps4 one even made front page lol. just goes to show you how obsessed the anti-ms/pro-sony people are with spreading their message.

bit off topic but since we were talking about preorders, and i was just on slickdeals, i mentioned it

Anyone interested in the Xbox One is obviously a heathen who hasn't accepted Sony as Lord and Savior into their heart.

It is rather humorous the length at which people associate themselves with a product.

 

[dagamer34]

Anyone interested in the Xbox One is obviously a heathen who hasn't accepted Sony as Lord and Savior into their heart.

It is rather humorous the length at which people associate themselves with a product.

It's even sadder people seem to think that both companies won't do everything in their power to extract money from your wallet. The "Sony is my friend" syndrome going around desperately needs to be shattered.