I'm truly surprised that some of you guys believe MS would do something like this in regards to used games and Sony would not. MS can't be that stupid... Right? This has to be publisher driven.
This of course assumes we truly understand what 'this' really means.
And don't expect a bunch of games from big publishers on the PS4 if it is left up to publishers and Sony excludes it. Or they will just pull an EA and require an online activation code.
I am fairly sure I saw something about Sony saying publishers could do something like this if they so choose. That could be the reason they are not really exploiting this situation.
If their controller didn't suck balls I would be in the exact same boat as you I think, it has come to that. I don't think I could adapt to those brutal thumbstick locations though. It's X1 or back to pc, for me. This is possibly the most important E3 in history, for these guys to redeem themselves.
Have you looked at the new controller and compared it to the PS3? It is slightly larger with the thumb sticks spaced further apart and supposed to have increased tension so it is more precise than before.
That said, 30,000,000+ people seem to think the PS3 controller isn't a deal breaker when they buy one.
It's too much to ask, but I really wish they would group up all the stupid branding video's into just a text list on the title screen like they used to back in the NES days. It was so nice to turn the system on and bam, right to the title screen with branding stuff written in small text at the bottom.
I hate...hate seeing all those drawn out little video clips just to say "EA" or whatever, like I don't know who made or something much less care. At least make them so they only play once in a great while.
It's yet to be proven you can on PS4 either, so I'd hold off on your decision.
I'm leaning the same way though. If PS4 doesn't have any of this crap, that's what I'll be getting.
I'm truly surprised that some of you guys believe MS would do something like this in regards to used games and Sony would not. MS can't be that stupid... Right? This has to be publisher driven.
This of course assumes we truly understand what 'this' really means.
If their controller didn't suck balls I would be in the exact same boat as you I think, it has come to that. I don't think I could adapt to those brutal thumbstick locations though. It's X1 or back to pc, for me. This is possibly the most important E3 in history, for these guys to redeem themselves.
Me and my brother were laughing about it this morning, but with the news coming out about how the NSA has access to everything Microsoft does, I wonder just what kind of wondrous ways the NSA will use a camera that's connected to a system that's always on...
Heck with my previous theories of hackers getting access, NSA already has access so most of the work is already done. I really wish MS would allow us to remove the Kinect from the XBone.
Unfortunately I can't do PC gaming, well I can but I lose the social aspect of it because none of my friends are PC gamers, they're console gamers.
Well that can change. Now that they've seen the Xbox One it should be easier than ever to get them to upgrade to PC gaming.
Me and my brother were laughing about it this morning, but with the news coming out about how the NSA has access to everything Microsoft does, I wonder just what kind of wondrous ways the NSA will use a camera that's connected to a system that's always on...
Heck with my previous theories of hackers getting access, NSA already has access so most of the work is already done. I really wish MS would allow us to remove the Kinect from the XBone.
That's a painfully asinine sentiment. I really hope you're not that dumb.
There are few things worse for any industry, let alone the gaming industry, than LESS competition.
I will give my business to Sony if they have a better product and better policies. But they're not my friend. They're not a family member. They don't have my best interests in mind. This isn't the Rebellion vs. The Empire with a happily ever after ending. The last thing anyone should want is less competition.
This is complete FUD though. Do you worry about the webcam on your laptop spying on you? Do you think Google Glass is going to be transmitting video/images back to Google and the NSA? Just because there is a camera attached to an electronic device, it doesn't mean the camera will be spying on you. The government still needs a warrant if they want to listen into you phone call, it's no different with Skype. It's more likely a virus could hijack your camera on your laptop than the NSA watching you play video games.Me and my brother were laughing about it this morning, but with the news coming out about how the NSA has access to everything Microsoft does, I wonder just what kind of wondrous ways the NSA will use a camera that's connected to a system that's always on...
Heck with my previous theories of hackers getting access, NSA already has access so most of the work is already done. I really wish MS would allow us to remove the Kinect from the XBone.
You mean the push to Steam where the only difference in DRM policy is that you don't have to connect to the internet once a day to play your games. You actually have quite a bit more flexibility with physical Xbox One games compared to Steam games. Basically the only reason why people love Steam is that the games go on sale a lot more and have cheap indie games.Well that can change. Now that they've seen the Xbox One it should be easier than ever to get them to upgrade to PC gaming.
This is complete FUD though. Do you worry about the webcam on your laptop spying on you? Do you think Google Glass is going to be transmitting video/images back to Google and the NSA? Just because there is a camera attached to an electronic device, it doesn't mean the camera will be spying on you. The government still needs a warrant if they want to listen into you phone call, it's no different with Skype. It's more likely a virus could hijack your camera on your laptop than the NSA watching you play video games.
You mean the push to Steam where the only difference in DRM policy is that you don't have to connect to the internet once a day to play your games. You actually have quite a bit more flexibility with physical Xbox One games compared to Steam games. Basically the only reason why people love Steam is that the games go on sale a lot more and have cheap indie games.
I think right now, gamers are upset that a few relatively rare scenarios are not going to be possible in the new Xbox. However, I think it's going to be overall a good thing for customers for their games to be essentially stored in the cloud. I like the idea of going to a friend's house and having access to my entire game library from their console. If I have an Xbox in two different rooms, I can access the game library on both of them as well. I also wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see PCs running some games from our Xbox library if the developers allow it.
I don't know what the free silver account from live lets you do anymore (been a long time since I've owned an 360). I think it would allow you to download patches, videos, and some demos? I remember a lot of demos being gold only or gold timed release.
Am I the only one who is more concerned with kinect required more than any of the other issues?
If their controller didn't suck balls I would be in the exact same boat as you I think, it has come to that. I don't think I could adapt to those brutal thumbstick locations though. It's X1 or back to pc, for me. This is possibly the most important E3 in history, for these guys to redeem themselves.
As long as I can mash a button to skip them, I'm okay with it. Although, I do kind of like hearing the SAAAAY-GUH logo when I play some of their games. It brings me back to a better time! :$LOL this is the first thing I try to edit out of the .ini on PC games. How to turn off all those videos you can't skip that advertise for EA/Nvidia/AMD/Havok/intel etc
This is complete FUD though. Do you worry about the webcam on your laptop spying on you? Do you think Google Glass is going to be transmitting video/images back to Google and the NSA? Just because there is a camera attached to an electronic device, it doesn't mean the camera will be spying on you. The government still needs a warrant if they want to listen into you phone call, it's no different with Skype. It's more likely a virus could hijack your camera on your laptop than the NSA watching you play video games.
You mean the push to Steam where the only difference in DRM policy is that you don't have to connect to the internet once a day to play your games. You actually have quite a bit more flexibility with physical Xbox One games compared to Steam games. Basically the only reason why people love Steam is that the games go on sale a lot more and have cheap indie games.
I think right now, gamers are upset that a few relatively rare scenarios are not going to be possible in the new Xbox. However, I think it's going to be overall a good thing for customers for their games to be essentially stored in the cloud. I like the idea of going to a friend's house and having access to my entire game library from their console. If I have an Xbox in two different rooms, I can access the game library on both of them as well. I also wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see PCs running some games from our Xbox library if the developers allow it.
This is complete FUD though. Do you worry about the webcam on your laptop spying on you? Do you think Google Glass is going to be transmitting video/images back to Google and the NSA? Just because there is a camera attached to an electronic device, it doesn't mean the camera will be spying on you. The government still needs a warrant if they want to listen into you phone call, it's no different with Skype.
Steam is better in so many ways. No paying every month/year like XBox Live. You can be disconnected from the internet longer with Steam. Steam servers will likely be around a lot longer than MS game servers. No shutting them down next generation which may happen with consoles. Most likely all your steam games will still work with your next generation computer. Your 360 games won't run on the Xbone.You mean the push to Steam where the only difference in DRM policy is that you don't have to connect to the internet once a day to play your games. You actually have quite a bit more flexibility with physical Xbox One games compared to Steam games. Basically the only reason why people love Steam is that the games go on sale a lot more and have cheap indie games.
You can actually turn the Kinect off though, you just can't unplug it. If it is off, it is off until you turn it back on. It will not listen or respond to commands or actions. When the system is off, it's only looking for the "Xbox On" voice command and I believe you can still even turn that off. The Xbox isn't sending any of it's Kinect data back unless it's explicitly through an app that you have given permission to do so.I would have thought it FUD too until the revelations of the last few days. You would think they need a search warrant to seize call data from Verizon users... buuut.. or to seize emails and everything else going through Google/Apple/Microsoft/Yahoo... buuut...
I can guarantee there are people in the intelligence community drooling at the thought of an always on system connected to servers they have already compromised. See, it requires no malware infestation, they already have access. Will Microsoft allow that? From the last reports we got, it doesn't sound like they have much of a choice.
That's why I'd prefer that MS allow us to not have to have Kinect always connected and on or listening. This round however is unfortunately looking like MS has completely sold out the gamer in the name of greater profits.
Since the Patriot Act the government has been engaged in warrantless wiretapping.
Steam is better in so many ways. No paying every month/year like XBox Live. You can be disconnected from the internet longer with Steam. Steam servers will likely be around a lot longer than MS game servers. No shutting them down next generation which may happen with consoles. Most likely all your steam games will still work with your next generation computer. Your 360 games won't run on the Xbone.
And I can use other gaming services to. Not all of them have DRM. If you don't like Steam try GOG. With the Xbone, you're stuck with Microsoft, until the shut down their servers, then you have nothing. And you know MS will, it's just a matter of when.
The DRM policy for Steam is essentially the same as for the Xbox One games you buy online with the exception that you don't have to phone home once a day. People aren't complaining about Steam DRM and that's my point here.
There has been no warrantless wiretapping of calls inside the US. They have pushed it to one party has to be outside the US, but still, if it's inside the US, they need a warrant.
The DRM policy for Steam is essentially the same as for the Xbox One games you buy online with the exception that you don't have to phone home once a day. People aren't complaining about Steam DRM and that's my point here.