This. All of the statistically insignificant hypothetical situations where one may not be able to play his Xbox are absurd.
Ah, I understand. That makes a little more sense. I understand the benefit of persistence for multiplayer, but some of this discussion of calculating real time data like calculating nearby trees in the cloud seems ridiculous, since that data gets fed right to the GPU. If they can prove me wrong, more power to 'em.
Very bad report to use, since you have no clue how many people w/o a PC have a console (or instead of). Not uncommon at all. I know plenty w/o internet or computers but have consoles. I know that is sometimes hard to get your head around from us obsessive AT forum people
There are still plenty of people who simply have a phone and no internet, and many combinations thereof.
Worthwhile point but from the source article
"Overall, 0.6% of households have an iPad, tablet computer, or video-capable eReader, but do not use a laptop or desktop at home."
I would suggest that actually rate of people without some sort of computer and no internet availability and also own a console and not one of above is a pretty limited number. OECD.org suggests 68.4% peneration in the US, but its a year old.
Either way it's going to fall short of a 'large majority'
What's absurd is the extrapolation of your experience in an attempt to redefine reality.
And again, it's not just about having to check in and not having internet available. It's about what happens down the road when MS decides they want a new round of funding, so they shut down access to the hundreds of millions of games in circulation and force everyone to buy XBOX TWO.
Stop being so short-sighted.
You know, in a previous post I thought ImpulsE had actually said "large minority" but I was wrong. I'd agree with you that the Xbox One's former online requirement would not affect a large majority of people, but would in fact be inconvenient for a large minority. It's not a ton of people but to just brush them off is insulting. Anyone without internet, anyone who doesn't have wifi and also doesn't have an ethernet network, anyone outside of certain countries, most troops... that's not a majority of people but it is still significant.
New rumor, hot off the press:
http://www.examiner.com/article/rum...inect-requirement-without-xbox-one-price-drop
A Microsoft employee responded to a question regarding the Kinect attachment, saying it will not be required to be connected in order for the system to function.
The article title is misleading; there's no need to mention a price drop unless they're considering not bundling the Kinect anymore, which doesn't appear to be the case. You'll still get a Kinect whether you want it or not, you just won't be required to have it hooked up.
I sort of felt like it was possible it was like this all along, but the MS exec who was initially quoted as saying the system won't work without the Kinect likely had no idea what he was talking about, or was confused by the very concept of someone not wanting it hooked up all the time. Obviously, Kinect functions won't work without Kinect, but IMO, Kinect brings very little to the table. I have zero desire for voice and gesture control when buttons are faster and more precise.
just curious why is that person he is talking to has an edelman.com email and not a microsoft email?
Either it changed already, or I'm not reading it the same as you.
Well, I caved and just pre-ordered an XB1 today. I'm not on the day one list but I'll get one in the second shipment.
Also sold my Wiiu to someone who wanted it which is the reason I went to pre-order an XB1 in the first place. I'll buy another Wiiu sometime later on i'm sure.
Sucker.
lol...sucker for what? Cause I don't play the Wiiu and might actually get use out of Forza and stuff?
Sucker.
lol...sucker for what? Cause I don't play the Wiiu right now and I'm not real confident I'll enjoy Pikmin and Wonderful 101 enough but might actually get use out of Forza and stuff?
Why is this a uniquely Microsoft problem?
What I think people are missing is that even if the system isn't always online, most games will "require" online in that not being online gives you a rather gimped experience. Call of Duty does not sell 25 million units a year because it has such an awesome single player experience. And I really wonder how many people play Call of Duty local multi-player with a split screen mode. Does it even have a split screen mode?
lol...sucker for what? Cause I don't play the Wiiu right now and I'm not real confident I'll enjoy Pikmin and Wonderful 101 enough but might actually get use out of Forza and stuff?
Meh. If you're the least bit interested its worthwhile to put in a pre-order at amazon. Costs you nothing and you can always cancel if you change your mind. At the very least it allows you to see how things play out and get a console before the holidays if you decide you want it. I have a xb1 and 5 ps4's pre-ordered ATM.
Yep. You are a sucker because you aren't letting Lord Sony into you're heart and are instead making a decision to buy the false idol's product because you might enjoy a game or two on it.
We have good news! One of your pre-ordered items is now eligible for release date delivery and has been upgraded at no additional charge. Your new delivery estimate is:
"Xbox One Console - Day One Edition"
Estimated arrival date: November 27, 2013
I just received an e-mail from Amazon about my X1 pre-order:
That's the day before Thanksgiving, which would match up with the theory that the consoles will probably be out before Black Friday. This is rather close, but it works.