The Official Xbox One Thread

[purbeast0]

also got the email about the preorder from amazon, which means i should be getting my xbox1 on my actual birthday.

woot woot taking the day off to play some ki!

 

[sze5003]

also got the email about the preorder from amazon, which means i should be getting my xbox1 on my actual birthday.

woot woot taking the day off to play some ki!

I'm hoping that the ps4 comes out that week or before. I would also maybe take a day off to play around with it. Need to use my days before the new year anyway.

 

[Aikouka]

I think it should be earlier

I think the retailers would definitely prefer it to be earlier. I haven't worked in retail, but knowing people that have, the time around Black Friday and Thanksgiving is a total fuster cluck. You have people rushing around to get the last item that they need for Thanksgiving while you're also preparing for the upcoming sales.

also got the email about the preorder from amazon, which means i should be getting my xbox1 on my actual birthday.

woot woot taking the day off to play some ki!

Hah, I'll probably just take it off as well as Friday to give myself a five-day weekend. Killer Instinct is really just icing on the proverbial cake! :awe:

I also placed an order for another controller today along with Forza 5. I'm not 100% sure about Forza as I do enjoy racing games, but to be honest... I own Forza 4 (collector's edition), and I've never played it. :$ I also own Forza 2, and I have played that, but what I really want is another Project Gotham Racing; I played that game so much more than Forza. Unfortunately, Bizarre Creations is no more.

EDIT:

Amusingly enough, I think the game that I'll miss the most from Bizarre is probably Geometry Wars. At least Housemarque is still around and has announced a new Stardust game for the PS4.

 

[thecapsaicinkid]

I was a massive fan of the Xbox brand, definitely think the decision to choose the 360 over the PS3 was a good one this generation but I can't resist the better bang for buck of the PS4 this time round. Plus tbh I just fancy a change. If the One was as powerful and retained the ability to play diskless I would've definitely have a pre-order for that instead. I think it has potential to be better than the PS4 though.

 

[Aikouka]

I was a massive fan of the Xbox brand, definitely think the decision to choose the 360 over the PS3 was a good one this generation but I can't resist the better bang for buck of the PS4 this time round. Plus tbh I just fancy a change. If the One was as powerful and retained the ability to play diskless I would've definitely have a pre-order for that instead. I think it has potential to be better than the PS4 though.

At this point, I think the big unknown when it comes to which console is better would be... the operating system. In other words, which one will be more intuitive, faster and overall a better experience. If I were to go on past experience alone, I would say that I have more faith in Microsoft to deliver a good software experience as the 360 has been pretty good in that area so far. Honestly, I can't say the same about the PS3. I was really hoping that Sony would get rid of installations for downloads, but that one preview video showed an "Installation Complete!" notification. So, I doubt that's happening!

One big thing I want to see on the software side is automatic updating, which I think Microsoft has talked about. To be clear, I'm not just talking about updating the operating system, but I really want it to update installed software. I don't want to start Netflix or any installed games to see a prompt that I need to install an update. That's one thing that (most?) people like about Steam... it keeps your installed games up-to-date as long as you tell it to.

 

[Durvelle27]

Microsoft says it was reacting to Sony, not the fans.


http://www.tomsguide.com/us/DRM-Xbo...ayStation-4-Epic,news-17109.html#xtor=RSS-998

 

[Tweak155]

Microsoft says it was reacting to Sony, not the fans.


http://www.tomsguide.com/us/DRM-Xbo...ayStation-4-Epic,news-17109.html#xtor=RSS-998

Do you even read what you're posting before posting it? Or are you in too big of a hurry to up your post count? MS didn't say any of that.

 

[Durvelle27]

Microsoft says it was reacting to Sony, not the fan

The quote is from tomshardware

 

[Via]

Bring back the Xbox1! (lol)

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bring-xbox-one-back-to-the-cloud/

 

[Larnz]

The quote is from tomshardware

Except former Epic Games designer Cliff Bleszinski who said that has nothing to do with Microsoft...

This is just like the supposedly "timed" family sharing shit yesterday, some internet KB warrior pretends to be from MS posts something anon and everyone jumps on the band wagon to bash MS. People really love to hate on MS.

 

[Arkaign]

It's semantics.

If the fans hadn't reacted so negatively to the DRM stuff, it'd still be there. Of course, if Sony hadn't also done what they did, the fans wouldn't have had the ammo to shoot at Microsoft.

All in all, a win for everyone, especially Xbox fans.

 

[Arkaign]

Bring back the Xbox1! (lol)

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bring-xbox-one-back-to-the-cloud/

Wow, the stupidity of people astound me. If they went along with the DRM scheme and online requirement, that would have been the end of the Xbox brand in it's entirety. Not enough systems sold + not enough attachment rate = not enough to sustain the investment = boom, no more xbox anything.

I love the fact that some simply had no idea that the 'family plan' wasn't going to be a glorified demo system.

 

[thecapsaicinkid]

All in all, a win for everyone, especially Xbox fans.

Please stop saying this, you don't speak for all gamers.

 

[Durvelle27]

i might get one when i can find one on sale until then getting a PS4 and keeping my Xbox 360

 

[Arkaign]

Please stop saying this, you don't speak for all gamers.

Ah, so you would prefer Xbox to go under? Do tell!

 

[Tweak155]

The thing is, MS could have had the best of both worlds and let the GAMERS decide. Keep all the same rules for digital content and then have separate rules for disc based.

The market would have decided, rather than MS forcing it on everyone.

 

[Arkaign]

The thing is, MS could have had the best of both worlds and let the GAMERS decide. Keep all the same rules for digital content and then have separate rules for disc based.

The market would have decided, rather than MS forcing it on everyone.

My point exactly.

With the DRM fiasco, along with the artificial limitation making the Xbox One unsellable to military/offline users, there simply wouldn't have been a large enough base of support to sustain their business model. That would mean the loss of the Xbox brand (or at least selling the IP to Samsung/Apple/whoever), and shelving great first-party stuff like Forza/Gears/Halo/etc. It would be a loss for gamers, even if they didn't prefer Xbox. The void would have been filled, but it would take some time.

And all of these magical 'features' that were lost, were lost artificially. Microsoft can still do basically all of it, just leaving it up to the user. The only thing I think would be somewhat unfeasible would be full installations from disc that then don't require the disccheck, which is pretty trivial. Digital-only people could still do discless by using the DD service. This, after all, is the future of gaming eventually : no physical copies at all.

 

[thecapsaicinkid]

Digital-only people could still do discless by using the DD service. This, after all, is the future of gaming eventually : no physical copies at all.

So you agree digital is the future but you're advocating a digital ecosystem with only a single retailer and no pricing competition. Go and check the prices of stuff on Xbox's current Games on Demand service and then come back and tell me the ability to convert shop bought games into digital copies isn't a feature worth having.

 

[smithkt]

I love the fact that some simply had no idea that the 'family plan' wasn't going to be a glorified demo system.

You keep saying this as if it is fact. An anonymous guy claiming to be an employee does not equal fact. Two actual confirmed employees said the guy was full of it.

 

[cmdrdredd]

At this point, I think the big unknown when it comes to which console is better would be... the operating system. In other words, which one will be more intuitive, faster and overall a better experience. If I were to go on past experience alone, I would say that I have more faith in Microsoft to deliver a good software experience as the 360 has been pretty good in that area so far. Honestly, I can't say the same about the PS3. I was really hoping that Sony would get rid of installations for downloads, but that one preview video showed an "Installation Complete!" notification. So, I doubt that's happening!

One big thing I want to see on the software side is automatic updating, which I think Microsoft has talked about. To be clear, I'm not just talking about updating the operating system, but I really want it to update installed software. I don't want to start Netflix or any installed games to see a prompt that I need to install an update. That's one thing that (most?) people like about Steam... it keeps your installed games up-to-date as long as you tell it to.

I remember Sony talking about updates in the background and stuff because they have a dedicated network CPU now.

Please stop saying this, you don't speak for all gamers.

Actually...if you were reading anything on the internet over the last two weeks, a vast majority of gamers do feel this way. You have to be like the guy on the GEICO commercial living under a rock to not realize this.

So you agree digital is the future but you're advocating a digital ecosystem with only a single retailer and no pricing competition. Go and check the prices of stuff on Xbox's current Games on Demand service and then come back and tell me the ability to convert shop bought games into digital copies isn't a feature worth having.

Being able to have the disk is important to me. They can still do it digital too. We get a choice now.

 

[Arkaign]

So you agree digital is the future but you're advocating a digital ecosystem with only a single retailer and no pricing competition. Go and check the prices of stuff on Xbox's current Games on Demand service and then come back and tell me the ability to convert shop bought games into digital copies isn't a feature worth having.

Hi, I think you misunderstand my meaning a bit.

I do agree completely that the Xbox/Microsoft pricing for their digitally distributed titles. This is certainly due to the lack of competition on the platform (Same true for all monopolistic DD types, though arguably Sony does have some better deals on PS+).

However, my point was simply that those decrying the loss of the DRM-infested online-only Xbox One plan (thankfully these mentally deficient people are few) don't really have a leg to stand on logically when you consider that the titles ARE available digitally already if they so choose, along with the fact that having those DD titles available to download wherever they log into, family 'sharing' (a glorified demo system it turns out), and so on aren't really technically impossible by the removal of the 24hr check and single-license installation scheme for physical media.

 

[sze5003]

You keep saying this as if it is fact. An anonymous guy claiming to be an employee does not equal fact. Two actual confirmed employees said the guy was full of it.

We won't know now because it's not there anymore. But did you actually believe they would let you share a full game ? I believe more in it having been a timed play followed by maybe some annoying prompt to check the rest out from the market. Had they been more honest about the real way it worked we could have known. But I have a feeling there was something like this in there that they didn't want to publicly state.

 

[Arkaign]

You keep saying this as if it is fact. An anonymous guy claiming to be an employee does not equal fact. Two actual confirmed employees said the guy was full of it.

It doesn't pass the logic test that a corporation bent on huge DRM and who equates used games as piracy would allow unhindered sharing of titles with 10 people at a time. This would decimate sales far more than used games ever would, in particular single-player games without a lot of replay value could be passed around easily.

If one buys that at face value without examining the overall agenda at work (this goes for Sony as well of course), then I can't really help you.

Sometimes it's correct to by cynical, and just on a dollars and cents outlook, sharing games with 10 people with different XBL accounts without some sort of hourly limitation would never have flown with publishers. They'd even have hard data in real time to show them how much money they think they're losing. "Look, people have logged 750k hours this week in family shared titles, and that has only led to XX purchases of those titles for the people in the sharing plan, this is losing $ for us".

Too good to be true = too good to be true. Every single time.

 

[blurredvision]

Well, at least we had a few posts with actual discussion on the pre-order before we got back into the DRM pissing match.

 

[Arkaign]

Well, at least we had a few posts with actually discussion on the pre-order because we got back into the DRM pissing match.

Apologies, it's mostly a moot issue, things will actually be quite awesome with the Xbox One now.

I was merely making the point that the vaunted 'cool' things about the previous iteration of the system are still possible. Give people the choice of setting the system up as 'online-only' mode with a separate EULA. This could do the verify for whatever purposes you'd want. I don't think a ton of people would take them up on that.

Back to the system, yes, post-180, preorders look strong, and we should have a great launch now, I expect there to be other good surprises before the ship date as well.