The Official Xbox One Thread

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smackababy

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That Rome game used to be a Kinect title. >_>

They had some on the floor of E3 though. I remember hearing about at least one. I think they were reacting to the backlash of the announcement and catering towards "hardcore" gamers who cry when you steal their controller.
 

DaveSimmons

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im really surprised that with all of the kinect they are trying to hype, up they had 0 games in their keynote that showed it off.

More than that, they dis-kinected Ryse. It was originally a Kinect game, now it's not. So -1 game

It seems like the microphone for chat and voice controls will be the main use for it at launch.

They had some on the floor of E3 though. I remember hearing about at least one.

Maybe a dance or fitness game? I didn't see any listed in the E3 coverage, but I wasn't fanatical about reading or watching it all.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Saying something is a top seller when there is only one type or variety to order vs 4 different types or varieties for the other system isn't really factual. My whole deal with it is they are pre orders. Anyone could cancel when they want. Pre orders don't really represent actual sales.
The point is - The XBone is undoubtedly doing better in preorders than it was before the damage control began. The responses of "PS4 still rules because it has more models for sale" reads to me like the Sony Defense Force hard at work. And preorders have been discussed since they began. The obfuscation and deflection over them, only started when the XBone moved up in rank. If that was your's or any of the others stance previously, I failed to read those posts. Feel free to link to them; I am always willing to apologize for mischaracterizing others actions. As is, I just see a bunch PS fanboys showing their colors.
 

smackababy

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The point is - The XBone is undoubtedly doing better in preorders than it was before the damage control began. The responses of "PS4 still rules because it has more models for sale" reads to me like the Sony Defense Force hard at work. And preorders have been discussed since they began. The obfuscation and deflection over them, only started when the XBone moved up in rank. If that was your's or any of the others stance previously, I failed to read those posts. Feel free to link to them; I am always willing to apologize for mischaracterizing others actions. As is, I just see a bunch PS fanboys showing their colors.

But Sony is in the lead and has a thousand different versions!!!!!
 

sze5003

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The point is - The XBone is undoubtedly doing better in preorders than it was before the damage control began. The responses of "PS4 still rules because it has more models for sale" reads to me like the Sony Defense Force hard at work. And preorders have been discussed since they began. The obfuscation and deflection over them, only started when the XBone moved up in rank. If that was your's or any of the others stance previously, I failed to read those posts. Feel free to link to them; I am always willing to apologize for mischaracterizing others actions. As is, I just see a bunch PS fanboys showing their colors.

I agree Xbox one is doing better than previously in pre orders. I'm not a fan of either company. I've had Xbox, ps, and pc. I just believe in concrete data and don't really care for how many pre orders. I'll wait until the systems are out, then lets see how many bought / sold whatever system.

Just because one has the most pre orders may not mean it's better.
 

purbeast0

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i don't give 2 shits which console sells more or how many were bought. it has absolutely 0 effect on my decision whether or not i will get a console. the libraries on the consoles dictate that.

i will never understand that people who are obsessed with "their" console "winning"
 

American Gunner

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At the end of the day, who gives a shit about pre-order numbers. Obviously the Xbox will have a large online community, and that's all that matters. My group of friends have settled on getting the XB1 at launch, so I know that's all that matters to me.
 

exdeath

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Yeah its funny watching people get all personal with preorder numbers.

It was funny before to see Microsoft being punished with people's wallets for taking an anti consumer stance. And it helped to achieve a landmark DRM policy reversal.

But anyone still caring after the backtrack is pretty amusing.
 
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smackababy

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Yeah its funny watching people get all personal with preorder numbers.

It was funny before to see Microsoft being punished with people's wallets for taking an anti consumer stance. And it help to achieve a landmark DRM reversal.

But anyone still caring after the backtrack is pretty amusing.

But they backtracked, which meant they want that stance! They are evil!!!


This just reminds me of the Android vs iPhone debate. Each side trying to bash each other. I just get the phone I enjoy using more and which has the best battery life because what I do can be done on both (text, calls, web search, and the occasional gps).
 

Tweak155

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you don't care about your image, yet you are wondering/worried about him calling you a fanboy... rriigghhtt.

I'm simply correcting him. If I was a fanboy I'd be fine being called as such.

Except your "facts" are lined up with reality. You are complaining about a feature that we have no idea as to how or if it will be even used. You are complaining about the Xbox One having an infrastructure set up so if a developer wants to require a connection to a server to play a single player game, they can shut it down at any time. This is not some Xbox One only phenomenon! You can do the exact same thing on the PS4 and the PC and probably the Wii U. But, of course, MS is the bad company for making it easier and cheaper for developers to do this.

I don't agree with your statements, but that aside, only one has made the bold statement of increasing the power of their system by a factor of 4. It makes it a noteworthy topic.
 

cmdrdredd

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i don't give 2 shits which console sells more or how many were bought. it has absolutely 0 effect on my decision whether or not i will get a console. the libraries on the consoles dictate that.

i will never understand that people who are obsessed with "their" console "winning"

It may make some difference if you consider that if one outsells the other by a wide margin it could potentially get more exclusive content in the long run simply due to the fact that there are more users.
 

smackababy

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It may make some difference if you consider that if one outsells the other by a wide margin it could potentially get more exclusive content in the long run simply due to the fact that there are more users.

Except exclusives are only because they are either first party developed or the company pays money for them to be exclusive. Otherwise, it makes no sense not to release multiplatform. And, in the event, Sony destroys MS in sales, MS has plenty of money to get exclusives. If MS destroys Sony, can Sony afford $100 million to a developer for a system seller?
 

cmdrdredd

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Except exclusives are only because they are either first party developed or the company pays money for them to be exclusive. Otherwise, it makes no sense not to release multiplatform. And, in the event, Sony destroys MS in sales, MS has plenty of money to get exclusives. If MS destroys Sony, can Sony afford $100 million to a developer for a system seller?

Well, it depends on what you mean by "exclusive content". They may get exclusive maps, extra DLC etc because they can sell more copies on that machine if they hype the fact that you get stuff the other guy doesn't.

Not that they'll limit their game to a single console but they'll offer an incentive to one which has more users hoping they can get those extra however many million people to buy into the game.
 

purbeast0

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It may make some difference if you consider that if one outsells the other by a wide margin it could potentially get more exclusive content in the long run simply due to the fact that there are more users.

what part of "it has 0 effect on my decision to purchase a console" don't you understand? i'm not a psychic so i won't know what the sales will be like 5 years down the road, 5 years after i own the consoles. you love to just try and counter-point every single post of mine.

so no, you are 100% factually wrong that it will have absolutely no difference on whether or not i buy the consoles.

i will anxious await to see how you try to counter-point this one.
 

purbeast0

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Well, it depends on what you mean by "exclusive content". They may get exclusive maps, extra DLC etc because they can sell more copies on that machine if they hype the fact that you get stuff the other guy doesn't.

Not that they'll limit their game to a single console but they'll offer an incentive to one which has more users hoping they can get those extra however many million people to buy into the game.

he didn't say "exclusive content" he said exclusives, then goes on to talk about first-party developers. you have been around here long enough to know what the term "exclusives" means.

again, you are just trying to counter-point every post from people who aren't anti-ms. your past 2 replies are prime examples of what i meant when i said i'm 100% convinced you like to argue for the sake of arguing.
 

cmdrdredd

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he didn't say "exclusive content" he said exclusives, then goes on to talk about first-party developers. you have been around here long enough to know what the term "exclusives" means.

again, you are just trying to counter-point every post from people who aren't anti-ms. your past 2 replies are prime examples of what i meant when i said i'm 100% convinced you like to argue for the sake of arguing.

I specifically said in my original comment exclusive content. You yourself quoted that exact text.

I did not say exclusive games, I know full well how those work. I've been gaming for almost 30 years...I understand how one system gets games the other does not.

You and smackababy need to do a little reading comprehension or something. I never said exclusive games.
 

smackababy

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Well, it depends on what you mean by "exclusive content". They may get exclusive maps, extra DLC etc because they can sell more copies on that machine if they hype the fact that you get stuff the other guy doesn't.

Not that they'll limit their game to a single console but they'll offer an incentive to one which has more users hoping they can get those extra however many million people to buy into the game.

That makes zero sense. If I release a game on PS4 and Xbox One and then make DLC, regardless of how many people own it on PS4, I lose pretty much 100% of the sales potential by not releasing it on the Xbox as well. And, the only "incentive" I would have for a timed exclusive is either console maker giving me money to delay it on the competitor, which in the case the LOSING company will most likely benefit much more from that deal, because it could help move systems.
 

cmdrdredd

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That makes zero sense. If I release a game on PS4 and Xbox One and then make DLC, regardless of how many people own it on PS4, I lose pretty much 100% of the sales potential by not releasing it on the Xbox as well. And, the only "incentive" I would have for a timed exclusive is either console maker giving me money to delay it on the competitor, which in the case the LOSING company will most likely benefit much more from that deal, because it could help move systems.

Look, we know you could get DLC on the 360 you couldn't get on PS3. That's due to the number of users who would potentially buy that content and perhaps some incentives from MS to do so.

It's not unheard of for some content to be exclusive to a system but have the game on both. I've seen extra characters available at release etc.

You're saying it won't happen. I'm saying it did, does, and will.
 

smackababy

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I specifically said in my original comment exclusive content. You yourself quoted that exact text.

I did not say exclusive games, I know full well how those work. I've been gaming for almost 30 years...I understand how one system gets games the other does not.

You and smackababy need to do a little reading comprehension or something. I never said exclusive games.

I don't think you do understand. There is no "exclusive content" for games released on both systems that I know of. Timed exclusives yes, but never one gets DLC and the other doesn't. And, again, that offers no benefit to the developer of said content. Why would I only release DLC to 100 million people, when I could release it to 101 million? Or 150 million? Or 200 million?
They only incentive is from being paid by MS or Sony, as to which, MS has the record of doing it and can afford to do it a lot more than Sony. So, unless MS crushes Sony in sales (which is looking unlikely as of right now), I think either console will get just as much developer love as the other.
 

KaOTiK

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There is plenty of exclusive DLC on current consoles. Some of it can be rather substantial as well. The last one I can think of without checking is for Metal Gear Rising, the PS3 gets VR missions, which if you are a MGS fan is a pretty big deal.
 

American Gunner

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There is plenty of exclusive DLC on current consoles. Some of it can be rather substantial as well. The last one I can think of without checking is for Metal Gear Rising, the PS3 gets VR missions, which if you are a MGS fan is a pretty big deal.
Plus Ubi seems to be giving a lot of exclusive content to Sony. Watch dogs will have a hour of gameplay.
 

sze5003

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While exclusive stuff may mean a lot to some people. I don't really take much from it. At most it's like a new character model or outfit, weapon or something. I usually play the game to play it that's all.
 
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