The Official Xbox One Thread

[smackababy]

They always count Wii Sports which was a pack in game. It doesn't count. Remove that game from the list.

Look at vgchartz(they suck but it's easy to look up) for 2010, 2011, 2012. How many Wii games are in the top 10 sales? I did the work and have excluded free pack in titles(wii sports, wii sports resort, kinect adventures).

2010
Wii - 3 total software sales 94,522,343
360 - 2 total software sales 75,913,202
PS3 - 1 total software sales 55,644,982


2011
Wii - 2 total software sales 71,571,209
360 - 4 total software sales 87,901,223
PS3 - 1 total software sales 62,152,284

2012
Wii - 1 total software sales 38,915,977
360 - 3 total software sales 75,021,416
PS3 - 2 total software sales 48,666,929



As of 2013 the lifetime software sales are as follows. As you can see, the 360 leads by over 10 million.
Wii - 426,002,285
360 - 437,626,851
PS3 - 272,293,769

We can examine further and see the metacritic scores from each year. The Wii has the lowest average review score every single year while the PS3 has the highest.

2010
http://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-video-games-of-2010

2011
http://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-video-games-of-2011

2012
http://www.metacritic.com/feature/best-video-games-of-2012

You can exclude 24 million from the Xbox 360 (as that is how many Kinects they sold) and then exclude 94 million (number of Wiis sold) and get the true attachment rate.

 

[Tweak155]

These numbers don't make any sense between posts. I'm wondering if regions are a factor.

 

[cmdrdredd]

You can exclude 24 million from the Xbox 360 (as that is how many Kinects they sold) and then exclude 94 million (number of Wiis sold) and get the true attachment rate.

Right, but even with the inflated numbers overall...the Wii is not leading and in the last few years lost ground and was overtaken in 2012 to PS3 sales.

 

[cmdrdredd]

These numbers don't make any sense between posts. I'm wondering if regions are a factor.

This is all US sales data only.

 

[Tweak155]

This is all US sales data only.

It doesn't make sense to look at only US sales.

Honestly it's not a huge deal which sold the most anyway, the original point being that the Wii - even with subpar graphics comparatively - did really well. So if you take into consideration the gap between the Wii and X360 or PS3, the "gap" (we don't know the official gap yet it seems...) between the XB1 and the PS4 is a lot smaller comparatively.

 

[cmdrdredd]

It doesn't make sense to look at only US sales.

Honestly it's not a huge deal which sold the most anyway, the original point being that the Wii - even with subpar graphics comparatively - did really well. So if you take into consideration the gap between the Wii and X360 or PS3, the "gap" (we don't know the official gap yet it seems...) between the XB1 and the PS4 is a lot smaller comparatively.

The original point is the software sales weren't that great when you remove the game you got free with the system. PLUS the games were rated lower.

So shittier games and sales that are shit without counting the free titles. You can't spin it because you have to only count games that are purchased separately from the system. System sales don't tell the whole story. You can sell a billion systems but if only 2million get any actual use does it matter?

 

[Tweak155]

The original point is the software sales weren't that great when you remove the game you got free with the system. PLUS the games were rated lower.

So shittier games and sales that are shit without counting the free titles. You can't spin it because you have to only count games that are purchased separately from the system.

Actually it wasn't the original argument (trace it back), and what do you call removing sales outside the US?

 

[smackababy]

The original point is the software sales weren't that great when you remove the game you got free with the system. PLUS the games were rated lower.

So shittier games and sales that are shit without counting the free titles. You can't spin it because you have to only count games that are purchased separately from the system. System sales don't tell the whole story. You can sell a billion systems but if only 2million get any actual use does it matter?

It speaks volumes. Look at the WiiU, and how well it is doing. Then look at the attachment rates. It is abysmal. Lower than Dreamcast, and you can just burn the games onto a CD on that system. Nothing else required. Just a CD burner.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Actually it wasn't the original argument (trace it back), and what do you call removing sales outside the US?

It's the only data that is accurate. Yes it WAS the original argument, made my ME.

You can check Europe sales... Ps3 outsells everything. Or Japan if you want Where PS3 rapes Wii too over the last few years.

Total software sales in europe. That's right in 2012 PC sales beat Wii


2011
PS3 - 28,803,432
360 - 27,250,275
Wii - 18,895,882

2012
PS3 - 43,839,922
X360 - 39,597,909
PC - 19,496,556
Wii - 19,094,144


Japan sales data by year we all know the 360 doesn't sell there
2011
PS3 - 13,374,595
Wii - 8,692,336

2012
PS3 - 12,709,249
Wii - 4,968,779

 

[purbeast0]

cool another stupid ass argument that is irrelevant to xbox1! just what this thread needs more of!

you all love to argue for the sake of arguing.

saw all these new posts in here and knew there wasn't going to be any new xbox1 info.

 

[Tweak155]

cool another stupid ass argument that is irrelevant to xbox1! just what this thread needs more of!

you all love to argue for the sake of arguing.

saw all these new posts in here and knew there wasn't going to be any new xbox1 info.

Way to contribute to what you're whining about.

 

[Dominato3r]

Was installing AC2 onto my 360 and just realized how terrible hardrive management is on the 360. I really hope they make it cleaner because it takes ages to clean that thing up.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Was installing AC2 onto my 360 and just realized how terrible hardrive management is on the 360. I really hope they make it cleaner because it takes ages to clean that thing up.

The PS3 isn't really much better when a game does an install.

 

[purbeast0]

i think its cause the 360 dash is just SLOW AS FUCKING SHIT and i don't understand why. hope the x1 interface isn't as unresponsive as the 360 dash.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Was installing AC2 onto my 360 and just realized how terrible hardrive management is on the 360. I really hope they make it cleaner because it takes ages to clean that thing up.

Well if we've learned anything from MS over the years it's that they suck at software.

I only loved my Xbox because I hacked it.

 

[Dominato3r]

Its really just missing one thing, and that it the ability to delete folders. Right now you have to delete individual files, and when you have game folders with multiple saves, dlc, etc it takes forever.

 

[smackababy]

Its really just missing one thing, and that it the ability to delete folders. Right now you have to delete individual files, and when you have game folders with multiple saves, dlc, etc it takes forever.

I am pretty sure you can delete all the saves associated with a game. They are in a folder hierarchy in place. At least on the 360. If this is missing on the Xbox One, I have no idea.

 

[Midwayman]

XB1 expected to outship ps4 3 to 1 this year.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=european-daily

Strange if true.

 

[smackababy]

XB1 expected to outship ps4 3 to 1 this year.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=european-daily

Strange if true.

It seems like it is due to MS having more supply. I do agree that the price won't be a huge factor in day one purchases though.

Thankfully, I preordered both the second they were put up on Amazon. No shortages for me.

 

[Drako]

XB1 expected to outship ps4 3 to 1 this year.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=european-daily

Strange if true.

I thought MS was having yield issues, or was that misreported?

 

[Rage187]

I thought MS was having yield issues, or was that misreported?

They are preparing for the return rate of broken consoles.

 

[dagamer34]

I thought MS was having yield issues, or was that misreported?

Never believe rumors. :whiste:

 

[BladeVenom]

XB1 expected to outship ps4 3 to 1 this year.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=european-daily

Strange if true.

I wouldn't believe it till I see it.

 

[zerocool84]

I wouldn't believe it till I see it.

Pre-orders are already hugely in favor of PS4 so unless something huge happens, this is definitely not happening.

 

[purbeast0]

Pre-orders are already hugely in favor of PS4 so unless something huge happens, this is definitely not happening.

that really means nothing when it comes to the physical product.