The Real Donald Trump?

Mai72

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Sep 12, 2012
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRogXTFtpUc

The media makes it seek like Donald is a racist. Just an all around bad and nasty man, But is that the truth.

This videos makes it seem that DT is an actually good guy.

Trump paid off the couple's mortgage for helping him when his limo had a flat tire.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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He could be a really great guy but he painted himself this way, it didn't come out of nowhere. For all we know it was just a big show to get more attention on him and it worked but it still doesn't change the way he presented himself.
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
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He could be a really great guy but he painted himself this way, it didn't come out of nowhere. For all we know it was just a big show to get more attention on him and it worked but it still doesn't change the way he presented himself.

No doubt. I still contend that what he said was all for votes and exposure.

It doesn't take back what he said, I agree with you on that. He has a lot of work to do.
 
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No doubt. I still contend that what he said was all for votes and exposure.

It doesn't take back what he said, I agree with you on that. He has a lot of work to do.
Of course it was for votes. To his own benefit with no care for the damage it did. Just like he runs his business.

And yet the right tells us nothing was racist about his campaign.
 

Dari

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Oct 25, 2002
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He's no racist. A sex fiend, maybe. Glad I was able to do my part in bringing Trump to power. And, now, I'm back after an 18 month sabbatical.
 

interchange

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Oct 10, 1999
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Trump paid off the couple's mortgage for helping him when his limo had a flat tire.

I doubt I will be believed when I say this. However, I know that it's true. The man worked as a shoe representative and befriended my dad when he was a representative for a different company. He passed away about 15-20 years ago. It's been a long time since I heard the story, but as I remember it being told he wanted to pay them and they refused, and he wanted to get their names but they said no thanks were needed. They were shocked at the gesture and didn't even know how Trump had tracked down who they were.
 

ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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I've never seen so many people who were so confident in a person they would want to be president and then hope that he wouldn't be everything he portrayed himself to be his whole life.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Well, right on schedule, the miraculous transformation of Trump the Asshole Scam Master in Chief into Trump the Honest and Benevolent President of All Time is ramping up and hanging ten.

Just keeping tabs on this transformation is pretty fun to watch.
 

EchoWars

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Love this quote:
Alair Townsend, a former deputy mayor in the Koch administration, once quipped, "I wouldn't believe Donald Trump if his tongue were notarized."
 

BonzaiDuck

Lifer
Jun 30, 2004
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He could be a really great guy but he painted himself this way, it didn't come out of nowhere. For all we know it was just a big show to get more attention on him and it worked but it still doesn't change the way he presented himself.

I've seen countless administrations come and go, from Truman to W-Dummy. It's been eight years, but I'd still like to see Bush and Cheney put on trial and sentenced to 99 years in the electric chair.

Looking back, I can't say I really "knew" any of the prospective candidates before they were elected. Even with Obama, I could only say in 2007 that he looked "like a good bet."

But I will say profoundly that I've known Donald Trump for a very long time. I thought he was f***stick when he first appeared in the news during the '90s, and I was getting to know him very well when I first saw "Apprentice" and switched to another channel because I felt that his show was balderdash and not worth my time.

I suspect that many of the cornpone s***a**es who elected this abortion of a clown -- are time-lapse-myopic. For that matter, so is the Donald. Everything is grounded in the present moment, untutored by the Past, with a short-run maximizer's narrow view of a future.

The real Donald was the one we saw since the earliest debates. As a matter of inferential logic, an analysis of his speech, his diction, his usage and verbal organization points first to his personality disorder, and second to his inability for putting on a façade of any type. He doesn't keep track of what he said two months earlier, because what he says today is often totally inconsistent with what he said then. Then, there's his "Twitter" obsession, which also points to an irresponsible present-oriented mentality.

I feel patriotic because I don't hate America 100%. I only hate the 50% who elected the Anti-Christ.

And that points up two paradoxes pertaining to my belief in secular government. Being the Anti-Christ is not a "high crime and misdemeanor." As opposed to the Pillory of Hillary, you actually have to prove that he did something bad.

What we have he-ah . . . is not a failuh to communicate. What we have he-ah is an Asshole who has already made America great again -- as the US of A_____s.

I have friends and acquaintances around the world -- in Germany, Poland, New Zealand, India. They're all laughing at us, even as they're very apprehensive about President F***Stick.

The second paradox: I've decided -- that if I were a church-goer -- I'd refuse to sit in church with any Trump supporter or Republican for that matter to hold hands and have a "Kum-bay-yah" moment. But if I were a church-goer, and I made that decision, I might go to Hell.

And if I go to Hell, I'd still be in the same company. A lot more . . . of the same company.
 

agent00f

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Jun 9, 2016
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I doubt I will be believed when I say this. However, I know that it's true. The man worked as a shoe representative and befriended my dad when he was a representative for a different company. He passed away about 15-20 years ago. It's been a long time since I heard the story, but as I remember it being told he wanted to pay them and they refused, and he wanted to get their names but they said no thanks were needed. They were shocked at the gesture and didn't even know how Trump had tracked down who they were.

How would you diagnose yourself?:

 

BonzaiDuck

Lifer
Jun 30, 2004
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LA TIMES published interviews with Trump voters today, including one in California:

"We're called redneck, ignorant . . . "

The Californian had been a loan officer earning six figures, now sharing a house with four people and commuting 3 hours for $29,000/year. If he speaks of "survival," he's also speaking about desperation. $50,000 in student loan debt! Whew!

So they put a human face on this disaster. And I have a story, or parable of sorts.

A man and his wife struggle to make ends meet in their home. She takes care of the kids as a homemaker; he works in a factory. They have some several thousand in a savings account. Soon, he loses his job, goes on a bender, and wonders how his family will survive. He's desperate.

So unbeknownst to his wife, he goes down to the bank, withdraws all the money, and heads for the Trump Casino’s roulette-wheel. When asked to place his bet, he says "All in!"

He loses the money. Then, the wife confronts him. "What have you done? What have you done?!" she asks.

So this time, we got a candidate who is a known quantity in terms of his psychology, personality, business and even belatedly his tax history. What we didn't know from actual tax returns, most of us keen on the subject actually inferred from what we know and don't know to a fairly accurate degree.

Before the campaign, we knew a lot more about Trump than we may have known about Clinton, Bush or Obama. We saw him in the news back in the '90s; we saw him on the "Apprentice" before we changed channels for something more real. We saw his wife on the front page of the New York Post, naked as a jay-bird. We've heard from businesses who dealt with him and minorities against whom he discriminated. We've now heard from women who came forward about his behavior. It would seem that Trump was a bad bet.

And we -- I say "we" -- could be asking ourselves little by little over the next four years: "What have we done? What have we done?!"

But Miskulin's vote didn't matter anyway and he didn't elect Trump -- he was just a cheerleader. First, California is a blue state, although you could say Miskulin's vote counted in the decision. Second, Mr. Miskulin no less than any of us is simply a fourth of a person, given the nature of the Electoral College. That, I think, was a value placed on slaves before the Civil War. And given the outcome for California, Miskulin is essentially a non-person.

A non-person, like an illegal immigrant, except that Miskulin can vote to have his vote count for nothing.

Further, all this talk about "Trump changing" miraculously is nonsense. A man of 59 years can't have much of a view of the future if he spoke like an adolescent about grabbing pussy. Trump is who he is, and he's not going to change. For a person like that to change for the better, they must experience failure.

We, on the other hand, would not be comfortable risking our fortunes like Trump did with his when he created his 18 years of carry-over loss deductions. Who's to say he won't take greater foolish risks with our country?

Now I have one thing to add here.

In 2000 November, I wrote a letter to a friend in Florida with casual predictions about the future. She later wrote back to me in 2008: "Do you realize that you wrote this in 2000?" However, before that, on September 10, 2001, I and two friends were sitting around a campfire in the North Cascades, eating, drinking and talking. We speculated about the future. We thought we'd soon be in another war, that there would be another headline terrorist attack perhaps directed at the Trade Center, that there was something wrong with the real-estate market and we were headed for trouble. There was an entire list. So obviously, the following morning, at the Artist's Point Ranger Station, we were more dumbfounded than most, and as the next eight years played out, our amazement grew.

I haven't got any predictions to make about the runaway roulette wheel -- not yet. But since I got through eight years of President Cornpone without destroying my TV, I'm going to sit out the next four years, taking notes. And frankly, I really don't want to wait four years to get rid of this . . . . big gamble of a Likely Loser who needs to lose. If he experiences that loss while he's president, we're all Losers -- period.
 
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