Discussion The RK3588 thread

[Shivansps]

I wanted to create a thread about this SoC that is getting more popular these days. Its the first ARM SoC that i could actually consider it as a low power desktop replacement, it has enoght cpu/gpu perf coupled with a actually good video decoder for it.

Right now the two most commonly know SBCs are the Radxa ROCK PI5 and the Orange PI5. With the Orange PI 5 being considerably cheaper because it is using a RK3588S.

RK3588:
CPU:
4x Cortex-A76@2.4GHz + 4x Cortex-A55@1.8GHz;

NPU:
6TOPS, supports INT4/INT8/INT16/FP16 mixed operating;

GPU:
• Mail-G610 MP4
• OpenGLES 1.1, 2.0, 3.2, OpenCL 2.2, Vulkan1.2

VPU:
Decode:
• H.265, VP9: up to 8K@60fps
• H.264 up to 8K@30fps
• AV1 up to 4K@60fps
Encode:
• H.265/HEVC, H.264/AVC: up to 8K@30fps

I/O
-LPDDR4/4X & LPDDR5 2x32Bit
-eMMC 5.1
-2x HDMI2.1
-HDMI IN
-2x2 Lanes PCIe3.0
-3x SATA 3.0
-1x USB3.0 (shared with PCIE20/SATA30)
-2x USB2.0 HOST
-2x USB3.1 + 2x USB2.0 OTG (Two full function Type C)

RK3588S:
CPU:
4x Cortex-A76@2.4GHz + 4x Cortex-A55@1.8GHz;

NPU:
6TOPS, supports INT4/INT8/INT16/FP16 mixed operating;

GPU:
• Mail-G610 MP4
• OpenGLES 1.1, 2.0, 3.2, OpenCL 2.2, Vulkan1.2

VPU:
Decode:
• H.265, VP9: up to 8K@60fps
• H.264 up to 8K@30fps
• AV1 up to 4K@60fps
Encode:
• H.265/HEVC, H.264/AVC: up to 8K@30fps

I/O
-LPDDR4/4X & LPDDR5 2x32Bit
-eMMC 5.1
-1x HDMI2.1
-1x USB3.0 (shared with PCIE20/SATA30)
-2x USB2.0 HOST
-1x USB3.1 + 1x USB2.0 OTG(One full function Type C)
-2x1 Lane PCIE2.0
-2x SATA 3.0

The RK3588S cuts down I/O, it still should have the same performance, but the PCI-E 3.0 is not avalible and the PCI-E 2.0 lanes are reduced to just 2 x1 2.0, so the Orange PI 5 M.2 only have a single PCI-E 2.0 lane. That is the most significant change.

The Rock PI 5 from Radxa its interesting because it has a 4xPCIE 3.0 M.2 slot and some people already managed to get GPUs working under Linux. This is a good thing because the PCI-E implementation seems to be standart. (The RPI4 cant use a dGPU because of this).

Windows ARM is not yet a thing on the RK3588, but some WOR members are working on it and had some success.

Once its fully working will be interesting because Nvidia has Windows ARM drivers, just no public.

 

[Shivansps]

Is there that much difference overall between the 5 and 5 Plus?
Also how much additional hardware needs each of those two to shine?
Will be my first single board and I still don't know my use case so sorry for stupid question

yeah, it depends on what you are planing to do with it.

Orange PI 5A
-RK3588S
-Gigabit ethernet
-M.2 NVME x1 2.0
-Single HDMI output.
-Up to 16GB ram options

Orange PI 5B
-RK3588S
-Gigabit ethernet
-Built-in WIFI 6 and BT 5.0
-Built-in eMMC up to 256GB options
-Single HDMI output.
-Up to 32GB ram options (i think 32GB version is LPDDR5 instead of LPDDR4/4X)

Orange PI 5 Plus
-RK3588
-Dual 2.5G ethernet
-M.2 NVME x4 3.0
-M.2 E-Key for WIFI cards (pcie x1 2.0)
-Dual HDMI output
-HDMI input up to 4K@60fps
-eMMC module slot
-Up to 16GB ram options
-IR reciever

RK3588 and RK3588S performance is identical, the main difference is the I/O support, as you can see the Plus board has a lot more and better I/O.

 

[mTozz]

yeah, it depends on what you are planing to do with it.

Orange PI 5A
-RK3588S
-Gigabit ethernet
-M.2 NVME x1 2.0
-Single HDMI output.
-Up to 16GB ram options

Orange PI 5B
-RK3588S
-Gigabit ethernet
-Built-in WIFI 6 and BT 5.0
-Built-in eMMC up to 256GB options
-Single HDMI output.
-Up to 32GB ram options (i think 32GB version is LPDDR5 instead of LPDDR4/4X)

Orange PI 5 Plus
-RK3588
-Dual 2.5G ethernet
-M.2 NVME x4 3.0
-M.2 E-Key for WIFI cards (pcie x1 2.0)
-Dual HDMI output
-HDMI input up to 4K@60fps
-eMMC module slot
-Up to 16GB ram options
-IR reciever

RK3588 and RK3588S performance is identical, the main difference is the I/O support, as you can see the Plus board has a lot more and better I/O.

What could be a good SSD for the 5 plus?

 

[Shivansps]

 

[Shivansps]

Ive finally managed to run the current version of FSO on panfork, after having to compile my own version of panfork to workaround a mesa bug by disabling one shader optimization.

Looks like Vega 3 level to me, let see what the Panthor driver can do once it is available.

 

[Shivansps]

Radxa is launching two versions of the 5C one with the RK3582 and other with the RK3588S2

Announcing the ROCK 5C: Power, Performance, and Versatility for Just $30

Dear Community, We are excited to announce the launch of the ROCK 5C and ROCK 5C Lite, groundbreaking additions to the world of single board computers (SBCs). These boards bring the high-end ARM Cortex-A76 architecture into the $35 SBC market, offering unprecedented performance and features at...

forum.radxa.com

It looks like with the RK3582 Rockchip is selling lootboxes

 

[DrMrLordX]

@Shivansps

Reminds me of the old AMD unlockable X2 and X3 chips.

 

[Shivansps]

@Shivansps

Reminds me of the old AMD unlockable X2 and X3 chips.

In a way yeah, here Rockchip is just selling untested hardware that may or may not work, on top of dumping hardware with failures on it.
And honestely its not too bad really, the A76 cores in the $30-$35 area is new. The RK3582 will be great for routers/ap/nas/jellyfin boxes (if you got a full working encoders/decoders, thats something that they do not know either).