Originally posted by: Taggart
If humans can beat a Terminator, a Predator can definetely beat a Terminator.
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
A shotgun cannot blow a CLEAN 14" hole into the chest of a man that size and sear the exposed flesh closed. A shotgun can blow a tree in half if it's the right guage (slugs?) and close. The predator can do that from hundreds of yards away.
thats only worse, that just goes out to show how inaccurate that shoulder cannon is. another thing is t-101 is a pure machine without emotions while detective john kimball managed to piss a predator off enough to lead him to the trap; in gambling and fights, emotions are a definitely a minus.Hard to tell, but I feel the need to correct a misconception that's been made several times in this thread.
When the predator shot Danny Glover in Predator II, it wasn't with the shoulder cannon, he fired several shots with it, but none hit Danny, the one that did hit Danny was a projectile that was fired from his forearm(same kind as the one Danny Boy found in the apartment where the Jamaicans were killed by the predator perhaps?).
That's also the reason he ran, and didn't kill people, he was ordered... I would assume he wouldn't be under the control of a human, an would act more like he did in T1.Arnold ran from the t-1000 and the t-x. The only reason he got into fights with things that he felt totally outclassed him was because he was ordered to do so basically.
True.He was pretty sneaky with his box of roses shotgun and his voice mimicing...he even defeated the t-1000 in a battle of wits when he tricked him into lying about the dogs name in T2. I think the terminator is capable of more tricks than we give him credit for.
Again, true, but there is no compairson against the hyper alloy. And didn't the gun get quite mangled and was useless after the shot? Just because it didn't hit the person, doesn't mean it didn't penetrate the metal, all depends on the angle. I think it would at the very least damage it, and multiple shots to the same place couldn't feel good. If he was disarmed, the predator would have all day. If the shoulder canon didn't work, he'd have to get creative.Jesse Ventura is made of flesh, and a tree is made out of wood. A regular old shotgun would have done the same thing.
Night vision isn't heat vision. How he shot through smoke wasn't explained, wouldn't that take x-ray or uber-radar of sorts? Even thermal vision wouldn't penetrate smoke.Arnold drove a car in the middle of night with no headlights saying "I can see everything". He has no trouble seeing at night. He also fired clear knee cap shots in a room filled with tear gas.
He noticed it none the less... Come on, the terminator was caught in that machine press in T1, who didn't see THAT coming!!!Please, the old log trap? who wouldn't have seen that coming?
If he can hit the gun, he can hit the goggles.Ifwhy would the t-101 not have some infrared goggles to see the predator
Predator isn't dependant on 1 vision type, he had several spectrums to go through in P2, that scene where the gov't 'traps' the predator in the warehouse and thinks they got him figured out... He switches visual modes and has them for breakfast.burn his own skin off so he became invisible to the heat vision?
Why would he drop his gun? It's not like the terminator unarmed is weak like a human.1. Predator disarms the terminator's weapons. Predator drops his guns
Originally posted by: preslove
The Predator because he is cooler and sneekier.
Originally posted by: BladeWalker
I venture that most Predators cannot win against a Terminator. A few stronger, more mature hunters can. Predators, just like humans, vary in abilities.
BTW, a single Alien vs Predator stands no chance. Those Aliens will have to rely on numbers vs a Predator. If they make it otherwise it would be inconsitent with the Dark Horse comics. An Alien queen is another matter altogether.
Robocop loses against any of them. He'd have to eventually come back down to fight the Aliens (they wouldn't just sit and get shot at), at which point he'd die.Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
ok, now how about Alien vs Robocop
alien wins hands down since its acidic blood would melt right thru murphy. unless robocop has his jetpack...
Originally posted by: Triumph
Human Arnold beat the Predator.
Machine Arnold would have no trouble at all.
Originally posted by: Horus
Heh.
The Governator would kill Predator. He's a cold, killing piece of metal. Remember in Predator 1 when Arnie gets covered in mud and Predator can't see him?
There we go. Pred would look REAALLL close at Arnie, then would have his throat yanked out.
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: PowderBB3D
Originally posted by: Excelsior
This is a joke right?
Off topic. Why not?
No. It is a joke that this is even being asked. Terminator would absolutely destroy The Predator.
Nightvision is InfraRed. Your are confusing thermal imaging and infrared. There is more than one frequency for infrared. Nightvision uses the heat given off by the landscape and whatever living thing is there. CSM-101 Ternimator can do both infrared nightvision and thermal imaging. Re-watch the first movie. To more fully answer your question: different gases have different densities and are affected by different wavelengths of light. The obvious answer is that at some frequency the tear-gas goes invisible.Originally posted by: Phoenix86
That's also the reason he ran, and didn't kill people, he was ordered... I would assume he wouldn't be under the control of a human, an would act more like he did in T1.Arnold ran from the t-1000 and the t-x. The only reason he got into fights with things that he felt totally outclassed him was because he was ordered to do so basically.
True.He was pretty sneaky with his box of roses shotgun and his voice mimicing...he even defeated the t-1000 in a battle of wits when he tricked him into lying about the dogs name in T2. I think the terminator is capable of more tricks than we give him credit for.
Again, true, but there is no compairson against the hyper alloy. And didn't the gun get quite mangled and was useless after the shot? Just because it didn't hit the person, doesn't mean it didn't penetrate the metal, all depends on the angle. I think it would at the very least damage it, and multiple shots to the same place couldn't feel good. If he was disarmed, the predator would have all day. If the shoulder canon didn't work, he'd have to get creative.Jesse Ventura is made of flesh, and a tree is made out of wood. A regular old shotgun would have done the same thing.
Night vision isn't heat vision. How he shot through smoke wasn't explained, wouldn't that take x-ray or uber-radar of sorts? Even thermal vision wouldn't penetrate smoke.Arnold drove a car in the middle of night with no headlights saying "I can see everything". He has no trouble seeing at night. He also fired clear knee cap shots in a room filled with tear gas.
He noticed it none the less... Come on, the terminator was caught in that machine press in T1, who didn't see THAT coming!!!Please, the old log trap? who wouldn't have seen that coming?
If he can hit the gun, he can hit the goggles.Ifwhy would the t-101 not have some infrared goggles to see the predator
Predator isn't dependant on 1 vision type, he had several spectrums to go through in P2, that scene where the gov't 'traps' the predator in the warehouse and thinks they got him figured out... He switches visual modes and has them for breakfast.burn his own skin off so he became invisible to the heat vision?
Why would he drop his gun? It's not like the terminator unarmed is weak like a human.1. Predator disarms the terminator's weapons. Predator drops his guns
HAHAHA, this could go on forever!!!
T-101 was the "Arnold" terminator. Just a fancy robot with some skin and tissue over it. T-1000 was the terminator from T2. It was intelligent liquid metal that could morph into anything "simple." (ie: no guns or bombs, just knives and such)Originally posted by: ikickpigeons
Ok im a lazy f*ck and i dont want to read through all this stuff and im asking you people to enlighten me with all this terminater stuff. As you probably know i only saw the first terminator with Arnold. To make it easier i will list my n0bbish questions.
1) whats T-101? or T-1000? is their a difference?
See above. T3 had new terminator that looked kinda like the arnold version. That is, it was a robot with some skin over it, but it seems as if it could reconfigure itself as needed. It *could* turn it's arm into a gun. Plus, it was a rather hot-looking female.2)In the three terminator movies there was the first one with Arnold, then the second one had a cop terminator that could morph or something ( didnt watch the whole movie), then T3 and no idea what it was. PLease explain.
Predators are hunters. They like to hunt things. Some came to earth on a hunting trip, much like people go to Alaska or someplace to hunt elk or what have you. AvP shows us that they also like to hunt Aliens. (The second Predator movie showed the trophy room in the Pred ship and we saw a glimpse of an Alien skull and thus AvP was born.)3) I saw the trailer for Alien VS Predator so i have an idea what the predato looks like but in the movies what did the predator do? go donw to earth and fight us?
I am lazy like you, so I'm not going to bother to check any of my "facts" or provide any links.4) If your lazy like me and dont want to answer these questions then post a lnk where i could learn myself.
Originally posted by: jagec
It's T-1000 you tools
If Arnold could take the Predator out WITHOUT being the Terminator, he could certainly take it out when he gets to be the Terminator.
Originally posted by: 'BARtMAN'
1. Terminator realizes that the predator is not John Conner, nor is it human or a match fit for taking it's clothes, or vehicle(pred would be on foot anyhow). It wasn't programmed to use it's weapons, nor utilize it's other technologies. Does not raise his weapon, shrugs it off, goes and runs for governor of California.
Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
A shotgun cannot blow a CLEAN 14" hole into the chest of a man that size and sear the exposed flesh closed. A shotgun can blow a tree in half if it's the right guage (slugs?) and close. The predator can do that from hundreds of yards away.
The fact remains, that gun just ain't good enough to seriously hurt the terminator. If it had proven itself to be able to shoot through metal, you could argue it was...but as it stands in the move the laser was unable to shoot through a regular old gun, much less a hyper alloy combat chassis.