A true centrist party would be to the left of the current Democratic Party.
A true centrist party would be to the left of the current Democratic Party.The reality is, both the Democrats and Republicans have shifted so far in their respective directions relative to center they they have both become memes. In no realistic world was Biden, who could only rarely speak an entire sentence at the end of his term without obvious signs of dimentia, which was ignored by his party until it became impossible, who allowed the Mexico border crisis to become so bad they they resorted to waiving 26 federal laws to RESUME the construction of Trumps border wall, a good centrist president. He skirted by on the minimum on some issues, like foreign policy, but failed miserably on domestic policies. His party then turned on him at the end and "installed" a very unpopular presidential candidate that bypassed all the democratic primaries. Shameful. That is the Democratic party of today, trying their best to alienate centrists and look for innovative ways to make itself irrelevant.
Trump is largely ignorant, unhinged, and shows terrible, downright horrible judgement on foreign policy, but he has seized onto stopping illegal entry and residence in the country, which needs to be done, but he is going about it, in many cases, in inhumane ways. Trump is unhinged, but not senile. Hes essentially the antithesis of Biden. His party, the Republicans, have gone so far to the right, that they outwardly appear to think that he can do no wrong, and that what is being done is completely normal and not extremely embarassing for the entire nation. Their refusal to question their god-king is extremely disturbing. Israel is pounding Gaza into dust, and Trump has publicly humiliated the president of Ukraine, who is fighting a brutal invasion of his country, while walking on egg shells to avoid publicly criticizing Putin. The Republican party has largely become Christo-fascist, which ironically, is very un-Christlike.
Im fed up with both parties and really think the US needs a true centrist party. I dont know what it would take for that to happen, but its very clear our current two party system is becoming untenable.
This is exactly what Im saying. It may sound cliche, but both parties are an embarassment, and largely ignorant of reality in many ways, instead preferring to cling to extreme ideologies of their own persuasions.As long as Dems are polling in the 20s, it doesn't fucking matter.
You people still don't get it, even after 10 years.
Thats hilarious. You are joking, I hope.A true centrist party would be to the left of the current Democratic Party.
The reality is, both the Democrats and Republicans have shifted so far in their respective directions relative to center they they have both become memes.
Amazingly, MTG put out a long rambling Twitter post last night seemingly opposing the admins unflinching support of Israel in its quest to annihilate Gaza and draw Iran into war, while at the same time oppose continued military weapons support for Ukraine. Its still very unhinged, (obviously as she is ultra-ignorant of reality on so many levels) but the fact that she is apparently starting to question the admin on some things is a positive development.Trump approval is tanking here in Michigan oblast.
The Trump voters I talk to have gone silent lately. A month ago they were cheerfully discussing the conquest of Greenland and Canada.
Amazingly, MTG put out a long rambling Twitter post last night seemingly opposing the admins unflinching support of Israel in its quest to annihilate Gaza and draw Iran into war, while at the same time oppose continued military weapons support for Ukraine. Its still very unhinged, (obviously as she is ultra-ignorant of reality on so many levels) but the fact that she is apparently starting to question the admin on some things is a positive development.
US President Donald Trump's tariff campaign has focused minds in other countries on how to respond, and increased the impetus to strike trade deals.
Its not nonsense. Democrats openly ignore and oppose laws on the books, and have allowed and in fact encouraged millions of illegal immigrants to enter and reside in the country in the last 16+ years, all while kicking the unsustainable national debt can down the road without meaningfully engaging in trying to curb it. The explicit softening on criminal justice and policing has given rise to unheard of crime and violence in many areas of the country that used to be relatively peaceful. Other areas of complete failure are allowing far too many frivalous lawsuits against motor vehicle insurance, medical, and industrial entities and companies, which have driven up the cost of insurance and especially medical care by astronomical amounts. Add to this their high profile pandering to non-sensical issues such as the transgender controversies, etc., these are many reasons why they have become irrelevant. To pretend all these things are honkey-dory is to be ignorant of the situation on the ground in the US.This is nonsense. It only makes sense if you define center as midpoint between fascist authoritarian GOP and where the Democrats are.
The US Democrats in the rest of western world, wouldn't be a Center party, not because they are too far left, but because they are Right of Center.
The real problem is that both parties are corporatist parties. With unlimited funding by corporations, citizens don't stand a chance of having laws in their favor.
Now with open bribery, Trump/Musk are dismantling every system meant to protect citizens from corporate malfeasance.
Its not nonsense. Democrats openly ignore and oppose laws on the books, and have allowed and in fact encouraged millions of illegal immigrants to enter and reside in the country in the last 16+ years, all while kicking the unsustainable national debt can down the road without meaningfully engaging in trying to curb it. The explicit softening on criminal justice and policing has given rise to unheard of crime and violence in many areas of the country that used to be relatively peaceful. Other areas of complete failure are allowing far too many frivalous lawsuits against motor vehicle insurance, medical, and industrial entities and companies, which have driven up the cost of insurance and especially medical care by astronomical amounts. Add to this their high profile pandering to non-sensical issues such as the transgender controversies, etc., these are many reasons why they have become irrelevant. To pretend all these things are beloved patriot-dory is to be ignorant of the situation on the ground in the US.
You act as if Europe doesnt have its own extreme social, economic, and military problems, which is actual nonsense.
Its not nonsense. Democrats openly ignore and oppose laws on the books, and have allowed and in fact encouraged millions of illegal immigrants to enter and reside in the country in the last 16+ years, all while kicking the unsustainable national debt can down the road without engaging in trying to curb it. The explicit softening on criminal justice and policing has given rise to unheard of crime and violence in many areas of the country that used to be relatively peaceful.
Other areas of complete failure are allowing far too many frivalous lawsuits against motor vehicle insurance, medical, and industrial entities and companies, which have driven up the cost of insurance and especially medical care by astronomical amounts.
Add to this their high profile pandering to non-sensical issues such as the transgender controversies, etc., these are many reasons why they have become irrelevant. To pretend all these things are beloved patriot-dory is to be ignorant of the situation on the ground in the US.
That type of thinking is why there are only extreme left and extreme right parties in the US. You cant admit the errors of your chosen party. Because you cant do that, things that need to improve will never improve. You will only have this see-saw between extremes on each side.
That’s some great nonsense right there
That type of thinking is why there are only extreme left and extreme right parties in the US. You cant admit the errors of your chosen party. Because you cant do that, things that need to improve will never improve. You will only have this see-saw between extremes on each side.
This type of most makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously. If you look at the current Democratic party as "extreme left".That type of thinking is why there are only extreme left and extreme right parties in the US. You cant admit the errors of your chosen party. Because you cant do that, things that need to improve will never improve. You will only have this see-saw between extremes on each side.
To the right. They've shifted to the right. Democrats and Republicans have shifted to the right of the political spectrum. Very far to the right. The right.in their respective directions
Your Fox News (Minitrue) viewership is noted.
You mean he didn't build Trumps wall. What a leftist.
You are living in the 1940s brother. Unions have gone from what was once a necessity, to now an unnecessary obstacle leeching the lifeblood of many a corporation that provides jobs to many people. I know this first-hand as a former president of a union local in the industrial/chemical sector. Things are out of balance in favor of the unions in many sectors now, and its apparent even to outsiders.USA was a borderline corporatocracy even under the Democrats, and your complaint, is that he failed to stop citizens from waging mismatched David vs Goliath legal against corporate malfeasance??
You must be happy that with Trump/Musk there will soon be zero protection for citizens. I guess this is what is needed to redress the power imbalance your average citizen has over defenseless corporations.
This stuff was only made high profile by the right wing to stir up anger and hatred, against a minority groups and keep the base angry and unthinking.
You are an evident product of their success.
If you aren’t going to be informed/serious about the topic there’s no reason for me too.That type of thinking is why there are only extreme left and extreme right parties in the US. You cant admit the errors of your chosen party. Because you cant do that, things that need to improve will never improve. You will only have this see-saw between extremes on each side.
Prove it then. Take the 3 main criticisms I listed and address them. Then, list your 3 main criticisms of the party. All you are doing now is insults and namecalling. Typical of a non-critical thinker.This type of most makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously. If you look at the current Democratic party as "extreme left".
Fucking pants on stupid.
You have any substance to add rather than vague insults? Im telling you Im deadly serious. Address my points individually without insults, or you prove that you are nothing but a party loyal lemming.If you aren’t going to be informed/serious about the topic there’s no reason for me too.
What was made up? Transgender controversies, like the drag-queen library storytime day that was scheduled, then cancelled due to public outcry, less than 40 miles from the extremely rural area where I live? It was hugely publicized locally, and for good reason, it was ill conceived and a bad idea. That was certainly not made up.
This falls apart when you dont have to define "left".We have so many people brainwashed into thinking the dems are extreme left.. they don't even do any actual research and just believe tweets/ podcasts.
The last time the dems were truly left was before JFK.. JFK moved em right of Center and that was before I was alive. Ever since then it has been a steady march to the right.
The issue is a lot of the 'points' you are bringing up are untrue or wild partisan exaggerations.You have any substance to add rather than vague insults? Im telling you Im deadly serious. Address my points individually without insults, or you prove that you are nothing but a party loyal lemming.
So your criticisms are:Prove it then. Take the 3 main criticisms I listed and address them. Then, list your 3 main criticisms of the party. All you are doing now is insults and namecalling. Typical of a non-critical thinker.