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Massive GN video on the absolute train wreck Tariffs are for American companies:
It's far worse than most people could imagine.
Let me save many of you the trouble of the predictable quip you will pat yourself on the back for: "NVidia already ruined affordable computing".
This is serious adult shit, and it affects everything, not just computers.
I would think China understands that at this point they can't let Trump save too much face, they got to keep the screws in there for a little bit longer. They are too smart not to realize this. It should be interesting how this plays out.
Yup, I'm pretty sure they can weather the pressure much better than he can, so they're going to wait until he comes with his hat in the hand making US the beggars to China. Because what allies do US have to fight a trade war against China?...Russia?China is not going to do anything, just let Trump keep wrecking everything.
Maybe, but I tend to doubt it. I think the primary problem here is a total loss of credibility for the US. There's no point in making substantial concessions to Trump that you actually plan on following through on because there is no reason to expect the US will abide by your agreement.Funny thing is, a non-retarded tariff amount, say 15%-25% would have been much easier to hold over a long term and possibly even have more desired effect than the imbecillic 145%+ tariffs that he put on.
Maybe, but I tend to doubt it. I think the primary problem here is a total loss of credibility for the US. There's no point in making substantial concessions to Trump that you actually plan on following through on because there is no reason to expect the US will abide by your agreement.
China's playbook from Trump I is probably the best bet for people here. Make a deal with Trump that he can brag about and then just ignore it and don't do any of the things you promised.
A post-Trump United States can only be trustworthy for four years.I agree..
Basically just like google search.. the US had a default setting.. in economic trade and deals..
But Trump basically said fuck off and go use someone else.
Now everyone is basically not willing to trust the US again.. especially not under Trump.
Now everyone is basically not willing to trust the US again.. especially not under Trump.
A post-Trump United States can only be trustworthy for four years.
That is not enough. It may begin to thaw relations, but it will NEVER go back to what it was.
MAGA would need to cease to exist for us to stand a chance in the world again.
And the longer it takes us to... move past them, the more the world will forget they could ever trust us.
Someday it will not even be an option, as there will be no one left who remembers the good times.
After he lost to Biden I laughed when MAGAts would say Trump would win again, but after 2024 I don't dare laugh anymore. They're claiming now Vance will be president in 2028, as much as that sounds impossible and I want to laugh. I was certain there was no way Trump would win in 2024. So the US might stay MAGA for a long time. I don't think Vance would be any better than Diaper Don.
After he lost to Biden I laughed when MAGAts would say Trump would win again, but after 2024 I don't dare laugh anymore. They're claiming now Vance will be president in 2028, as much as that sounds impossible and I want to laugh. I was certain there was no way Trump would win in 2024. So the US might stay MAGA for a long time. I don't think Vance would be any better than Diaper Don.
The assault on voting rights has already begun, between the SAVE Act and attempting to restrict mail-in voting. And it's been mere months.They clearly have ZERO respect for the rule of law, or the constitution, or any other impediment to their power.
I doubt there will be fair midterms, let alone fair elections by 2028.
Maybe, but I tend to doubt it. I think the primary problem here is a total loss of credibility for the US. There's no point in making substantial concessions to Trump that you actually plan on following through on because there is no reason to expect the US will abide by your agreement.
China's playbook from Trump I is probably the best bet for people here. Make a deal with Trump that he can brag about and then just ignore it and don't do any of the things you promised.
Of course there would be a loss of credibility.If a reasonable tariff was put on from the start, and without the insulting rhetoric, there would be no loss of credibility. Actual meaningful negotiations could have taken place. There is a problem with Chinas trade practices, its not something Trump just made up on his own. Actual credible economists admit it. The problem is, childish insults and retarded attempts to bully only sometimes work on smaller kids in the schoolyard, not one of the oldest, most populous, and most powerful countries in the world.
What trade treaty do we have with China?Of course there would be a loss of credibility.
The US is party to trade treaties and the WTO. This is not how any of this works.
Lots of them but let’s just take the one Trump signed, lol.What trade treaty do we have with China?
Ricockulous. Socialism is about owning your own labor.Trump is going to be known as our first socialist president.
He will bring equality to the masses, unfortunately they will all be equally poor.
Massive GN video on the absolute train wreck Tariffs are for American companies:
It's far worse than most people could imagine.
Let me save many of you the trouble of the predictable quip you will pat yourself on the back for: "NVidia already ruined affordable computing".
This is serious adult shit, and it affects everything, not just computers.
We're talking Americans who have been brainwashed by grifters like Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Sean Hannity and the like for thirty years as news radio and cable news were turned into nazi propaganda. If you have never listened to this bullshit it's all designed to fan flames of anger by taking corner cases and hyping them to main narratives. An illegal murders an American and it's all they want to talk about. A Trump fan goes and shoots up a high school full of Jewish kids and no that's not really newsworthy, it's just a kid with a mental health problem and of course they avoid talking about their homegrown stochastic terrorism. I can see why it's extremely effective at radicalizing their base though. Their listeners didn't start out nazis, they were molded into them. It's sad but I have watched my dad get transformed from a pro labor Democrat in the early 1990s into a nazi cheering for Trump sending good people away to the El Salvadoran death camp all because he needs having background noise at work. It happened within 5 years of San Antonio's former news radio station WOAI turning into nazi propaganda in the mid 1990s.I still cannot fathom, even after a decade, how an average American adult human being could listen to or read a word that comes out of Trump and think, “Yep. There is a smart guy who’s on top of his economic game for America and Americans. That’s my man!”
And here we are. There is class warfare and as Warren Buffet explained in an interview written by Ben Sten (yes the conservative actor) it is the Wealthy Class in America waging it and winning against the non-wealthy in America.
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The Republicans made you think taxes are all evil and democrats made you believe you can tax only the ultra rich.
And here we are. There is class warfare and as Warren Buffet explained in an interview written by Ben Sten (yes the conservative actor) it is the Wealthy Class in America waging it and winning against the non-wealthy in America.
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Basically this. America wouldn't be in its current predicament if taxes stayed high and wages better tracked productivity.The Republicans made you think taxes are all evil and democrats made you believe you can tax only the ultra rich.
Everyone needs to be taxed and the government needs to spend the money in improving infrastructure, education, Healthcare etc. for everyone.
Because higher taxes leads to less consumption of goods, which leads to a better trade balance with foreign nations. You've been told that being able to buy Chinese goods cheaply is better than paying tax to improve your society collectively. And here we are....