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K1052

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Ukraine was never allowed to join. That would make Russia vulnerable to invasion from their perspective. It would comparable to Russia putting nukes in Cuba.

Ultimately the flaw in this thinking is the concept that anybody anywhere WANTS to suddenly own a bunch of Russia and the Russians within it. It's like breaking into the sewage plant. The country is a dump and filled with the most miserable people on the face of the earth.
 
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Fenixgoon

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That is just so fucking stupid…

Oh we will take over Ukraine because we don’t want a nato nation next to us

If they took over Ukraine that would put a nato nation right on their border

Seriously get a fucking clue one of these days
They already have a NATO country on their border - Finland!
 

Jaskalas

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Ultimately the flaw in this thinking is the concept that anybody anywhere WANTS to suddenly own a bunch of Russia and the Russians within it. It's like breaking into the sewage plant. The country is a dump and filled with the most miserable people on the face of the earth.
And with Tariff policy, Americans aim to join the sewage.
 

fskimospy

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Hell no. Russia will irradiate the planet before they let that happen.
lol no they won't. Russian nuclear threats are entirely toothless and should be ignored. The only way they are using nuclear weapons is in the case of national survival and no, this does not come even close to that.

The invasion of Ukraine is not about Russia's national security and never was.
 

FelixDeCat

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lol no they won't. Russian nuclear threats are entirely toothless and should be ignored. The only way they are using nuclear weapons is in the case of national survival and no, this does not come even close to that.

The invasion of Ukraine is not about Russia's national security and never was.
Sigh...

You are obviously not a learned historical scholar.

Russia does not even acknowledge the existence of Ukraine but sees it as a breakaway province as Taiwan is to China.
 

fskimospy

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Sigh...

You are obviously not a learned historical scholar.

Russia does not even acknowledge the existence of Ukraine but sees it as a breakaway province as Taiwan is to China.
Sigh, indeed, lol. I think you need to learn your history.

Not only does Russia acknowledge the existence of Ukraine (this is formally recognized by Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.) In addition even when it was part of the Soviet Union it was presented as a separate country - for example Ukraine had its own separate seat as an independent nation at the UN while it was part of the Soviet Union.

Gotta go crack those history books, man.
 
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outriding

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Sigh, indeed, lol. I think you need to learn your history.

Not only does Russia acknowledge the existence of Ukraine (this is formally recognized by Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.) In addition even when it was part of the Soviet Union it was presented as a separate country - for example Ukraine had its own separate seat as an independent nation at the UN while it was part of the Soviet Union.

Gotta go crack those history books, man.


History books. Really. They are just an opinion
 
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K1052

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History books. Really. They are just an opinion

And so here is a three hour presentation from Vladimir Putin personally to explain why Ukraine is not a country. The gentlemen with the Makarovs would also like you to remain seated and alert for its entirety.

First we start with the earth forming several billion years ago...
 

Iron Woode

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On a lighter note:

Burlington, Vermont is renaming a pedestrian street Canada Street from now until Labor Day.


A popular pedestrian-only street in downtown Burlington, Vt., will temporarily be known as “Canada Street” this summer, in a symbolic move city councillors say is meant to show solidarity with Canada amid growing political and economic tensions.

The Burlington City Council voted unanimously this week to rename Church Street, the downtown retail hub, to Canada Street, or Rue du Canada in French, until Labour Day. Councillors cited concerns about strained U.S.-Canada relations, declining tourism and frustrations with the U.S. government’s stance toward its northern neighbour.

“We have been fed up with Donald Trump’s damaging and insulting rhetoric towards Canada,” said Burlington Ward 6 Councillor Becca Brown McKnight, who led the initiative, in an interview with CTV News Channel Wednesday.

“Renaming a street is something quick and easy for us to do, but also sends a message that we are in this fight with you,” she said, adding they’re committed to maintaining their long-standing historic relationship with Canadians.

According to McKnight, Burlington typically sees more than 750,000 Canadian tourists each year — more than its own population — and cross-border visits have dropped between 30 to 40 per cent compared to last year.

She says the street in question generates roughly 15 per cent of its annual retail revenue from Canadian visitors.

“Businesses are seeing a decline. We’re hearing from our Canadian friends that they’re afraid to cross the border. This is our way of saying: we see you, we’re with you,” McKnight said.

The city will spend about US$3,000 on signage and Canada-themed celebrations, but no permanent changes are planned.

Meanwhile, some Canadian cities are weighing symbolic gestures of their own.

Mississauga, Ont. removed all American flags from several public locations in March, ordering oversized Canadian flags to be installed on all flagpoles at City Hall. The city council in New Westminster, B.C. also voted to take down the American flag inside the Queen’s Park Arena in May.

In Ottawa, calls have resurfaced to rename Trump Avenue in the Central Park neighbourhood. The street was originally named in the 1990s after Donald Trump’s real estate empire, long before his U.S. presidency.
 
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