Neat interactive website:
These minerals, including cobalt, nickel, lithium and manganese, are finite resources. And mining and processing them can be harmful for workers, their communities and the local environment.
Looks like a bit of a hit piece.
They're also recyclable resources and replaceable resources. Of those four minerals, only one is needed in an LFP battery, and at most one (manganese) in a sodium-ion battery.
My main concern with EVs, and even newer gas cars, is the planned obsolescence. So much stuff relying on cloud, phone apps, and even subscriptions for basic things to work like heated seats or even remote start. If they decide to pull the app off the play/apple store because they switched to something else 10 years down the line, then when you get a new phone you basically lose a lot of the car's functionality or perhaps even ability to use it completely. Or if they take down the cloud servers, or unilaterally decide they don't want to support older models etc... just so many things that could happen to turn it into a paperweight. You have to rely on them not doing any of this stuff. At least with older cars everything is local and not relying on proprietary software being installed on any separate device like your phone.
Then there is the fact that nobody wants to work on EVs, so if you have any issue related to the battery, even something like a coolant line, you have to bring it to the dealer and they'll just want to replace the entire battery instead of servicing it. Even body work, lot of shops won't touch EVs. To own an EV you more or less need to be mechanically inclined but also good at electronics, so you can work on it yourself. And also have a shop with the appropriate lifts etc. There are some 3rd party shops that will work on EVs but they are rare.
From an environmental standpoint EVs break even after a year or so but financially, you need to keep it for about 30 years. At least that's how it worked out when I did the math on replacing my gas F150 with the F150 Lightning. Needless to say I'm better off sticking to gas vehicles myself. I suppose financially EVs do make sense for people that put lot of miles like delivery drivers.
Yeah the tracking is a huge issue too. I hate the idea of my own tech being used against me and exploiting my privacy. It's why I run a custom rom on my phone. The stock OSes are horrible for tracking you. So is Windows, which is why I run Linux.
My main concern with EVs, and even newer gas cars, is the planned obsolescence. So much stuff relying on cloud, phone apps, and even subscriptions for basic things to work like heated seats or even remote start. If they decide to pull the app off the play/apple store because they switched to something else 10 years down the line, then when you get a new phone you basically lose a lot of the car's functionality or perhaps even ability to use it completely. Or if they take down the cloud servers, or unilaterally decide they don't want to support older models etc... just so many things that could happen to turn it into a paperweight. You have to rely on them not doing any of this stuff. At least with older cars everything is local and not relying on proprietary software being installed on any separate device like your phone.
Then there is the fact that nobody wants to work on EVs, so if you have any issue related to the battery, even something like a coolant line, you have to bring it to the dealer and they'll just want to replace the entire battery instead of servicing it. Even body work, lot of shops won't touch EVs. To own an EV you more or less need to be mechanically inclined but also good at electronics, so you can work on it yourself. And also have a shop with the appropriate lifts etc. There are some 3rd party shops that will work on EVs but they are rare.
From an environmental standpoint EVs break even after a year or so but financially, you need to keep it for about 30 years. At least that's how it worked out when I did the math on replacing my gas F150 with the F150 Lightning. Needless to say I'm better off sticking to gas vehicles myself. I suppose financially EVs do make sense for people that put lot of miles like delivery drivers.
On my Windows computer, I have Malwarebytes, uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, etc. among other things. Facebook STILL manages to give me targeted ads & articles despite MASSIVE layers of privacy protection. It's almost pointless at this point because they have eyes everywhere!
On the flip side, I've made some really nice purchases thanks to TikTok advertising suggestions LOL.
At some point the cloud hardware in the vehicle will stop working because the cell connectivity will stop. Already older cars that used 2G and 3G, eventually lost access as carriers stopped supporting that. Most EV's have 8-year 100k warranties on the batteries themselves. As far as 3rd party shops that work on EV drive trains they are becoming less and less rare as the demand increases. As far as the ROI on EV's, if you are in the market for a new car then the ROI is fairly good if you planned on buying a new car anyway.
Yeah that's a serious issue too, when they shut down legacy cell networks lot of cars will be unusable due to how reliant they are on cloud now. Hopefully the hacking community will get together to bypass all this stuff and sell 3rd party parts to make the car work without cloud. Not sure how extensive the electronics are, it might be quite involved if there are encrypted channels between every component like the inverter, motor etc then it would be a pretty hard thing to crack. But if it's all in the infotainment system or other type of computer box like an ECU or something and everything is all relays then it's just the thing of changing out that box.
Tesla have 2 types of connectivity. Standard and Premium. Standard (which is free) only lasts for 8 years for any car bought after 7/20/22. They are extremely vague about what happens after it expires.How are they that reliant on the cloud? If you rent a Tesla from Hertz it doesn't have premium connectivity. Drives just fine without cloud access all the time.
Tesla have 2 types of connectivity. Standard and Premium. Standard (which is free) only lasts for 8 years for any car bought after 7/20/22. They are extremely vague about what happens after it expires.
"Without Standard Connectivity, access to some connectivity features, including those that use cellular data or third-party licenses, may be changed or removed. These Standard Connectivity features that may change currently include maps, navigation, voice commands and more."
Connectivity | Tesla Support
Connectivity is an important part of all Tesla vehicles, further enhancing the driving experience by providing access to features that require data usage. Find out more about Standard and Premium Connectivity.www.tesla.com
Guessing you just lose navigation, but most likely they haven't actually decided what will happen yet as they have 7 more years to figure it out.
The 8 yr expiration for Standard connectivity applies to vehicles sold after July 20, 2022. As I said, you would probably just lose navigation, even then it might just be live traffic and map updates would stop working. Still usuable, but it makes that giant screen in the middle of the dash less useful.There is Model S's on the road that are over a decade old. Loss of cloud access doesn't make the car unusable.
The 8 yr expiration for Standard connectivity applies to vehicles sold after July 20, 2022. As I said, you would probably just lose navigation, even then it might just be live traffic and map updates would stop working. Still usuable, but it makes that giant screen in the middle of the dash less useful.
Planned obsolescence is basically necessary for a car industry to survive. Toyotas are the most reliable but they too inflict obsolescence on their customers with overly optimistic maintenance schedules. 5,000 mile dino oil change is overdoing it, the drag came along at about 4,000. Their coolant cannot last 100k, lost a radiator due to that, but at least it was an easy DIY replace.My main concern with EVs, and even newer gas cars, is the planned obsolescence. So much stuff relying on cloud, phone apps, and even subscriptions for basic things to work like heated seats or even remote start. If they decide to pull the app off the play/apple store because they switched to something else 10 years down the line, then when you get a new phone you basically lose a lot of the car's functionality or perhaps even ability to use it completely. Or if they take down the cloud servers, or unilaterally decide they don't want to support older models etc... just so many things that could happen to turn it into a paperweight. You have to rely on them not doing any of this stuff. At least with older cars everything is local and not relying on proprietary software being installed on any separate device like your phone.
Then there is the fact that nobody wants to work on EVs, so if you have any issue related to the battery, even something like a coolant line, you have to bring it to the dealer and they'll just want to replace the entire battery instead of servicing it. Even body work, lot of shops won't touch EVs. To own an EV you more or less need to be mechanically inclined but also good at electronics, so you can work on it yourself. And also have a shop with the appropriate lifts etc. There are some 3rd party shops that will work on EVs but they are rare.
From an environmental standpoint EVs break even after a year or so but financially, you need to keep it for about 30 years. At least that's how it worked out when I did the math on replacing my gas F150 with the F150 Lightning. Needless to say I'm better off sticking to gas vehicles myself. I suppose financially EVs do make sense for people that put lot of miles like delivery drivers.
Subaru Starlink used a 3G cellular network that was shut down so I brought my car in for a free hardware swap to 4G.At some point the cloud hardware in the vehicle will stop working because the cell connectivity will stop. Already older cars that used 2G and 3G, eventually lost access as carriers stopped supporting that. Most EV's have 8-year 100k warranties on the batteries themselves. As far as 3rd party shops that work on EV drive trains they are becoming less and less rare as the demand increases. As far as the ROI on EV's, if you are in the market for a new car then the ROI is fairly good if you planned on buying a new car anyway.
This is 100% true. You can easily turn it off in Tesla but it breaks so much that the actual system becomes useless. As I get older I have started to acquiesce to these types of privacy issues so that my car will automatically know where I am going when I enter and plot the best course or the climate control is already on when I get in. It’s a slippery slope but it’s also weighing risk versus reward.This is one of my concerns as well. Plus, the tracking. Your infotainment system tracks EVERYTHING:
Your car may be recording more data than you know
Information pulled from cars’ computers has been used to solve murders, and stalk exes.www.theverge.com
How Your Car Watches Everything You Do And Everywhere You Go
Whether it’s location data or how the driver is behaving, car networks are recording huge amounts of information. Should you be worried about the government or private companies grabbing it?www.forbes.com
Data: Your Car Records Everything, Now Cops Want That Video
Your Car Records Everything, and Now Cops Want That Video – should they be allowed access to it? Data privacy nuts, answer!cleantechnica.com
All about your car's hidden device that records all of your driving habits
All about your car's hidden device that records all of your driving habitswww.klkntv.com
Vehicle Infotainment Forensics: It’s About More Than Accidents | Envista Forensics
Hyper-connectivity is the future with connected vehicles, smart devices, wearable technology, and even entire smart cities. With new technologies developed for vehicle infotainment systems, digital forensic experts can access digital evidence from many of today's vehicles.www.envistaforensics.com
Cops Can Extract Data From 10,000 Different Car Models’ Infotainment Systems
As cybersecurity researchers detail a flaw that allowed them to unlock and start Honda and Nissan cars from anywhere in the world, border and immigration agencies are buying up tech to exploit weaknesses in vehicle security.www.forbes.com
It does blow my mind that California continues to give out billions in subsidies for people to buy cars from one of the richest companies in the world. This despite the fact that the owner moved his offices to Texas because he hates California.
Today, Little Rock had temperature of 114F.